moogsy Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 The rank hypocrisy of some on here is ******* unbelievable The suicide chat is brutal and think speculation should be knocked on the head, no matter how much of an arsehole he may be wouldn't wish that on any family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, haveyouheard 22 said: Why give valuable time to people who dont care if i die The smiths ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, benny said: A new low. You mean ratboy. yeah Ratboy even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Horrendous if the suicide thing is true. Sounds quite a mess all round given these rumours, wouldn't wish that on anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: So much self loathing, immaturity and issues of self worth in this post. Wishing ill on someone with real and serious issues. How bad must your life be? Cretinous stuff. Bit of a physchiatrist are we?along with your many other imagined talents,away and play with yourself dork with the mock outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Very well said mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Spot on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, El Diez said: The other stuff being that he had left a suicide note and had tried to kill himself when he was found in his car? That was the rumour I heard. Pipe from exhaust in the car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Great post mate and wholeheartedly agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Those 2 goals v engerland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Good post. Humanity is easy and people shouldn't find it too hard to search within themselves especially this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryJTlaw Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Great post, if you're less of an HMFC man then I'll join you. My opinion is its with his many familys and he cant choose which one to be with on xmas day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Although it contradicts my earlier posts, that is a great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Glad to see a certain post's been removed and that humanity's returned to the boards. Caring is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@VladMagic Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 There (for me is a line) and I'm all over the rip the pish out of a Hibee ***** whenever possible. Even of he's said or done something that pisses me off. Take Riordan for example. Complete tool. Scored some goals against us and I ****ing hate the wee rat. If however he was diagnosed with something inoperable god forbid the man in me would take over and I would wish him a speedy recovery. I think that's the difference between rivalry and hatred? The line with LG is I cant stand him and he's been a really nasty little shit both on and off the field as is documented. However he is just a man trying to earn a living on a football field like so many of our players. We have had many despised by Hibs over the years just as we despise LG. Honours even on that front. For every LG there's a Skacel. It's Christmas and I feel sorry for him. Nuff said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Excellent post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Thank you and well done to the mod(s) that cleaned up the thread. Hopefully now now we can focus energies to wishing the man, currently at his lowest ebb, a full recovery from his demons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, gjcc said: Thank you and well done to the mod(s) that cleaned up the thread. Hopefully now now we can focus energies to wishing the man, currently at his lowest ebb, a full recovery from his demons. good luck Leigh, strength to your elbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) I've no idea if he genuinely "hates" Hearts, or otherwise, and don't particularly care. I have noticed (on more than just the one occasion) instances where he has made light of a situation / offered "sympathy" to an opponent when there was no obligation to do so. Doesn't excuse the racist shit (trying too hard to live up to his daft mates' expectations, I suspect) but has made me think the guy is far from the devil incarnate he is often portrayed to be on here. FWIW, I don't wish him any ill. Edited December 13, 2018 by J.T.F.Robertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Griffiths is obviously no saint and has some dark sides to his personality. Nevertheless, I can forgive him anything for those two free kicks against England at Hampden, the best buzz I've ever had at a game (biggest buzzkill came just seconds later) so all the best to him for a full recovery. And anyway, if we get any promising free-kicks against Belgium we need someone to take them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 7 hours ago, sairyinthat said: Bit of a physchiatrist are we?along with your many other imagined talents,away and play with yourself dork with the mock outrage. One doesn't need a degree in PSYCHOLOGY to see you have issues. However, any kind of basic English course would help you greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I don’t like him. His racist behaviour sealed that. I am not about to start making myself like him because he has mental health issues though. I hope he manages to deal with those issues, as I don’t dislike him enough to wish death upon him, and that’s where these things can sometimes lead in extreme cases. I would like to see him overcome those issues, as I would anybody else. I think that he is a very unlikeable character though and I don’t think his mental health issues of “upbringing” are an adequate excuse for things he has done. Imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Well said, especially the part about the heavy burden, I hope LG gets help and in turn helps others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure Fantastic post. Take a bow sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure I have beither fondness nor respect for Griffiths as a person, but your post is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: I don’t like him. His racist behaviour sealed that. I am not about to start making myself like him because he has mental health issues though. I hope he manages to deal with those issues, as I don’t dislike him enough to wish death upon him, and that’s where these things can sometimes lead in extreme cases. I would like to see him overcome those issues, as I would anybody else. I think that he is a very unlikeable character though and I don’t think his mental health issues of “upbringing” are an adequate excuse for things he has done. Imo. Couldn't have put it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure I’m glad to tell you, as sole arbiter of what constitutes a PHM, that you are alright. I hope the lad gets better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Strange that a few are quick to condemn Griffiths as a racist yet a good number rallied to the defence of Section N , who often behave far worse. Before we slag others off we need to get our own house in order and get back to the family club that the great Wallace Mercer nurtured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Prof said: Strange that a few are quick to condemn Griffiths as a racist yet a good number rallied to the defence of Section N , who often behave far worse. Before we slag others off we need to get our own house in order and get back to the family club that the great Wallace Mercer nurtured. Not really. I think you may be falling in to that common trap of thinking that comments on JKB are agreed upon by committee and the unanimous opinion of all. Not going to bother checking, but I’m willing to make an educated guess that there is a high probability those who are condemning him as a racist wee bawbag, have also called out the racist element in our support. Sorry. I just don’t like racists and I care not a jot what colour of scarf or strip they wear, nor what church they do or do not regularly attend. Edited December 14, 2018 by Glib and Shameless Crier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Prof said: Strange that a few are quick to condemn Griffiths as a racist yet a good number rallied to the defence of Section N , who often behave far worse. Before we slag others off we need to get our own house in order and get back to the family club that the great Wallace Mercer nurtured. All of what you are saying here is nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, Prof said: Strange that a few are quick to condemn Griffiths as a racist yet a good number rallied to the defence of Section N , who often behave far worse. Before we slag others off we need to get our own house in order and get back to the family club that the great Wallace Mercer nurtured. We condemn racists in our own support, and we condemn racists like Griffiths. There is no hypocrisy here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ron Burgundy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Prof said: Strange that a few are quick to condemn Griffiths as a racist yet a good number rallied to the defence of Section N , who often behave far worse. Before we slag others off we need to get our own house in order and get back to the family club that the great Wallace Mercer nurtured. I reckon it's actually the opposite. There will be many condemning the accused youngsters from section N and branding them scum of the earth etc but willing to show how much of a great human being they are by forgiving The Thumb for bring a racist wee bassa. And you can spot the shallow Scotland fans who forgive him because he scored against England. It's not a one off with this guy. He has a list as long as your arm of being a dick and scummy behaviour. We are all responsible for our own actions. His have caught up with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Ron Burgundy said: I reckon it's actually the opposite. There will be many condemning the accused youngsters from section N and branding them scum of the earth etc but willing to show how much of a great human being they are by forgiving The Thumb for bring a racist wee bassa. And you can spot the shallow Scotland fans who forgive him because he scored against England. It's not a one off with this guy. He has a list as long as your arm of being a dick and scummy behaviour. We are all responsible for our own actions. His have caught up with him. Show me where that has happened, Ron. Intrigued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhgh1973 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Last weekend I spent 15 minutes talking to a 19 year old homeless lad sleeping outside a shop in Stirling town centre who has been homeless since he was 14, he's from Bonnyrigg. He was desperately pleading for money but not for food. He was alarmingly honest, he needs money for drugs to get him through the night. In 5 years he has had an offer of 1 night in a hostel, he simply said " there is no help for people like me otherwise they would have helped me when I was homeless at 14 - I gave him a tenner right or wrong I was heartbroken in that moment. Now to Griffiths, I have not an ounce of sympathy or concern for whatever he is going through. He has had every opportunity in life thrown at him to be a multi millionaire with a wonderful life, hero worshiped. He had a choice and chose to go down the wrong road. As far as I am concerned he can be penniless, homeless and I would not give a second thought for him. Whatever he is suffering is self inflicted BUT of-course will now be mollycoddled and a hero of the cause - Whilst the 19 year old is waiting to die sleeping outside a shop , he has had no chances and been destitute since he was 14, so Griffiths GTF and whatever happens remember it's self-inflicted and deserves zero sympathy from anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Though I wish no harm I will spare my sympathies for those deserving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, hhgh1973 said: Last weekend I spent 15 minutes talking to a 19 year old homeless lad sleeping outside a shop in Stirling town centre who has been homeless since he was 14, he's from Bonnyrigg. He was desperately pleading for money but not for food. He was alarmingly honest, he needs money for drugs to get him through the night. In 5 years he has had an offer of 1 night in a hostel, he simply said " there is no help for people like me otherwise they would have helped me when I was homeless at 14 - I gave him a tenner right or wrong I was heartbroken in that moment. Now to Griffiths, I have not an ounce of sympathy or concern for whatever he is going through. He has had every opportunity in life thrown at him to be a multi millionaire with a wonderful life, hero worshiped. He had a choice and chose to go down the wrong road. As far as I am concerned he can be penniless, homeless and I would not give a second thought for him. Whatever he is suffering is self inflicted BUT of-course will now be mollycoddled and a hero of the cause - Whilst the 19 year old is waiting to die sleeping outside a shop , he has had no chances and been destitute since he was 14, so Griffiths GTF and whatever happens remember it's self-inflicted and deserves zero sympathy from anyone Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Show me where that has happened, Ron. Intrigued... Have a look through the 30 pages of guff about racist behaviour then cross refer, I reckon you have the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, Sir Gio said: Though I wish no harm I will spare my sympathies for those deserving Pretty much where I am about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, hhgh1973 said: Last weekend I spent 15 minutes talking to a 19 year old homeless lad sleeping outside a shop in Stirling town centre who has been homeless since he was 14, he's from Bonnyrigg. He was desperately pleading for money but not for food. He was alarmingly honest, he needs money for drugs to get him through the night. In 5 years he has had an offer of 1 night in a hostel, he simply said " there is no help for people like me otherwise they would have helped me when I was homeless at 14 - I gave him a tenner right or wrong I was heartbroken in that moment. Now to Griffiths, I have not an ounce of sympathy or concern for whatever he is going through. He has had every opportunity in life thrown at him to be a multi millionaire with a wonderful life, hero worshiped. He had a choice and chose to go down the wrong road. As far as I am concerned he can be penniless, homeless and I would not give a second thought for him. Whatever he is suffering is self inflicted BUT of-course will now be mollycoddled and a hero of the cause - Whilst the 19 year old is waiting to die sleeping outside a shop , he has had no chances and been destitute since he was 14, so Griffiths GTF and whatever happens remember it's self-inflicted and deserves zero sympathy from anyone I fully support trying to guide people towards help with addiction and mental health issues. If a person seeks that help out, I think we should have an adequate system in place to help them. I recently did something similar to you for a homeless guy in Edinburgh. Despite what I have just said, I have two further comments to make on the subject: 1) If I decide to give a homeless person money, then I genuinely don’t mind if they decide to spend it on drink or other drugs. Entirely their choice, and if it helps them feel a wee bit better for even five minutes, then okay. 2) I don’t like Leigh Griffiths because he is a racist wee arsehole. I hope he sorts out his own demons, but I will not be rushing to offer him sympathy for his self-destructive demons, until he tackles the demons that cause him to abuse others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Have a look through the 30 pages of guff about racist behaviour then cross refer, I reckon you have the time. Oh... so you’re actually just talking shite, and driving an agenda? Cool. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 16 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: Despite all the truly horrible things that Griffiths has said and done, I just can't wish him ill on hearing this news. As far as we know he's not a murderer, paedophile etc. He's made some awful life decisions and mistakes, as many of us have, but he's to be pitied more than anything in my opinion. He's a bit thick, and from all accounts has had a tough upbringing. I've seen too many families torn apart by addiction, whether that be drink, gambling or drugs and it's horrible to see things disintegrating in front of you. I don't understand how someone with the world at his feet like Griffiths, can throw it all away, and I can only imagine the kind of life that someone could enjoy playing the sport you love and being rewarded handsomely. I read over on Hibs net about the attitude of some to Wallace Mercer and I pity them. To be so devoid of humanity is a heavy burden to carry throughout your life. I think I'm better than that. I hope Griffiths gets his shit together and if that makes me less of a Hearts fan, then I'll just have to take that on the chin. Griffiths is one of the lucky ones. There are thousands of people like him who won't get the help and support that his 'status' will ensure This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Locke Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Prof said: Strange that a few are quick to condemn Griffiths as a racist yet a good number rallied to the defence of Section N , who often behave far worse. Before we slag others off we need to get our own house in order and get back to the family club that the great Wallace Mercer nurtured. Any excuse to slate our own fans these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Oh... so you’re actually just talking shite, and driving an agenda? Cool. ? Yeah i have an agenda that all racists should be treated equally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Oh... so you’re actually just talking shite, and driving an agenda? Cool. ? He did start his statement with 'I reckon.....' which kinda quantified what he went on to say as being a matter of opinion rather than cold hard fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartmussel Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 His agent must be doing a very good job for him, it might be an idea to try and strike a deal for him to follow Brown in a supposed move to Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis2006 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Steven Naismith out there plating up meals for the homeless. Leigh Griffiths out there blowing thousands at the bookies and banging bingo up his hooter. Think I’ll pass up on the well wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Yeah i have an agenda that all racists should be treated equally. Nah. Your agenda comes across more as Hearts’ racists should be treated with more sympathy because they happen to follow the same football team as us. In my opinion of course... seeing as how there is no obvious evidence to back up your assumptions that folk are offering more sympathy towards Griffiths compared to the wankers in our support. Again, all in my opinion obviously... Just what I reckon y’know. 8 minutes ago, Erik said: He did start his statement with 'I reckon.....' which kinda quantified what he went on to say as being a matter of opinion rather than cold hard fact. Cool. I reckon he’s not particularly fussy about people being racist, and that he places who someone supports above their behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I wish him no ill will especially and have no particular appetite to see him suffer. But I definitely don't want to see the good wishes of Hearts fans thrown back in their faces by future behaviour, once he is 'better'. I would wish him all the very best if I knew for a fact he appreciated our goodwill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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