Pans Jambo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, RobboM said: I'm ok with the main plot of Dany burning down Kings Landing. There's been many examples in past seasons where she has burnt down her enemies. The "visions" of a dragon's shadow flying over Kings Landing and the throne under a snowfall of ash all foreshadowed this as an ending. The transformation though has felt clumsy. I wonder if, when she stopped with Drogon and the bells sounded, what if they had a series of flashbacks, through all the violent deaths she has been involved in, allies she has lost, betrayals she has experienced right up to Missandei's "Dracarys", maybe that would have been a way of illustraing her journey to this point in a truncated fashion? What bugs me more is the crappy side stories. Wouldn't it have been better, more shocking and unexpeced, for Euron to have been torched as Dany burnt the ships in Blackwater Bay instead of the ludicrous fight scene with Jamie? As much as fans have talked up Cleganebowl, how about the Keep collapses before The Hound can even get close, no redemption, no neat ending. Has Bronn added anything of use with his quest with a crossbow? For a show that used to be "clever" it hasn't half turned dumb Forgot about Bronn. Hes only got 1 Lannister left & theres no way hes collecting his new castle, estate & title. Be cool if he tries in the last episode though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 How are they going to manage to conclude all of this to a decent end in 1 episode? Bronn Brann Iron Throne Winner Sansa Arya All need a decent conclusion. Can see a few deaths as an easy out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, hughesie27 said: How are they going to manage to conclude all of this to a decent end in 1 episode? Bronn Brann Iron Throne Winner Sansa Arya All need a decent conclusion. Can see a few deaths as an easy out. Does someone need to be sat on the throne for it to end? We’re all preoccupied with who will sit on it, that no-one seems to entertain the idea that no-one will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said: Does someone need to be sat on the throne for it to end? We’re all preoccupied with who will sit on it, that no-one seems to entertain the idea that no-one will. Funnily enough, I saw the betting this morning, and nobody to be on the Iron Throne at the end is around 4th favourite. Favourite listed below for anyone interested. Spoiler Brann Stark is strong favourite at around evs, followed by Sansa at 5/2 Jon/Arya/Nobody all around 6/1 to 8/1 mark Edited May 16, 2019 by Say What Again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Say What Again said: Funnily enough, I saw the betting this morning, and nobody to be on the Iron Throne at the end is around 4th favourite. Favourite listed below for anyone interested. Reveal hidden contents Brann Stark is strong favourite at around evs, followed by Sansa at 5/2 Jon/Arya/Nobody all around 6/1 to 8/1 mark I wouldn’t be surprised to see the North and South being governed as separate kingdoms when it ends. Sansa as Queen of the North (ending as the series started, with her wanting to be Queen) and Tyrion in the South, as the Lannister’s have the throne and, technically, he’s next in the line of succession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Someone has set up a petition to get HBO to redo Season 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shanks said no Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see the North and South being governed as separate kingdoms when it ends. Sansa as Queen of the North (ending as the series started, with her wanting to be Queen) and Tyrion in the South, as the Lannister’s have the throne and, technically, he’s next in the line of succession. Sansa North, Brann South and a pregnant Arya carrying the heir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Sansa North, Brann South and a pregnant Arya carrying the heir Who they'll call Ned! Edited May 16, 2019 by AndyNic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Maybe we’ll see gendry on the throne now he has a valid claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, superjack said: Maybe we’ll see gendry on the throne now he has a valid claim. I thought that for a long time, otherwise what's the point in him being Baratheon's *******? But it would seem strange now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 12:06, Tazio said: Just saw a great tweet basically saying Good work for Lena Headey, $1,000,000 an episode to look out a window and drink wine. I'd be happy to look out a window and drink wine with her, and I would do it for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: I thought that for a long time, otherwise what's the point in him being Baratheon's *******? But it would seem strange now. To convince Stanis he is the rightful heir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, AndyNic said: The incels are raging ??? Its a ****ing fantasy series. Its been great and this series is also enjoyable, so its been rushed? Well dry your eyes folks, these things happen. Folk need to get out more instead of pouring over every wee detail. Heres a spolier - ITS NO ****ING REAL And if you couldnt see that Daenerys was going to go mental about 4 series ago you need a slap. Edited May 16, 2019 by The Brow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, superjack said: Maybe we’ll see gendry on the throne now he has a valid claim. Gendry and Arya, uniting the 2 houses? Unfortunately not how it supposedly ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Gendry and Arya, uniting the 2 houses? Unfortunately not how it supposedly ends Fuuuuuuuuuckkkkk offfffffffff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Sooperstar said: Fuuuuuuuuuckkkkk offfffffffff. I agree completely. Spoiler after the episodes please. In spoiler tabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Gendry and Arya, uniting the 2 houses? Unfortunately not how it supposedly ends Worthy a thread ban. No need whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 apologies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Worthy a thread ban. No need whatsoever. Not far enough, a total forum ban is called for here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Officially off this thread until Monday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Personally don’t see why Jon won’t end up on the Throne. varys’s litttle speech about his suitability would seem to presage that ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_fae_Gillie Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 The excuse for a 2 year wait was the huge cost and time to make these battles for a TV market as it all seems so rushed now it clearly needed 1 more season which would have involved less dramatic scenes but more unveiling scenes to show the character changes of Danny and Jamie and move the story at a slower pace, Still can't get over no reaction scene from Jon telling his sisters who he is, holy hell how to miss one of the most important moments ever. Massive failings this season almost as bad as Lost. Great programme ruined by not having to care if viewers continue watching in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said: The excuse for a 2 year wait was the huge cost and time to make these battles for a TV market as it all seems so rushed now it clearly needed 1 more season which would have involved less dramatic scenes but more unveiling scenes to show the character changes of Danny and Jamie and move the story at a slower pace, Still can't get over no reaction scene from Jon telling his sisters who he is, holy hell how to miss one of the most important moments ever. Massive failings this season almost as bad as Lost. Great programme ruined by not having to care if viewers continue watching in the future. I do think they were on a bit of hiding to nothing either way. Folk were moaning in previous seasons when there wasn't enough action and they were apparently spending too much time on characters but this season they are criticised for the opposite. It might not be the same folk tbf and they have backed themselves into a corner opting for 6 episodes and 1 season. Two seasons to wrap all the main characters stories up properly would have been perfect imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, AlphonseCapone said: I do think they were on a bit of hiding to nothing either way. Folk were moaning in previous seasons when there wasn't enough action and they were apparently spending too much time on characters but this season they are criticised for the opposite. It might not be the same folk tbf and they have backed themselves into a corner opting for 6 episodes and 1 season. Two seasons to wrap all the main characters stories up properly would have been perfect imo. Agreed, it's all a bit rushed now to try and tie up all of the story lines they have been building for the last 7 seasons. For me a huge disappointment was the Night King, for 7 seasons all we've heard about is 'Winter is coming' and the all but invincible night king and in the flash of a blade he's gone and the whole massive build up over 7 seasons just ended so flatly imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Agreed, it's all a bit rushed now to try and tie up all of the story lines they have been building for the last 7 seasons. For me a huge disappointment was the Night King, for 7 seasons all we've heard about is 'Winter is coming' and the all but invincible night king and in the flash of a blade he's gone and the whole massive build up over 7 seasons just ended so flatly imo. Definitely, it was very underwhelming in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 At work and sitting thinking, when dany decided to go full BBQ mode kings landing looked in a pretty good state. Too much of a good state considering cersei blew half of it up with wildfire not so long ago, same goes for winterfell after the battle. The workies on site must have been on a job and finish contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Another thing that dawned on me, if someone were to get rid of Dany (sneaky Arya stabbing would be good) then you're stuck with a very large pissed off dragon that has already destroyed all the scorpions that seem to be the only way to get rid of them. Tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tazio said: Another thing that dawned on me, if someone were to get rid of Dany (sneaky Arya stabbing would be good) then you're stuck with a very large pissed off dragon that has already destroyed all the scorpions that seem to be the only way to get rid of them. Tricky. Perhaps Jon being of Targaryen blood might allow him to calm/control the dragon? Just a guess but its obvious shes gonna bite the dust last episode and I would bet it will be Arya or Jon that will dispatch her. Not so sure how the unsullied will feel about their queen getting slaughtered though. Edited May 17, 2019 by Pans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: Perhaps Jon being of Targaryen blood might allow him to calm/control the dragon? Just a guess but its obvious shes gonna bite the dust last episode and I would bet it will be Arya or Jon that will dispatch her. Not so sure how the unsullied will feel about their queen getting slaughtered though. I think there is definitely a Jon v Greyworm battle on the horizon. That look they gave each other when Greyworm decided to spear the soldiers who had surrendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I wonder what Tyrion request to Davos was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, benny said: I wonder what Tyrion request to Davos was. To smuggle Jamie and Cersi out of Kings Landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Brightside said: To smuggle Jamie and Cersi out of Kings Landing. I thought it was just to smuggle Jamie in? Didn't think Davos would go as far as sneaking her out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: I thought it was just to smuggle Jamie in? Didn't think Davos would go as far as sneaking her out. If I remember rightly Tyrion asks Davos for a favour then goes to free Jamie and tells him about the boat. When Jamie meets Euron on the beach the small boat is already there. Maybe the favour was just to smuggle the boat to that location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: If I remember rightly Tyrion asks Davos for a favour then goes to free Jamie and tells him about the boat. When Jamie meets Euron on the beach the small boat is already there. Maybe the favour was just to smuggle the boat to that location? Yes. I think davos smuggled Jamie out of winterfell so he could persuade Cersei to leave. The dinghy was left at the beach so Jamie and Cersei could travel to pentos together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Agreed, it's all a bit rushed now to try and tie up all of the story lines they have been building for the last 7 seasons. For me a huge disappointment was the Night King, for 7 seasons all we've heard about is 'Winter is coming' and the all but invincible night king and in the flash of a blade he's gone and the whole massive build up over 7 seasons just ended so flatly imo. How else would you kill the Night King? I'm much happier with Arya chibbing him, than some 5 minute sword fight with Jon or a dragon based dog fight with Dany. Arya came from nowhere and it was an unexpected way for him to die, which is kind of what GoT is famous for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Brightside said: If I remember rightly Tyrion asks Davos for a favour then goes to free Jamie and tells him about the boat. When Jamie meets Euron on the beach the small boat is already there. Maybe the favour was just to smuggle the boat to that location? He spoke to Jaime before Davos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Normthebarman said: How else would you kill the Night King? I'm much happier with Arya chibbing him, than some 5 minute sword fight with Jon or a dragon based dog fight with Dany. Arya came from nowhere and it was an unexpected way for him to die, which is kind of what GoT is famous for. Aye somehow through all the white walkers standing in a circle around the night king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Aye somehow through all the white walkers standing in a circle around the night king. Someone mentioned that earlier in the thread and it was pointed out that when Jon had been stood looking at the tree earlier in the season she managed to sneak up on him without him noticing, prompting him to ask 'how did you sneak up on me'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, AlphonseCapone said: Aye somehow through all the white walkers standing in a circle around the night king. Still nowhere near as bad as a bunch of mask wearing dudes cutting their way through the unsullied like they didn't exist. At least they'd already raised the point that Arya is deathly quiet and stealthy as ****. When those gold mask guys just stabbed their way through the unsullied, that was terrible. I genuinely have no issue with how the Night King was taken down. They could have spent a bit longer on Dany's breakdown in becoming a psycho, Jamie swithering over nailing Brienne or going back for Cersei, more on the dug and Tormund, hell, there's a few stories that seem rushed in wrapping it up. But the Night King was done fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Someone mentioned that earlier in the thread and it was pointed out that when Jon had been stood looking at the tree earlier in the season she managed to sneak up on him without him noticing, prompting him to ask 'how did you sneak up on me'. I missed that. It's things like this that mean I'm going to watch the entire thing, from season 1 to the end again and then properly judge this final season. So many nuances and things you can miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: I missed that. It's things like this that mean I'm going to watch the entire thing, from season 1 to the end again and then properly judge this final season. So many nuances and things you can miss. Yeah it's all these little moments which appear completely inconsequential at the time but actually have a meaning or purpose further down the line. God knows how people pick up on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Normthebarman said: How else would you kill the Night King? I'm much happier with Arya chibbing him, than some 5 minute sword fight with Jon or a dragon based dog fight with Dany. Arya came from nowhere and it was an unexpected way for him to die, which is kind of what GoT is famous for. Fully agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: I missed that. It's things like this that mean I'm going to watch the entire thing, from season 1 to the end again and then properly judge this final season. So many nuances and things you can miss. I started watching it again from the start and just finished season 1 and your right, it’s amazing what I missed. Of course it helps that you know the characters but this is a series that has a huge replay factor. like the Sopranos I can see me watching the whole thing at least 3 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Sooperstar said: He spoke to Jaime before Davos. Tyrion definitely spoke to Davos first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Dino Velvet said: Tyrion definitely spoke to Davos first. Prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Sooperstar said: Prove it. Or, how about you watch it again and see for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Dino Velvet said: Or, how about you watch it again and see for yourself. Dont have to. I know what happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Sooperstar said: Dont have to. I know what happened! Cool. Then you’ll know Tyrion asked davos for a favour, before going to see Jamie in the tent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 I found out by mistake what the ending is supposed to be. Hate spoilers. Raging at finding out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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