williamgerrard Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Did anyone see the advertising boards on bbc alba seemingly on sale next week.Getting a bit early are they not re season tickets . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Struggling for cash, tick tock.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Seriously though, why shouldn't season tickets be on sale at this time If it makes it easier for people to buy one, then all's good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Next seasons?? I’ve not even used this seasons yet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 A fair amount of current occupants had the day off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Remember past criticism of early ST sales at Hibs and during the Vlad era? It will be different now no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Remember past criticism of early ST sales at Hibs and during the Vlad era? It will be different now no doubt. Will we be biased towards HMFC! Incredible, on a Hearts fans forum. Who’d have guessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Clerry Jambo said: Seriously though, why shouldn't season tickets be on sale at this time If it makes it easier for people to buy one, then all's good! Went on sale May last 2 seasons. I personally was not expecting anything different this season, so it hasn’t made it easier for me to buy one. Quite the opposite. Take it we need the money to finish the stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: Will we be biased towards HMFC! Incredible, on a Hearts fans forum. Who’d have guessed. Apparently some were not biased towards Hearts during the Vlad era when early sales were criticised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, amadjambo said: Went on sale May last 2 seasons. I personally was not expecting anything different this season, so it hasn’t made it easier for me to buy one. Quite the opposite. Take it we need the money to finish the stand? Certainly won't make it easier if the deadline for renewing for your own seat is also brought forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Francis Albert said: Certainly won't make it easier if the deadline for renewing for your own seat is also brought forward. Yep. My first thought today when I saw the advert was how long a renewal period we will have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) In fact in what way does selling two months early make it easier to buy an ST? Edited March 18, 2018 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 If sales are disappointing by the time the transfer window opens that certainly sends a message to the board about what they need to be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, amadjambo said: Yep. My first thought today when I saw the advert was how long a renewal period we will have. What did the advert actually say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: What did the advert actually say? ST’s on sale in 1 week. was on the advertising boards in front of main stand. Edited March 18, 2018 by amadjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, amadjambo said: ST’s on sale in 1 week. was on the advertising boards in front of main stand. That explains it. I'm in the Main Stand! A bit shit though. I was budgeting April/May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: In fact in what way does selling two months early make it easier to buy an ST? Dynamic pricing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Good. I was critical of last season's timing because I felt that they should have been on sale earlier - when there were still home games for people to pick them up in person. This year there will be three, or perhaps four, home games for people to go into the office. I accept this may not suit everyone, and may, indeed, be an unpopular viewpoint, but I think it makes a lot of sense logistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, King Of The Cat Cafe said: Good. I was critical of last season's timing because I felt that they should have been on sale earlier - when there were still home games for people to pick them up in person. This year there will be three, or perhaps four, home games for people to go into the office. I accept this may not suit everyone, and may, indeed, be an unpopular viewpoint, but I think it makes a lot of sense logistically. There’s nothing to pick up though, certainly not if you are renewing. So I don’t understand your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, amadjambo said: There’s nothing to pick up though, certainly not if you are renewing. So I don’t understand your point. Certainly had to get new cards last year. Makes it easier to hand over cash/cheque in the office when we would be at Tynecastle anyway, instead of having to make a special trip in, or even a phone call or letter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartan74 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 As long as the deadline for renewal isn’t brought forward then I see no issue in this, in fact if we still have the same kind of timescale to renew till, what was it, mid June or whatever it was, then it might give some people a little bit of an extra saving period to buy knowing they are already on sale. And yes I do know that we all know that season tickets are on sale end of May normally so should have funds in place but each persons financial circumstances are different and by having them on sale now might just suit some more than others so I don’t see any issue in this. And if say 10k renew before June then that’s finance in place to help build a squad we are all crying out for instead of waiting till the window is open. Well done Mrs Budge and Hearts, forward thinking ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Surely the need for the cash is a more likely explanation than "forward thinking" by Ann? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Personally got the cash burning a hole in my pocket so it's probably better the club have it. In fact the club should be selling them all year round. I'd probably buy more when full of the bevvy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Certainly won't make it easier if the deadline for renewing for your own seat is also brought forward. Jumping the gun a bit. We dont even know when the deadline will be chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Apparently some were not biased towards Hearts during the Vlad era when early sales were criticised. Aye, because the financial management now is comparable to then. Comparing bananas and tampons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Oliver Twist said: Personally got the cash burning a hole in my pocket so it's probably better the club have it. In fact the club should be selling them all year round. I'd probably buy more when full of the bevvy. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Jumping the gun a bit. We dont even know when the deadline will be chap. That's why I used the word "if". I admit I am putting two and two together (unprecedented I know on JKB) but since we know we are short of funds for completion of the new stand and we know the only specific commitment on timing made by Ann in her recent Sun interview was to complete the nursery for handover by June there may be a link between bringing forward cash from ST sales from May to March and ongoing cash requirements for the stand project. In fact I am struggling to think of another explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: That's why I used the word "if". I admit I am putting two and two together (unprecedented I know on JKB) but since we know we are short of funds for completion of the new stand and we know the only specific commitment on timing made by Ann in her recent Sun interview was to complete the nursery for handover by June there may be a link between bringing forward cash from ST sales from May to March and ongoing cash requirements for the stand project. In fact I am struggling to think of another explanation. Needs the cash for the Gallons of Moratti I guzzled in the Directors Suite yesterday. Me = sooking the club dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: That's why I used the word "if". I admit I am putting two and two together (unprecedented I know on JKB) but since we know we are short of funds for completion of the new stand and we know the only specific commitment on timing made by Ann in her recent Sun interview was to complete the nursery for handover by June there may be a link between bringing forward cash from ST sales from May to March and ongoing cash requirements for the stand project. In fact I am struggling to think of another explanation. If that is the case, that we need the cash earlier to finish the stand, how will be able to fund up to 10 players of the quality we need to progress?? The ST income represents the main bulk of our gate money for the season and, of course, has to be used to fund our on going expenses, including the 12 remaining contracted players. Edited March 18, 2018 by Enzo Chiefo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Last year on sale 15 May http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/5931 I vaguely remember something like this last season where there was a vague "going on sale" advert then nothing happened. Edited March 18, 2018 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Simple marketing the longer you have something on sale the more you are likely to sell. Say for example we beat hibs at Tynecastle next month it could urge many to purchase who were swaying due to the feel good factor it brings. I don't understand why after the season ticket sale period is over the club don't put bigger ties that are later in the season up for sale, Hibs, Celtic, Rangers. Allows many (particularly overseas fans) to plan months ahead and gives us a better chance of selling out with the increased capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, Gorgie_Rules said: Simple marketing the longer you have something on sale the more you are likely to sell. Say for example we beat hibs at Tynecastle next month it could urge many to purchase who were swaying due to the feel good factor it brings. I don't understand why after the season ticket sale period is over the club don't put bigger ties that are later in the season up for sale, Hibs, Celtic, Rangers. Allows many (particularly overseas fans) to plan months ahead and gives us a better chance of selling out with the increased capacity. Possibly they like to wait till fixtures are confirmed re tv changes. To avoid the hassle of people getting refunds. But agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gorgie_Rules said: Simple marketing the longer you have something on sale the more you are likely to sell. Say for example we beat hibs at Tynecastle next month it could urge many to purchase who were swaying due to the feel good factor it brings. I don't understand why after the season ticket sale period is over the club don't put bigger ties that are later in the season up for sale, Hibs, Celtic, Rangers. Allows many (particularly overseas fans) to plan months ahead and gives us a better chance of selling out with the increased capacity. Sadly tv gets involved and the dates change making it impossible for the long distancers to plan to far ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Possibly they like to wait till fixtures are confirmed re tv changes. To avoid the hassle of people getting refunds. But agree. Guess so, perhaps tickets could be sold with the disclaimer that the date is likely to change with tickets not produced until confirmed. Not sure if that is possible but I am pretty sure I have heard that Hibs put their derby tickets on sale at the start of the season, basically guaranteeing a sell out regardless of how the team is performing at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Gorgie_Rules said: Simple marketing the longer you have something on sale the more you are likely to sell. Say for example we beat hibs at Tynecastle next month it could urge many to purchase who were swaying due to the feel good factor it brings. I don't understand why after the season ticket sale period is over the club don't put bigger ties that are later in the season up for sale, Hibs, Celtic, Rangers. Allows many (particularly overseas fans) to plan months ahead and gives us a better chance of selling out with the increased capacity. Diffcult to put games on sale too early when you don't know if times and dates for games are going to be altered for TV. As for the games towards the end of the season clubs do not know who and when they will be playing because of the split. As for the timing of the ST sales as long as the end of the reserved period is not affected I don't see anything to bother about. Unless of course people are just looking for things to bitching about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, luckydug said: Diffcult to put games on sale too early when you don't know if times and dates for games are going to be altered for TV. As for the games towards the end of the season clubs do not know who and when they will be playing because of the split. As for the timing of the ST sales as long as the end of the reserved period is not affected I don't see anything to bother about. Unless of course people are just looking for things to bitching about. Or they are just reacting to people saying it is just Ann looking after the fans and/or "brilliant marketing", which to me sounds like nonsense. However if it is the best way of managing cash flow which clearly is an issue with the stand cost over-run, then fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Out Attack Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I see nothing wrong with putting season tickets on sale in the near future. It could backfire of course if we don't show up well in our remaining games, but that is always a chance you take. I think the key question here that a lot of people will now ask is; what will this season ticket money be spent on. It has to go towards the squad, where we are a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: If that is the case, that we need the cash earlier to finish the stand, how will be able to fund up to 10 players of the quality we need to progress?? The ST income represents the main bulk of our gate money for the season and, of course, has to be used to fund our on going expenses, including the 12 remaining contracted players. The sort of questions that were asked when Vlad did it. We didn't realise at the time that it was for our bnefit and a brilliant marketing initiative! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Anything been released regarding pricing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, All Out Attack said: I see nothing wrong with putting season tickets on sale in the near future. It could backfire of course if we don't show up well in our remaining games, but that is always a chance you take. I think the key question here that a lot of people will now ask is; what will this season ticket money be spent on. It has to go towards the squad, where we are a shambles. The transfer window won't open for another three months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Out Attack Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Francis Albert said: The transfer window won't open for another three months. That doesn't change anything though does it. What will this crucial money be spent on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, All Out Attack said: That doesn't change anything though does it. What will this crucial money be spent on. Bringing forward sales of STs, which is what this is about, won't in itself change the funds available for use during the transfer window and on the wages of new signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, jonnothejambo said: Pre contracts with players out of contract in the summer can be duscussed / agreed now. It has been intimated elsewhere that the manager has started on this process. Do we pay for these pre-contracts up front? (Genuine question) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, All Out Attack said: I see nothing wrong with putting season tickets on sale in the near future. It could backfire of course if we don't show up well in our remaining games, but that is always a chance you take. I think the key question here that a lot of people will now ask is; what will this season ticket money be spent on. It has to go towards the squad, where we are a shambles. Season ticket money is just general invome with some of it going to squad builfing and some going to other things drip fed throughout the Season as per our planned budget. Our planned budget seams to include signing quite a few players, according to recent statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 FFS the club can't win on here can they? If they sell them in May folk moan because they wanted more time to save up. If they sell them in March folk moan because they didn't expect to pay until May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 So apart from the OP has anyone seen this ad? Cant say I noticed it at the game. The only one that rver catches my eye is the bright pink one that looks like theres a dog walking infront if it. Couldnt tell you what its for though as my eyes follow fido. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Out Attack Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Season ticket money is just general invome with some of it going to squad builfing and some going to other things drip fed throughout the Season as per our planned budget. Our planned budget seams to include signing quite a few players, according to recent statements. Of course, that's how it should work. I notice however you avoided mentioning the new stand in your comments on what it will be spent on though. I think an up front comment from Budge, indicating the path ahead and what the money will be spent on, would work wonders in helping to sell them. She must know that many supporters, in the real world, are not happy about where the club is at the moment, especially on the football side. Some positive leadership can really help in pull us together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, The Natural Order said: FFS the club can't win on here can they? If they sell them in May folk moan because they wanted more time to save up. If they sell them in March folk moan because they didn't expect to pay until May. Did anyone moan about the lack of time to save up last year? Or for that matter praise Vlad for giving us more time to save up. The "more time to save up" argument is just an invention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Whenever the tickets are released one thing is certain. The Pricing needs to be good. The loyal fan base has stood firm throughout the last few seasons and it is imperative it stays that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Season ticket money is just general invome with some of it going to squad builfing and some going to other things drip fed throughout the Season as per our planned budget. Our planned budget seams to include signing quite a few players, according to recent statements. All true but I think it is fair to say that bringing forward ST sales is usually due to cash shortfalls needed to be met in the current season. That was certainly the case with Vlad and I am sure we have attributed this reason to Hibs and other clubs in the past. If this is the reason then unless you repeat the exercise in subsequent seasons this will impact on funds available next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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