MarkDevriesScores4 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: The only positive is that the problem ( if it is the problem ) should be an easy fix in the summer...maybe. I seriously hope so but even still, that’s a whole year of owning a barely useable pitch following a big investment on the pitch. Not really acceptable at a professional football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: The only positive is that the problem ( if it is the problem ) should be an easy fix in the summer...maybe. It's a pretty big positive tbf. If we can't get it back to how it was last season at minimal cost and effort then happy days. It was like a carpet and I'm sure we'll have learned lessons from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: It's a pretty big positive tbf. If we can't get it back to how it was last season at minimal cost and effort then happy days. It was like a carpet and I'm sure we'll have learned lessons from it. If the problem is as Cruikshank says then it is an easy fix in the summer, the fibres should be fine just now it's the grass that's the issue. Not sure about the minimal cost thing though as Wolves say it is a six figure sum to take the top surface off and replace. Edited January 14, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: The only positive is that the problem ( if it is the problem ) should be an easy fix in the summer...maybe. Hearts and easy fix in the same sentence now that's encouraging. Good times ahead hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, Boris5115 said: Hearts and easy fix in the same sentence now that's encouraging. Good times ahead hopefully. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, graygo said: The orchestra thing is not the direct reason for the state of the pitch, it may have caused it indirectly but the fact is that we could probably have a concert on the pitch next week and no lasting damage would be done to the pitch. (if it was perfect now) The club did ask the manufacturers if it would be ok and were told that it would. The speculation is that having the concert meant that we did not do the proper maintenance on the pitch. I still don’t get why it couldn’t be done because of the concert. Wouldn’t it normally been done prior to the first home match, which was prior to the concert? 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, davemclaren said: I still don’t get why it couldn’t be done because of the concert. Wouldn’t it normally been done prior to the first home match, which was prior to the concert? 🤷🏼♂️ Good point, no idea then. Maybe Budge didn't fancy putting it on top of a brand new surface then took a chance that the pitch would survive without being resurfaced and it's backfired in her puss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, graygo said: If the problem is as Cruikshank says then it is an easy fix in the summer, the fibres should be fine just now it's the grass that's the issue. Not sure about the minimal cost thing though as Wolves say it is a six figure sum to take the top surface off and replace. It's money we'd be spending anyway as going by the Wolves article it should be done every year anyway. Minimal as in, not more than we should have been expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: It's money we'd be spending anyway as going by the Wolves article it should be done every year anyway. Minimal as in, not more than we should have been expecting. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: That’s what is being said in this thread. Yes mis read his post Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 13/01/2020 at 18:26, tightrope said: https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2017/07/24/getting-the-needle-to-be-pitch-perfect-at-wolves/ Looks like there is maintenance skimming at season end. Some seem to think Wolves spend a six figure sum on maintaining their hybrid pitch every year. That’s not what the article said - they spent a one off six figure sum back in 2010 mainly on the subsoil and drainage for their traditional pitch. Their hybrid pitch was installed in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Some seem to think Wolves spend a six figure sum on maintaining their hybrid pitch every year. That’s not what the article said - they spent a one off six figure sum back in 2010 mainly on the subsoil and drainage for their traditional pitch. Their hybrid pitch was installed in 2017. Yeh, I've read the article wrong. Apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: The only positive is that the problem ( if it is the problem ) should be an easy fix in the summer...maybe. Only an easy fix if we do things properly this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Regarding the mosaic, it looks more like something leeching through from behind. I'd have hoped the club sought advice on conservation from HIstoric Environment Scotland or the national museum to get this right. If not, I'd rather they approached them now than just take well meaning, but possibly not best advice from tilers (honestly no offence intended). As for the pitch...I'm thinking that's going to be 50% grass free by end of Feb. It's certainly getting worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Taffin said: Yeh, I've read the article wrong. Apologies. An easy mistake 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 hours ago, graygo said: If the problem is as Cruikshank says then it is an easy fix in the summer, the fibres should be fine just now it's the grass that's the issue. Not sure about the minimal cost thing though as Wolves say it is a six figure sum to take the top surface off and replace. That’s not what they said in the article published on here Grayco. Scarifying the surface and re-seeding is not a six figure cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 hours ago, davemclaren said: The only positive is that the problem ( if it is the problem ) should be an easy fix in the summer...maybe. So we are left with a shit pitch this season to go with our shit team - looks like Mrs Budge has to take the rap for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: So we are left with a shit pitch this season to go with our shit team - looks like Mrs Budge has to take the rap for both. If the circumstances are as described on this thread then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Something badly went wrong after the women's cup final and in between the Livingston and St Johnstone games. Here's some screen caps from highlights of the games of roughly the same area: Sun 24th Nov - Women's Cup Final Wed 4th Dec - Hearts v Livingston Sat 14th Dec - Hearts v St Johnstone Edited January 15, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, kila said: Something badly went wrong after the women's cup final and in between the Livingston and St Johnstone games. Here's some screen caps from highlights of the games of roughly the same area: Sun 24th Nov - Women's Cup Final Wed 4th Dec - Hearts v Livingston Sat 14th Dec - Hearts v St Johnstone The weather obviously got worse but that’s quite a difference, whatever is affecting it has got worse. I was hoping a few days over 10 degrees would’ve helped, I suppose we will see on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 7 hours ago, davemclaren said: I still don’t get why it couldn’t be done because of the concert. Wouldn’t it normally been done prior to the first home match, which was prior to the concert? 🤷🏼♂️ This is where I'm confused. (doesn't take much, tbf) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 hours ago, kila said: Something badly went wrong after the women's cup final and in between the Livingston and St Johnstone games. Here's some screen caps from highlights of the games of roughly the same area: Sun 24th Nov - Women's Cup Final Wed 4th Dec - Hearts v Livingston Sat 14th Dec - Hearts v St Johnstone New there was something wrong with women's football. Look what they did to the pitch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I'm still placing my money on the grounds man leaving the under soil heating on and burning the roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, johnking123 said: I'm still placing my money on the grounds man leaving the under soil heating on and burning the roots. The last pic presumably shows the underground heating pipes looping round by the corner flag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, johnking123 said: I'm still placing my money on the grounds man leaving the under soil heating on and burning the roots. I'd be surprised if there was just a switch that the groundsman turned on or off to operate the undersoil heating. Surely it would be part of the pitch monitoring system and would come on automatically as required. Not to say there couldn't be a fault in that system and it has been on when it should be off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: The weather obviously got worse but that’s quite a difference, whatever is affecting it has got worse. I was hoping a few days over 10 degrees would’ve helped, I suppose we will see on Saturday. I’ll wager this thread will only be second to the match thread come Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Coburg Hearts said: This is where I'm confused. (doesn't take much, tbf) Same! I'm remaining sceptical on the maintenance angle. The "skimming" seems to be 6-7mm effectively scarifying the top layer. Across a football pitch of 100m * 64m you are only talking 45 m3. This equates to about 30 tons. That's very small beer. Compared that to the figures that went into the pitch. The new Tynecastle Park pitch in numbers: 17,000,000 hybrid insertions 40,000 km of yarn 27 km of undersoil heating pipes 1500 tonnes of gravel 26 irrigation sprinklers 4600 tonnes of sand Looking at the video of the Toro top surface machine it's a couple of hours to do a football pitch, replacing with new top dressing would be about the same. There is 2 months to do this from the end of the season to the start of the next and another month till the concert. Another question would be why would a hybrid top surface so desperately need to be deep scarified and replaced from a newly seeded pitch just 10 months old? If it is to remove surface thatch I'm sceptical too that such an amount of thatch could develop in such a short time, the pitch is regularly mowed, brushed, loose material removed. Why would missing out this maintenance make the pitch deteriorate so precipitously at the end of November? I certanly don't have answers just questions. I'm interested as an old boy keeping his lawn under control at home, past involvement in a cricket club which meant mowing, scarifying, tining, fertilizing and any other mainternance, and involvement in club football and trying to solve pitch drainage. In all these amateur cases the grass keeps on growing and growing! 😁 Edited January 15, 2020 by RobboM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, RobboM said: Same! I'm remaining sceptical on the maintenance angle. The "skimming" seems to be 6-7mm effectively scarifying the top layer. Across a football pitch of 100m * 64m you are only talking 45 m3. This equates to about 30 tons. That's very small beer. Compared that to the figures that went into the pitch. The new Tynecastle Park pitch in numbers: 17,000,000 hybrid insertions 40,000 km of yarn 27 km of undersoil heating pipes 1500 tonnes of gravel 26 irrigation sprinklers 4600 tonnes of sand Looking at the video of the Toro top surface machine it's a couple of hours to do a football pitch, replacing with new top dressing would be about the same. There is 2 months to do this from the end of the season to the start of the next and another month till the concert. Another question would be why would a hybrid top surface so desperately need to be deep scarified and replaced from a newly seeded pitch just 10 months old? If it is to remove surface thatch I'm sceptical too that such an amount of thatch could develop in such a short time, the pitch is regularly mowed, brushed, loose material removed. Why would missing out this maintenance make the pitch deteriorate so precipitously at the end of November? I certanly don't have answers just questions. I'm interested as an old boy keeping his lawn under control at home, past involvement in a cricket club which meant mowing, scarifying, tining, fertilizing and any other mainternance, and involvement in club football and trying to solve pitch drainage. In all these amateur cases the grass keeps on growing and growing! 😁 Would have thought year two or year three before carrying out such a procedure to allow the new surface to establish itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, kila said: The last pic presumably shows the underground heating pipes looping round by the corner flag? Wrong. It's where the team did some of their pre-match warm up routine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, sac said: Would have thought year two or year three before carrying out such a procedure to allow the new surface to establish itself. Let's be honest. We're all just speculating, and uninformed speculation at that. It just seems to me more likely that something happened in Oct/Nov causing the problem rather than something NOT happening in May causing the problem 6 months later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 8 hours ago, kila said: Something badly went wrong after the women's cup final and in between the Livingston and St Johnstone games. Here's some screen caps from highlights of the games of roughly the same area: Sun 24th Nov - Women's Cup Final Wed 4th Dec - Hearts v Livingston Sat 14th Dec - Hearts v St Johnstone That's a startling difference! 😣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, kila said: The last pic presumably shows the underground heating pipes looping round by the corner flag? Thats the area they did their short sprints in the warm up Edited January 15, 2020 by Clark Griswold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said: Thats the area they did their short sprints in the warm up Concur - it was worse than that after the warm up against Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, RobboM said: Same! I'm remaining sceptical on the maintenance angle. The "skimming" seems to be 6-7mm effectively scarifying the top layer. Across a football pitch of 100m * 64m you are only talking 45 m3. This equates to about 30 tons. That's very small beer. Compared that to the figures that went into the pitch. The new Tynecastle Park pitch in numbers: 17,000,000 hybrid insertions 40,000 km of yarn 27 km of undersoil heating pipes 1500 tonnes of gravel 26 irrigation sprinklers 4600 tonnes of sand Looking at the video of the Toro top surface machine it's a couple of hours to do a football pitch, replacing with new top dressing would be about the same. There is 2 months to do this from the end of the season to the start of the next and another month till the concert. Another question would be why would a hybrid top surface so desperately need to be deep scarified and replaced from a newly seeded pitch just 10 months old? If it is to remove surface thatch I'm sceptical too that such an amount of thatch could develop in such a short time, the pitch is regularly mowed, brushed, loose material removed. Why would missing out this maintenance make the pitch deteriorate so precipitously at the end of November? I certanly don't have answers just questions. I'm interested as an old boy keeping his lawn under control at home, past involvement in a cricket club which meant mowing, scarifying, tining, fertilizing and any other mainternance, and involvement in club football and trying to solve pitch drainage. In all these amateur cases the grass keeps on growing and growing! 😁 I'm hoping it doesn't hamper the way Danny wants the team to play. It seems there are more questions than answers....... ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, RobboM said: Same! I'm remaining sceptical on the maintenance angle. The "skimming" seems to be 6-7mm effectively scarifying the top layer. Across a football pitch of 100m * 64m you are only talking 45 m3. This equates to about 30 tons. That's very small beer. Compared that to the figures that went into the pitch. The new Tynecastle Park pitch in numbers: 17,000,000 hybrid insertions 40,000 km of yarn 27 km of undersoil heating pipes 1500 tonnes of gravel 26 irrigation sprinklers 4600 tonnes of sand Looking at the video of the Toro top surface machine it's a couple of hours to do a football pitch, replacing with new top dressing would be about the same. There is 2 months to do this from the end of the season to the start of the next and another month till the concert. Another question would be why would a hybrid top surface so desperately need to be deep scarified and replaced from a newly seeded pitch just 10 months old? If it is to remove surface thatch I'm sceptical too that such an amount of thatch could develop in such a short time, the pitch is regularly mowed, brushed, loose material removed. Why would missing out this maintenance make the pitch deteriorate so precipitously at the end of November? I certanly don't have answers just questions. I'm interested as an old boy keeping his lawn under control at home, past involvement in a cricket club which meant mowing, scarifying, tining, fertilizing and any other mainternance, and involvement in club football and trying to solve pitch drainage. In all these amateur cases the grass keeps on growing and growing! 😁 For what it’s worth I used to be a member at Prestonfield golf club and theu would hollow tine the greens in the winter every year, to allow the grass room to grow. Not sure how that would work with a hybrid pitch though, some sort of that surely needs done every year if it’s 95% grass though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: For what it’s worth I used to be a member at Prestonfield golf club and theu would hollow tine the greens in the winter every year, to allow the grass room to grow. Not sure how that would work with a hybrid pitch though, some sort of that surely needs done every year if it’s 95% grass though? I think they do that to aid drainage in winter and to stop a fungus from forming underneath the green surface, rather than to aid grass growth. There's been a couple of winter greens this year and like last year they are using the two practise par 3's and taken the 2nd and 13th out of action for a rest. The practise par 3 greens are remarkably firm and durable compared to the main greens in the winter though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, kila said: I think they do that to aid drainage in winter and to stop a fungus from forming underneath the green surface, rather than to aid grass growth. There's been a couple of winter greens this year and like last year they are using the two practise par 3's and taken the 2nd and 13th out of action for a rest. The practise par 3 greens are remarkably firm and durable compared to the main greens in the winter though! Good stuff, I should’ve mentioned the fertiliser they put on a couple of times a year that the ladybirds love. They seed it too so new grass grows. Thanks for the Info, hope the club is doing well. https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/features/the-game/what-is-hollow-tining-for-67993 Edited January 15, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydog Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 i watched some of the women's cup final and remember thinking the pitch looked very ropey when they had close up camera shots. It looked fine from the main camera but brutal up close. The problem started before that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 8 hours ago, The Treasurer said: Wrong. It's where the team did some of their pre-match warm up routine. I sit down that way and there's definitely noticeable looped lines down there and it's not always the exact spot where the warm ups are done. The warm ups won't help of course but it doesn't feel like it's solely down to them. I don't think the grass has been burnt though, I don't really know what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, andydog said: i watched some of the women's cup final and remember thinking the pitch looked very ropey when they had close up camera shots. It looked fine from the main camera but brutal up close. The problem started before that game. A busy November where it got used four times, but presumably trained on too. However it is a hybrid, it can handle that. There was a similar usage over the same period last year and it was fine the entire season. I posted this earlier in the thread where I went back further before the women's cup final: On 15/12/2019 at 17:51, kila said: The run of games using the pitch: Sat 5th Oct - Hearts v Kilmarnock Thu 10th Oct - Scotland U21s Sun 20th Oct - Hearts v Rangers Sat 9th Nov - Hearts v St Mirren Fri 15th Nov - Scotland U21s Sun 17th Nov - Hearts Women Sun 24th Nov - Women's Cup Final Wed 4th Dec - Hearts v Livingston Sat 14th Dec - Hearts v St Johnstone Sat 5th Oct: Thurs 10th Oct: 20th Oct: 9th Nov: 15th Nov: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Poseidon said: I sit down that way and there's definitely noticeable looped lines down there and it's not always the exact spot where the warm ups are done. The warm ups won't help of course but it doesn't feel like it's solely down to them. I don't think the grass has been burnt though, I don't really know what it is. That mark is definitely due to the warm-ups. I watched them doing the sprints exactly there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambali Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 hours ago, kila said: The last pic presumably shows the underground heating pipes looping round by the corner flag? Thats running marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 hours ago, RobboM said: Same! I'm remaining sceptical on the maintenance angle. The "skimming" seems to be 6-7mm effectively scarifying the top layer. Across a football pitch of 100m * 64m you are only talking 45 m3. This equates to about 30 tons. That's very small beer. Compared that to the figures that went into the pitch. The new Tynecastle Park pitch in numbers: 17,000,000 hybrid insertions 40,000 km of yarn 27 km of undersoil heating pipes 1500 tonnes of gravel 26 irrigation sprinklers 4600 tonnes of sand Looking at the video of the Toro top surface machine it's a couple of hours to do a football pitch, replacing with new top dressing would be about the same. There is 2 months to do this from the end of the season to the start of the next and another month till the concert. Another question would be why would a hybrid top surface so desperately need to be deep scarified and replaced from a newly seeded pitch just 10 months old? If it is to remove surface thatch I'm sceptical too that such an amount of thatch could develop in such a short time, the pitch is regularly mowed, brushed, loose material removed. Why would missing out this maintenance make the pitch deteriorate so precipitously at the end of November? I certanly don't have answers just questions. I'm interested as an old boy keeping his lawn under control at home, past involvement in a cricket club which meant mowing, scarifying, tining, fertilizing and any other mainternance, and involvement in club football and trying to solve pitch drainage. In all these amateur cases the grass keeps on growing and growing! 😁 Forty Thousand KM’s of yarn? Almost 25,000 miles? Enough to wrap round the planets equator? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, farin said: When you see the yarn machine that was used it’s not surprising tbh. Could well be correct. 25,000 miles (40,000 KM’s) just seems a bit OTT. 40,000 Mtrs seems more likely but WTF do I know about hybrid pitches 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Forty Thousand KM’s of yarn? Almost 25,000 miles? Enough to wrap round the planets equator? Really? https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/pitch-perfect-1 Lifted from the Hearts website article on the pitch I think the 17m insertions is the biggie but (I think!) it works out every 4cm2 at about 23 cm each, the news article says 18cm below and 2 cm above so it roughly adds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, RobboM said: https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/pitch-perfect-1 Lifted from the Hearts website article on the pitch I think the 17m insertions is the biggie but (I think!) it works out every 4cm2 at about 23 cm each, the news article says 18cm below and 2 cm above so it roughly adds up. Well I’m impressed by that. Now WTF happened to it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, farin said: You know as much as 99% of us on here. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Sorry for the Aberdeen FC link (it was the first link in my search that came up with the goods), but this confirms the scale of the yarn length, in their case 45,500km. Seems incredible, doesn't it. https://www.afc.co.uk/2019/10/31/cormack-park-facts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Well I’m impressed by that. Now WTF happened to it??? Naw, you might be right Pans! Working it out the other way round 17million insertions at 20cm each = 340,000,000 centimetres = 3,400,000 metres = 3,400 km plus rounding! Maybe the company keeps repeating the mistake and it's taken Pans to call it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, RobboM said: Naw, you might be right Pans! Working it out the other way round 17million insertions at 20cm each = 340,000,000 centimetres = 3,400,000 metres = 3,400 km plus rounding! Maybe the company keeps repeating the mistake and it's taken Pans to call it out? I demand compensation!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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