John mcCartney Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 debut 4 spot on,we all wants best for hearts .... lets face it were willing this geezer well but in reality its all there bar the will....its amazing the standard that some hmfc fans have now gone to was brilliant going to the piggery and taking the points tonight but we could have buried those rats with the amount of counters in the second half but the defence hung on valiantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 45 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: I suggest a wider social circle ?? Correct. I've been frustrated with him but he did a good job tonight. The laddie played well and from my seat should ha e won us a penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, geomac said: or seriously blind fans / stupid / ignorant / never seen a game / racist / used to watching Barca / Messi cannae header? Is this a serious post? If so go and have a lie down. I have no idea what you are talking about, but there again neither do you it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Hopefully this guy is going to keep getting better and make a few of us eat our words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Improving every game. I think we have a future baller on our hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Might have gone down easy but that was a penalty Any player against Hearts and that is a pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankeillor_hearts Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, thegreatsd said: I think Clare is showing signs of improvement every game. He’s still young, coming back from a long term injury and also adjusting to the fast pace of the Scottish game. He’s got some nice touches, decent in the air and he put in a decent shift tonight. I think at times we can be a too quick in writing some players off. Our side is improving as the weeks go on and that will help as well. I hope he keeps improving and I’m fairly sure he will. I agree, he is getting up to speed, give him time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, gowestjambo said: You do what you like Frank, I dont give a feck. Clearly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomac Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, gowestjambo said: Is this a serious post? If so go and have a lie down. I have no idea what you are talking about, but there again neither do you it seems. Yes!? In response to what you consider a good player, what is your criteria for a 'good player' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauldrick Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Sean Clare is now beginning to show signs that there is indeed a 'player' in there, once we get all our players back from injury and the team is once again ticking over nicely the pressure will be less intense on him and I'm sure we will be singing his praises by the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I thought he did more today then he has ever shown in a match. He was making more runs combining well with Naismith. Seems to be good at pulling the defenders around when he hasn't got the ball. I think his problem is that his confidence in the final third of the pitch means that to some fans he looks like he is not doing anything, if he can get that goal it will make big difference as you can see when he is in front of goal he is reluctant to pull the trigger or make the wrong decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I do think it was his best game yet, he got involved and with a bit more experience he will make more right decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I am going to pity baws on the one and say he is going to become one of our top players. I like the look of him and think there's loads and loads more to come from this lad. As a side note have had a horrid virus since boxing day and tnite has really made me feel so much better. Cheers Hearts (and Liverpool) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyseymour Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Debut 4 said: Well, we all see things differently. At the game I saw a player too tentative to come off his marker and show for the ball. Only in the last 10 mins of the first half did he realise that you need to take a good touch, think quick and be sharp with your play in a derby. In the second his decision making isn’t there. He tries to head an impossible ball to Naisy when it’s about taking a touch and getting it down. Then he wins a tackle but plays a nothing ball thereafter against Ambrose when he should be taking him on. He’s too timid. I believe there's a player there..but lacks confidence. He came with reputation of pace and keen to take men on..he's hardly shown his pace and rarely run with the ball except on one or 2 occasions ..but summit tells me he could come good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Arnaud said: Hearts manager Craig Levein tells BBC Sportsound: "I'm only worried about the feeling in the group and when I left the dressing room they sounded quite happy. "We had to show a bit of resilience, especially at the end when they threw Darren McGregor up and really bombarded us. "We just edged it but it was another really close match. "This is a massive match for us. It was important to go into the winter break with another three points in our pocket. "We'll get John Souttar and Uche Ikpeza back and David Vanecek in and maybe do another bit of business to strengthen us. "Special mention for Sean Clare. That's was his best performance for us." Pretty clear that: a) CL knows he's not been very good so far b) He thinks its down to confidence, so needs his tyres pumped I thought he was decidedly average tonight and have no confidence in him doing anything effective with the ball at this point in time. Good, articulate post. I think once Clare has a defined position and has a good run in that role, maybe scores a couple, his confidence will improve and we'll have a player. Personally I'd like to see him cut in from wide-left, drive into the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Debut 4 said: What’s good about him then? Like many others, you’re quick to defend everything about the club even if it isn’t adequate. What's wrong with defending the club you support? Being fairly critical is fair, but some **** on here take it to ridiculous, tears and snotters levels. It's ****** embarrassing for them at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Debut 4 said: Sorry, can’t agree. Was hugely on the fringes. Couldn’t get to grips with the pace of the game and the incident when he got booked for diving was his own doing. He simply lacked the courage to impose himself in that moment and take charge of the ball. Utter tosh. There was contact and it isnt a dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Debut 4 said: Well, we all see things differently. At the game I saw a player too tentative to come off his marker and show for the ball. Only in the last 10 mins of the first half did he realise that you need to take a good touch, think quick and be sharp with your play in a derby. In the second his decision making isn’t there. He tries to head an impossible ball to Naisy when it’s about taking a touch and getting it down. Then he wins a tackle but plays a nothing ball thereafter against Ambrose when he should be taking him on. He’s too timid. Think you're being harsh. He was a solid 6 or 7 out of 10 today. Lots of things didn't come off but he kept trying and made a good contribution to the win. Edited December 30, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Debut 4 said: Well, we all see things differently. At the game I saw a player too tentative to come off his marker and show for the ball. Only in the last 10 mins of the first half did he realise that you need to take a good touch, think quick and be sharp with your play in a derby. In the second his decision making isn’t there. He tries to head an impossible ball to Naisy when it’s about taking a touch and getting it down. Then he wins a tackle but plays a nothing ball thereafter against Ambrose when he should be taking him on. He’s too timid. Agree with this assessment Debut. Ignore the ignorants. The ridiculous attempt at a knock on to Naisy was suggestive of a guy who had no confidence in his own ability to take it in. To be fair his first touch, most of the time, suggests he is right. Hope he improves and think he will but wouldnt be in my squad at the mo on performance alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonjam Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Debut 4 said: Well, we all see things differently. At the game I saw a player too tentative to come off his marker and show for the ball. Only in the last 10 mins of the first half did he realise that you need to take a good touch, think quick and be sharp with your play in a derby. In the second his decision making isn’t there. He tries to head an impossible ball to Naisy when it’s about taking a touch and getting it down. Then he wins a tackle but plays a nothing ball thereafter against Ambrose when he should be taking him on. He’s too timid. Exactly what I saw. He didn't want the ball at his feet to take a touch, struggled with short passes. I wonder if he is still recovering from ankle injury as he shys from every 50/50 tackle. I think we will see a different him after summer if he can build up the courage to stick his foot in to a tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyscott82 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 12 hours ago, bobskeldon said: On what evidence do people think it’s about “confidence”? I don’t see a player lacking “confidence”, I just don’t see a player. You didn't see a 'player' in Callum Paterson either. That's handy because it tells me how much attention I need to pay to your 'opinion'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 9 hours ago, To Be Frank said: “Like many others” I think he has got better every game and his cameo against Hamilton and full match tonight showed what he brings to the table. He has very good positional awareness and takes up good positions to receive the ball. He is direct with his running and has very good close control and technique. He has a good change of pace and can accelerate away from players. He helped set up the goal tonight and was involved in most of our most dangerous attacking moves. 8 hours ago, geomac said: Yes!? In response to what you consider a good player, what is your criteria for a 'good player' Wasting your time geomac, he is apparently a player because he “ran” or “won lots of flick on headers” and apparently had “lots of good touches”! It is cliche central on here in terms of assessing SC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, andyscott82 said: You didn't see a 'player' in Callum Paterson either. That's handy because it tells me how much attention I need to pay to your 'opinion'. Interestingly, when you listen to his manager or his team mates they all praise his effort and athleticism (which I have always said he has in abundance) but not one comment about his ability! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 He's a slow burner. Sometimes these types reach a point where they are fully comfortable and become great players. It just all clicks. He's not there yet but he is showing signs of incremental improvement. Let's not forget that he is yet to see the benefit of playing in a true Levein set-up with a big, robust target man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) He’s definitely getting better but short of confidence. Clearly got ability n I’m hopeful he’ll come good. Was it him with the lovely pirouette to take the ball away from two players? Edited December 30, 2018 by BobbyJenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyscott82 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: Interestingly, when you listen to his manager or his team mates they all praise his effort and athleticism (which I have always said he has in abundance) but not one comment about his ability! The same manager who recently said he reminded him of Colin Cameron? Praised his ball carrying skills? Said the rest would come with fitness and confidence? Ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I like Clare and he is getting better in every match. The only thing I would say is, until he is up to speed I'd like if he tried to do more simple things than silky. Also would love for him to shoot when played through on goal! ? I think after the winter break we will see a player more up to speed with the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Once he gets a goal, watch him go. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dallas Green said: I like Clare and he is getting better in every match. The only thing I would say is, until he is up to speed I'd like if he tried to do more simple things than silky. Also would love for him to shoot when played through on goal! ? I think after the winter break we will see a player more up to speed with the game. Yes he is improving but not there yet . Why do so many immediately take the 'hes dug shit' line ? Surely you wait and see hoping/expecting a positive outcome ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 10 hours ago, To Be Frank said: “Like many others” I think he has got better every game and his cameo against Hamilton and full match tonight showed what he brings to the table. He has very good positional awareness and takes up good positions to receive the ball. He is direct with his running and has very good close control and technique. He has a good change of pace and can accelerate away from players. He helped set up the goal tonight and was involved in most of our most dangerous attacking moves. He will come good clearly has some talent and a very athletic lad may be next season but I think he looks promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, bobskeldon said: Wasting your time geomac, he is apparently a player because he “ran” or “won lots of flick on headers” and apparently had “lots of good touches”! It is cliche central on here in terms of assessing SC! See the below three posts Bob which sum up the perfect response to your shite post... 1 hour ago, andyscott82 said: You didn't see a 'player' in Callum Paterson either. That's handy because it tells me how much attention I need to pay to your 'opinion'. 41 minutes ago, BobbyJenkins said: He’s definitely getting better but short of confidence. Clearly got ability n I’m hopeful he’ll come good. Was it him with the lovely pirouette to take the ball away from two players? 36 minutes ago, andyscott82 said: The same manager who recently said he reminded him of Colin Cameron? Praised his ball carrying skills? Said the rest would come with fitness and confidence? Ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 40 minutes ago, andyscott82 said: The same manager who recently said he reminded him of Colin Cameron? Praised his ball carrying skills? Said the rest would come with fitness and confidence? Ok then. CP not SC! Pay attention! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Burns Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 10 hours ago, gowestjambo said: You do what you like Frank, I dont give a feck. If you don't give a ****....why bother replying especially when it's a load of shite that you reply with....don't think you would know a decent player if he kicked you in the balls..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Improving all the time, bet he's tearing it up in training, I don't think we'll have long to wait before he start showing his obvious class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyscott82 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: CP not SC! Pay attention! In my defence, it is hard to pay attention to your slavouring! And interestingly it still seems like you are sticking by your opinion on CP, which only reinforces my opinion that your views on SC are, to be polite, utter tripe and not worth paying attention to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Said it before but he s going to be some player for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, Walter Burns said: If you don't give a ****....why bother replying especially when it's a load of shite that you reply with....don't think you would know a decent player if he kicked you in the balls..... Yep I replied I dont give a feck what Frank thinks, - and the same applies to you. I think you will find your method of knowing a decent player, is not the criteria for what a decent player is. It is however the language of the uneducated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, BobbyJenkins said: He’s definitely getting better but short of confidence. Clearly got ability n I’m hopeful he’ll come good. Was it him with the lovely pirouette to take the ball away from two players? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) What is happening is exactly what Levein said would happen Hes been introduced a bit earlier than ideal after a bad injury and he is getting grief from the fans (quelle surprise our own fans steaming into one of our own players). So Levein has been right so far. The second part of what Levein said was that he was a hell of a player someone we really shouldn’t have been able to sign and once he gets going..... I expect the second bit to happen from after the break.... Edited December 30, 2018 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 He's getting better every week. He'll score soon and keep on improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I think he is improving and hopefully the team break in Spain will contine that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Oliver Twist said: Improving all the time, bet he's tearing it up in training, I don't think we'll have long to wait before he start showing his obvious class. Thought he did ok last night definite improvements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Would give him our next penalty, maybe a goal is just what he needs for his confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, gowestjambo said: Yep I replied I dont give a feck what Frank thinks, - and the same applies to you. I think you will find your method of knowing a decent player, is not the criteria for what a decent player is. It is however the language of the uneducated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, To Be Frank said: I wouldn't worry. gowestjambo got his nose all bent out of shape when challenged on his claim that Michael Smith shouldn't be given a new deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juangoal Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Would give him our next penalty, maybe a goal is just what he needs for his confidence. Agreed. Thought he should have been given then the pen against Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Would give him our next penalty, maybe a goal is just what he needs for his confidence. Didn't Palace try that with Benteke...and he missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Not sure to be honest. Hope I am proved wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getintaethem Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Still not gave up on this lad, and think the January training camp will do wonders for his fitness. A goal would certainly help his confidence too. Don't think he played well last night though. Defensively he was slow to close his man down several times which allowed them to get crosses into our box. He should have done better with both opportunities when clean through, the first he should have hit with his left, that could be down to confidence to though. Had some good moments but also lost possession a few times unnecessarily. Didn't have an easy role last night in the position he was asked to play to be fair to him, and kept going right to the end. Think he needs to find that extra half yard, a bit like Naismith last season, and could do with working on his upper body strength, but in terms of touch and ability I can see a player in there when fully fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo89 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 13 hours ago, hearts00 said: Disagree. Technique was what was missing tonight. Too often had a heavy a touch while dribbling and a few too many errant passes. Then tries to shoot with his right foot when put through which was never on. As well as not making enough of the penalty incident, as in should have done much much better. As as I say thought his effort, movement and pace were encouraging tonight. But I am still waiting to see the quality that everyone raves about when we signed him. Not make enough of the penalty!? He was fouled : boooked for diving (which it never was) so how could make more of it? Some people just can’t wait for players to fail. Its clear that there is a player in there and he’s starting to improve. nah let’s not be encouraged by the signs of improvement, let’s just moan and pick faults in other aspects of his game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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