Malaysia women caned for attempting to have lesbian sex

[Bridge of Djoum]

The world is ******.

 

 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45395086

[John Findlay]

Their rules. It maybe wrong by western standards but who am I to interfere with the Malaysians?

[Irufushi]

12 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Their rules. It maybe wrong by western standards but who am I to interfere with the Malaysians?

 

 

[Cade]

It was not too long ago that the UK was chemically sterilizing and jailing homosexuals.

The rest of the world may take time to catch up with modern Western values on personal freedoms.

 

 

Edited September 3, 2018 by Cade

[John Findlay]

7 minutes ago, Cade said:

It was not too long ago that the UK was chemically sterilizing and jailing homosexuals.

The rest of the world may take time to catch up with modern Western values on personal freedoms.

 

 

Still the rest of the world's choice when to do so though.

[moogsy]

Religion is wonderful ?

[Bridge of Djoum]

I'm gonna cross reference these replies with the posts on the Kodi thread. Talk of rules and caning while some of you have no TV license.

 

For shame.?

[Arnold Rothstein]

[Herbert.]

They should have added the caining during the lesbian show. 

[Morgan]

2 hours ago, John Findlay said:

Their rules. It maybe wrong by western standards but who am I to interfere with the Malaysians?

Exactly John.

[tian447]

I particularly like the part where they say the caning "is not meant to cause pain". 

 

Did ye aye?  What's the ****ing point of it then? 

Edited September 3, 2018 by tian447

[Dagger Is Back]

Too much?

 

[Sooperstar]

3 hours ago, Cade said:

It was not too long ago that the UK was chemically sterilizing and jailing homosexuals.

The rest of the world may take time to catch up with modern Western values on personal freedoms.

 

 

Same sex sex was only legalised in Ireland in 1993. Religion is a force for badness.

[davemclaren]

8 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Same sex sex was only legalised in Ireland in 1993. Religion is a force for badness.

Homosexuality stopped being illegal in Scotland on 1981. 

[¼½¾]

I feel sorry for those poor, poor women.

 

In my thoughts tonight.

[Norm]

16 minutes ago, Lemongrab said:

I feel sorry for those poor, poor women.

 

In my thoughts tonight.

[superjack]

18 minutes ago, Lemongrab said:

I feel sorry for those poor, poor women.

 

In my thoughts tonight.

Think about the problem all night and wake up with the solution in hand.

Edited September 3, 2018 by superjack

[Sooperstar]

1 hour ago, davemclaren said:

Homosexuality stopped being illegal in Scotland on 1981. 

Yep, I think people forget our own recent history when judging some other countries and their laws, as outdated as they undoubtedly are.

[Tazio]

I just think it's a real shame that they only "attempted" it. If you're going to get caned for it you'd think they would have got some practice in beforehand. 

 

On a more serious note it is disgraceful how many countries it is still illegal to be gay in. There was a figure put out during the last commonwealth games about the percentage of commonwealth countries it is illegal in and I was shocked. 

[FWJ]

I don’t want to trigger Godwin, but how far along the “it’s their country, their rules” path could you go?

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 minutes ago, FWJ said:

I don’t want to trigger Godwin, but how far along the “it’s their country, their rules” path could you go?

Good point.

 

[Ray Gin]

Religion  

[I P Knightley]

Before making any judgement, I'm going to have to do a spot of research. Does anyone know of some kind of hub which may contain instructional videos on the matter?

[¼½¾]

41 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

Before making any judgement, I'm going to have to do a spot of research. Does anyone know of some kind of hub which may contain instructional videos on the matter?

I'm no expert, but I'm sure I heard the hubs specialised in family friendly content. 

[SE16 3LN]

19 hours ago, Irufushi said:

 

 

Inhumane pish

 

[southcap]

The reasoning behind 'their country, their rules' could also apple to your neighbour and domestic abuse. Their house, their rules....

 

Shall we extend that gratitude to the catholic church? Their building, their rules.......

 

There is nothing wrong with calling out your neighbour for being a *****, in this case, Malaysia.

[Ron Burgundy]

22 minutes ago, southcap said:

The reasoning behind 'their country, their rules' could also apple to your neighbour and domestic abuse. Their house, their rules....

 

Shall we extend that gratitude to the catholic church? Their building, their rules.......

 

There is nothing wrong with calling out your neighbour for being a *****, in this case, Malaysia.

Correct.

Is it ok for gay muslim men to be thrown off buildings just because that's someone's belief.

A backward savage is a backward savage regardless of where they come from but when it's a punishment imposed by a government that's scary.

[Cade]

Plenty of Malaysian MPs calling this out and saying that they "need to grow up as a culture".

 

Seems they're on the right track after all and this punishment was handed out by a regional sharia court and not a federal one.

[John Findlay]

1 hour ago, southcap said:

The reasoning behind 'their country, their rules' could also apple to your neighbour and domestic abuse. Their house, their rules....

 

Shall we extend that gratitude to the catholic church? Their building, their rules.......

 

There is nothing wrong with calling out your neighbour for being a *****, in this case, Malaysia.

I don't have a neighbour in Malaysia. So my neighbour does not come under their laws. My neighbours come under Scot's Law and therefore western standards. Therfore I have a right upto a point to get involved.

[redjambo]

Purely for information for those who want to learn more about the LGBT situation in Malaysia:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia 

 

It is interesting to note that "A 2013 Pew Research Center opinion survey showed that 9% of the Malaysian population believe homosexuality should be accepted by society, while 86% believe it should not." Unusually, it was older people who were found to be more accepting of homosexuality, not younger people as would have been expected. Malaysia isn't going to be changing its attitudes any day soon.

[Mark M]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-israa-alghomgham-execution-womens-rights-political-activist-qatif-a8501411.html

 

I don't mean to belittle the modern university 20 something feminist activist but ffs. They go bonkers when a gay Disney character is played by a straight person but I'm pretty certain they don't know the addresses of the Malaysian, Iranian or Saudi embassies...

 

 

[peter_hmfc]

14 minutes ago, Mark M said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-israa-alghomgham-execution-womens-rights-political-activist-qatif-a8501411.html

 

I don't mean to belittle the modern university 20 something feminist activist but ffs. They go bonkers when a gay Disney character is played by a straight person but I'm pretty certain they don't know the addresses of the Malaysian, Iranian or Saudi embassies...

 

 

I don't understand people (feminists, activists, etc) who scream misogyny over the slightest "problem" yet appear to actively ignore actual oppression in foreign countries for fear of coming across as offensive (against Islam or such).

 

[davemclaren]

33 minutes ago, peter_hmfc said:

 

 

I don't understand people (feminists, activists, etc) who scream misogyny over the slightest "problem" yet appear to actively ignore actual oppression in foreign countries for fear of coming across as offensive (against Islam or such).

 

Can you give a few examples of those that do that?

[peter_hmfc]

6 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Can you give a few examples of those that do that?

 

The left in general, people who demand action over a tube station bikini picture but are quiet over genuine oppression in the Middle East (for example).

 

Do I know the exact names of these people? No.

Am I going to give you the names of people I know who are like this? Also no.

 

But here:

https://www.huffingtonpost.in/deeba-abedi/how-liberals-are-letting-down-muslim-women-every-day_a_21657727/

 

(I don't usually like the Huffington Post but it's a good article.)

[Paolo]

9 hours ago, FWJ said:

I don’t want to trigger Godwin, but how far along the “it’s their country, their rules” path could you go?

Some people using this logic will also criticise Trump for rigorously  applying or changing his country's rules. 

[Paolo]

2 hours ago, peter_hmfc said:

 

The left in general, people who demand action over a tube station bikini picture but are quiet over genuine oppression in the Middle East (for example).

 

Do I know the exact names of these people? No.

Am I going to give you the names of people I know who are like this? Also no.

 

But here:

https://www.huffingtonpost.in/deeba-abedi/how-liberals-are-letting-down-muslim-women-every-day_a_21657727/

 

(I don't usually like the Huffington Post but it's a good article.)

It is kind of like people who speak out over the birkha and defends a woman’s right to wear it (even though, it is unlikely to be by choice), but oppose walk on girls in darts, grid girls in Formula One, as well as the bikini poster you refer to. 

 

Hypocrisy is on both sides.  Many on the left are oblivious to this. 

[Thommo414]

4 hours ago, peter_hmfc said:

 

 

I don't understand people (feminists, activists, etc) who scream misogyny over the slightest "problem" yet appear to actively ignore actual oppression in foreign countries for fear of coming across as offensive (against Islam or such).

 

We all know the problem with inequality is **** all to do with a lack of women's (or any minorities) rights in some places but more that a female t.v. presenter gets paid less than a male one etc. Forgive the term but first world problems indeed

[gashauskis9]

On 03/09/2018 at 20:49, Lemongrab said:

I feel sorry for those poor, poor women.

 

In my thoughts tonight.

Hopes, prayers and stauners 

[jake]

On 03/09/2018 at 16:41, Cade said:

It was not too long ago that the UK was chemically sterilizing and jailing homosexuals.

The rest of the world may take time to catch up with modern Western values on personal freedoms.

 

 

So are you saying they are backward?

 

Quite why you have to qualify this act of barbarity and violent suppression of someone's sexuality is mind boggling and symptomatic of what Peter is on about.

 

I could list your belief in right and wrong based on political correctness

 

Two lassies caned for expression of tenderness.

 

I think we all know why.

 

[Ibrahim Tall]

Tbh, in a country where it's illegal to  then have sex "in a car in a public square" is mind numbingly stupid. 

 

The law itself on 'relations' may be backward and the punishment even more so but to break it apparently so publicly is idiotic.

 

Even in the UK if you'd face some sort of prosecution I'd imagine.

[Seymour M Hersh]

On 03/09/2018 at 18:33, Herbert said:

They should have added the caining during the lesbian show. 

 

[Seymour M Hersh]

14 hours ago, jake said:

So are you saying they are backward?

 

Quite why you have to qualify this act of barbarity and violent suppression of someone's sexuality is mind boggling and symptomatic of what Peter is on about.

 

I could list your belief in right and wrong based on political correctness

 

Two lassies caned for expression of tenderness.

 

I think we all know why.

 

 

They wouldn't let the bloke join in?