luckyBatistuta Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Why is the umpires nose so big, long and pointy...is this racist too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Cade said: This entire episode should be about the poor behaviour of a spoiled, petulant, entitled celebrity bully. Instead, it's been hijacked to be about race and sexism. Serena is a prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 How are people still so angry about this? It was almost a week ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 10 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: I reckon if the same cartoonist had put this up instead, they’d still be focusing on her facial features and claiming it’s racist. When I said earlier that it was only the lips that could be construed to have crossed the line, I had been referring to the Rolling Stones logo the cartoonist put on her face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 9 hours ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: How are people still so angry about this? It was almost a week ago. It's not the incident itself that seems to be rumbling on, rather the aftermath and turning it into another stick to beat white men with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Only white people can be caricatured clearly. The National Association of Black journalists seem to suggest so at least. p.s I am not making this group up, check it out - it is actually an association. As a side note I despise Serena but yet I am still strangely attracted to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: As a side note I despise Serena but yet I am still strangely attracted to her. I've the thing going on with my wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 13 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: Why is the umpires nose so big, long and pointy...is this racist too I honestly despair with this nonsense. It is like people look through every single article, TV prog, song, anything just lookign for stuff to spin into _____(insert whatever 'ist' is applicable)_________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, Dawnrazor said: I've the thing going on with my wife. Does your wife look like Serena? I'll pick your car keys out the bowl my man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, i8hibsh said: Does your wife look like Serena? I'll pick your car keys out the bowl my man. Nah, if my wife looked like Serena do you think I'd have the balls to post shite like this about her? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Only white people can be caricatured clearly. The National Association of Black journalists seem to suggest so at least. p.s I am not making this group up, check it out - it is actually an association. As a side note I despise Serena but yet I am still strangely attracted to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: I honestly despair with this nonsense. It is like people look through every single article, TV prog, song, anything just lookign for stuff to spin into _____(insert whatever 'ist' is applicable)_________ Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: Bad picture and not a fair one. She scrubs up well and I am really attracted to brown skin on a girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, i8hibsh said: Bad picture and not a fair one. She scrubs up well and I am really attracted to brown skin on a girl. You’re right, couldn’t resist, but that is still her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luckyBatistuta Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Just for you bud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, luckyBatistuta said: Just for you bud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: I still wouldn’t fight her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, luckyBatistuta said: I still wouldn’t fight her The punch at an Oilver Reid and George Best party wouldn't be as strong as hers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: The punch at an Oilver Reid and George Best party wouldn't be as strong as hers. Aye, only because they're deid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: Looks like Predator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Bad picture and not a fair one. She scrubs up well and I am really attracted to brown skin on a girl. Racist. ::troll:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: Wouldn’t want to go hame to that with a short wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, peter_hmfc said: Racist. ::troll:: I am also objectifying women. Defo a mysogynist too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: I am also objectifying women. Defo a mysogynist too The good thing is that you are open about it. There's more chance that you can get help now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 22 hours ago, graygo said: The Herald Sun in Australia is getting battered for showing a caricature of Serena having her meltdown in the US Open last week. Not for me, pretty good likeness in my opinion and actually quite funny too. This popped up on Facepuss so I just thought I would post it to show that other cartoonists have portrayed Serena. For some unknown reason I cannot recollect these being slammed in a similar fashion to the recent US Open one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serena_(name) "Serena is a feminine given name. It is derived from the Latin word serēnus, meaning "clear, tranquil, serene"." (And yes I8, I did Google it to confirm what I was pretty sure was the case. Sorry if any offence caused by this! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 12/09/2018 at 22:28, Ulysses said: Some people felt that bias of some description was drawn into the cartoon. I'm aware of course that people are notoriously bad at noticing what they are reading into a drawing, and therefore assume that what they interpret is caused by the person who does the drawing. But I'm also conscious of the fact that I encountered a unanimous view of this particular cartoon, when normally I'm used to these people having differing views on subjects. When I saw the drawing first, I didn't really think anything of it. But...... If I look at the cartoon again, as dispassionately as I can, the representation of Serena Williams isn't actually a caricature of her. It simply doesn't look like her, not even in exaggerated form. caricatures are never accurate representations but it's not way off the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, The White Cockade said: caricatures are never accurate representations but it's not way off the mark I agree, to say its not likeness is daft, if you showed 1000 people the cartoon who were aware of women's tennis of the last 10 years, how many would say it was Serina Williams? I'm betting a huge preportion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: I agree, to say its not likeness is daft, if you showed 1000 people the cartoon who were aware of women's tennis of the last 10 years, how many would say it was Serina Williams? I'm betting a huge preportion. It's more like a blacked-up Mick Jagger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Ulysses said: It's more like a blacked-up Mick Jagger. You racist swine you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: I agree, to say its not likeness is daft, if you showed 1000 people the cartoon who were aware of women's tennis of the last 10 years, how many would say it was Serina Williams? I'm betting a huge preportion. It's obvious because there are very few black tennis players and the frizzy hair is distinctive. The big red lips used in the cartoon are nothing like Williams'. They're probably what most people are objecting to as they look like something you would have seen in Jim Crow era cartoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Mountains and molehills are springing to mind here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Stokesy said: It's obvious because there are very few black tennis players and the frizzy hair is distinctive. The big red lips used in the cartoon are nothing like Williams'. They're probably what most people are objecting to as they look like something you would have seen in Jim Crow era cartoons. So it's obvious it's her then, I think the lips have been caricatured as much as the hair and her actions because it's a cartoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy1874 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 On 13/09/2018 at 12:48, ri Alban said: Wouldn’t want to go hame to that with a short wage. Doesn't bear thinking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Extremely racist. All the white folk in the front rows of the crowd have been reduced to being featureless, genderless ghost faces deserving of little more than a single pencil stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Womens tennis is all about screaming every time they hit a ball, such a carry on , even some blokes now giving it big moans, weird behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Womens tennis is all about screaming every time they hit a ball, such a carry on , even some blokes now giving it big moans, weird behaviour. Can't watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Can't watch it. I never missed it , but now not interested, imagine golfers giving it big moans at a drive, no difference . at force used on impact . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: I never missed it , but now not interested, imagine golfers giving it big moans at a drive, no difference . at force used on impact . I watched about 5 minutes of Wimbledon, when I never used to miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Harry Potter said: I never missed it , but now not interested, imagine golfers giving it big moans at a drive, no difference . at force used on impact . They're completely different. For a start the time of impact is much longer in tennis (almost 5 times as long), you also have to 'return' the shot, whereas in golf you're striking a stationary ball. Someone needs a physics higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, The Brow said: They're completely different. For a start the time of impact is much longer in tennis (almost 5 times as long), you also have to 'return' the shot, whereas in golf you're striking a stationary ball. Someone needs a physics higher. Aye, that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, The Brow said: They're completely different. For a start the time of impact is much longer in tennis (almost 5 times as long), you also have to 'return' the shot, whereas in golf you're striking a stationary ball. Someone needs a physics higher. Ok back to school it is, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Folk moaning at women players’ noise is soooo Express letters page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 47 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Folk moaning at women players’ noise is soooo Express letters page No, they're just shite. Come to think of it, are women any good any sport. As in could the No 1 woman beat the number 1 Man at any sport. Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Her behaviour was disgraceful, embaressing, IMO she got off very lightly. Her fellow professionals, I wonder what they really think, i would doubt any of them really support her behaviour. On the day she was well beaten by a better tennis player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: No, they're just shite. Come to think of it, are women any good any sport. As in could the No 1 woman beat the number 1 Man at any sport. Nope. Synchronised swimming. Chill out man, you're coming across very bitter with your lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, The Brow said: Synchronised swimming. Chill out man, you're coming across very bitter with your lot. Synchronised swimming isn't a proper sport though, it's just team dancing in water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Interesting views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Eight whole days now since this incident and folk are still thrashing around in a swamp of seethe about just women athletes in general now. Makes you wonder tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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