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18 hours ago, bobsharp said:

Watched a 22 year olds father on TV. The poor man was in tears and of course shocked. The kid sounded like a good young man. Umpire in his friends baseball league, was in the final stages of recruitment into the army. His dad said his last words to the boy when he was going out was don't drink and drive and I love you. He is gone no army, no baseball,no more I love yous,  won't be there for his sisters impending visit.  For many years I wondered how people handled losing a child, I unfortunately found out, no matter how old they are , what they do, they are still just your child, I admit when I listened to that poor broken hearted father, I had to wipe a tear from my eye, he is in for hell.

So, so sad that, Bob.

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The gunman said before/during the attack:

 

"It's too bad I won't get to see all the illogical and pathetic reasons people will put in my mouth as to why I did it," he wrote at 11:24 p.m., according to documents obtained by ABC News. "Fact is I had no reason to do it, and I just thought... life is boring so why not?"

 

"Yeah... I'm insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is 'hopes and prayers' ... or 'keep you in my thoughts' ... every time... and wonder why these keep happening."

 

So in other words, no real motivation, he just got bored and thought screw it... now 12 people are dead.

 

Also (entirely unrelated to the Borderline Bar shooting but still relevant to the OP), in Tennessee: "A Tennessee man was arrested Wednesday after he flew into a rage over an Xbox video game and fired over a dozen rounds from two different handguns into his bedroom ceiling and walls, a report said."

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Whoopsy-doodle. Unlucky Trump et al.

 

Gunman opens fire inside an Illinois bar leaving 4 injured, as an armed security guard attempts to resolve the situation. Responding police officers turn up and fatally shoot the armed guard thinking he's the gunman.

 

"A 26-year-old bouncer at a Robbins night club was fatally shot by a Midlothian police officer early Sunday, authorities said.

Midlothian police said one of their officers -- who was called to assist Robbins police -- fatally shot bouncer Jemel Roberson after entering the bar and seeing him holding a gun.

Midlothian police Chief Dan Delaney said: "Upon arrival officers learned there were several gunshot victims inside the bar. A Midlothian Officer encountered a subject with a gun and was involved in an Officer involved shooting. The subject the Officer shot was later pronounced deceased at an area hospital"

Roberson was an organist at New Spiritual Light Baptist Church in Chicago.

"How in the world does the security guard get shot by police?" asked the church's pastor, Walter Turner. "A young man that was literally doing his job and now he's gone." "

 

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SectionDJambo

And the Donald wants armed guards everywhere so that the police can mix them up with the nutter gunmen in the future too.

Too many people with guns, whatever their need to have them, just increases the chance of tragic mistakes.

As has happened to the young security guard.

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I'm sure he was just one those mentally ill types. no big deal. 

 

Edit - just seen 3 of the people wounded in this have now died. A police officer, a newly graduated pharmacist and a doctor. Gunman was in a relationship with the doctor. 

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To be fair in this instance the doctors should probably have had a pistol of some sort in their scrubs beside the stethoscope.

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1 minute ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

Shooting at a mall in Alabama. An 18 year old and a 12 year old were shot, police show up and shoot a black guy dead. Turns out he wasn't the shooter and the real shooter is still at large. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46333970

 

As is normal there are conflicting stories, one news report I seen here states that it is true that the now dead man was not the actual shooter, but the incident that was described as a fight involved more than one person, this now dead individual is reported to have been  in possession of a handgun and was allegedly involved in the dispute. It is a sad fact in the States that if you are in an area where possibl;e police attendance at a shooting incident is anticipated, the last thing you want to do is be seen with a firearm visible on your person or even worse in your hand. I agree totally that a death sentence is severe punishment, but I am also waiting for further clarification on this now dead young man's actions and participation if any.

 

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1 hour ago, bobsharp said:

 

As is normal there are conflicting stories, one news report I seen here states that it is true that the now dead man was not the actual shooter, but the incident that was described as a fight involved more than one person, this now dead individual is reported to have been  in possession of a handgun and was allegedly involved in the dispute. It is a sad fact in the States that if you are in an area where possibl;e police attendance at a shooting incident is anticipated, the last thing you want to do is be seen with a firearm visible on your person or even worse in your hand. I agree totally that a death sentence is severe punishment, but I am also waiting for further clarification on this now dead young man's actions and participation if any.

 

 

But but but they could be the good guy with the gun, you know like Trump thinks should be in every school, every church, every shop, every street corner.

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/5-killed-5-police-officers-wounded-in-us-mass-shooting-11249000

 

The 5th mass-murder of the year in the USA (an average of one every 9 days).

 

Not an immigrant who snuck over the border, not a Muslim refugee, an average American who got laid off then went back with avengence.

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17 minutes ago, peter_hmfc said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/5-killed-5-police-officers-wounded-in-us-mass-shooting-11249000

 

The 5th mass-murder of the year in the USA (an average of one every 9 days).

 

Not an immigrant who snuck over the border, not a Muslim refugee, an average American who got laid off then went back with avengence.

 

Easy solution for the US authorities: ban the laying off of people.

 

Or build walls around places of employment. I can't figure out which would be more effective.

 

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2 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Easy solution for the US authorities: ban the laying off of people.

 

Or build walls around places of employment. I can't figure out which would be more effective.

 

 

Hire an armed guard every time you sack someone.

 

Ban violent video games.

 

There's not enough God in the workplace.

 

If all else fails, it's okay because someone was stabbed in the UK so somehow that means it doesn't count.

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1 minute ago, peter_hmfc said:

 

Hire an armed guard every time you sack someone.

 

Ban violent video games.

 

There's not enough God in the workplace.

 

If all else fails, it's okay because someone was stabbed in the UK so somehow that means it doesn't count.

 

Hey, fancy getting together and setting up a consultancy/lobbying firm in the US? We've both got some great ideas and I think they would be very popular over there. :)

 

Actually, thinking more about it, it might be safer to place any laid-off employees in prison so that they can cool off for a while and get rid of any murderous revenge-type thoughts.

 

Oh, and while we're at it, films like Falling Down (and probably any revenge movies for that matter) should definitely be banned in the US - they're giving people bad ideas.

 

Ah, being pro-gun must be so much fun. You get to use your imagination in so many interesting creative ways.

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Five policemen wounded when they went in almost immediately. The Illinois Governor, the Mayor of the City, commend the bravery of the police who answered the call went where the bullets were flying and done their duty. Coincedentally couple of days after the first anniversary of the Parkland School shootings. Hearings are in progress regarding police actions there, the Sheriff has been suspended as a result of his departments poor follow ups about c omplaints regarding the shooter, and the Deputy who failed to do his duty is refusing to attend the hearings, and is being sued for neglect of duty by one of the parents. His lawyer does say that his cowardice is not the subject of the law suit the failure to do his duty is. I find it interesting the word coward is used quite liberally in stories when referring to him. Even President Trump called him directly a coward, and he should know one if he sees one.

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A shooting at a Texas shopping mall has ended in "multiple fatalities", local officials say.
The shooting happened at Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso, just a few miles from the US-Mexico border.
At least 22 people have arrived at local hospitals for treatment for their injuries.
One person is in custody, and police did not believe there were multiple gunmen, a spokesperson said, but was unable to provide casualty figures. 
"We don't want to do anything prematurely until we have accurate facts for you,"  Sergeant Robert Gomez said, declining to provide details on the injured.
First reports of a shooting emerged at around 11:00 local time (18:00 GMT).
There were reports of gunfire in several locations - in both the Cielo Vista mall and the nearby Walmart, police said - but reports of further gunshots at another nearby mall, Bassett, were not true.

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'At least 18 dead' after 'gunman armed with an assault rifle' opens fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, sending panicked shoppers fleeing before SWAT respond and arrest a 21-year-old’

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Bystander in the shop who pulled out his own gun on his way out to the car park damn near got himself killed by the police as they thought he was the shooter making a break for it.

 

Place is fecking mental.

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35 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said:

'At least 18 dead' after 'gunman armed with an assault rifle' opens fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, sending panicked shoppers fleeing before SWAT respond and arrest a 21-year-old’

 

Reports of numbers coming in

 

 

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As Cade says the place is mental. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now. I doubt these mass killings will ever end. 

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Another senseless tragedy

 

Mr Trump will no doubt try to spin it as another reason for arming more people

 

He'll fail to take any responsibilty for anything and remember his tweets re London and the mayor...….he'll never accept blame whilst trying to tell everyone else in the world how to do things

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11 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

Another senseless tragedy

 

Mr Trump will no doubt try to spin it as another reason for arming more people

 

He'll fail to take any responsibilty for anything and remember his tweets re London and the mayor...….he'll never accept blame whilst trying to tell everyone else in the world how to do things

The US never had mass shootings before Trump. And if it had, previous Presidents would have done something about them. 

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Again the suspect left some manifesto about what he was going to do, difficult situation for police who are trained to go in ignore dead and dying and confront the shooter, extremely difficult task in Texas where carrying a gun in full view is permitted. Statistics I see a few minutes ago state fourteen dead, forty injured, packed Walmart with back to school sales in progress. Twenty one year old arrested another person being held but no information on why.Again people will be told about family just doing what we do and that as a result suddenly they are gone, my thoughts are with those families.

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17 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said:

As Cade says the place is mental. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now. I doubt these mass killings will ever end. 

 

The answer is of course, to give everyone guns. More guns. Big ****in monster guns that can bring down helicopters or take out tanks.

 

Then the bad folk with guns wont do anything because the good folk with guns will be able to shoot them.

 

USA, USA...

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2 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

The US never had mass shootings before Trump. And if it had, previous Presidents would have done something about them. 

 

Just my opinion but this is not the time for apportioning blame in any direction other than the animal who pulled the trigger. The rest can come later.

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Gun laws in America are quite frankly perverse. Seriously what is it going to take before the laws are changed? The people that run that country and make laws need to see the head doctor 

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Another right wing mutant. Quelle surprise.

 

Was nice to see the cops arrest him peaceably, however. Perhaps they stopped for Burger King for this guy too.

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2 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said:

Another right wing mutant. Quelle surprise.

 

Was nice to see the cops arrest him peaceably, however. Perhaps they stopped for Burger King for this guy too.

 

Remember the OJ Simpson Bronco in 94. Let him drive back to his mansion with a police escort and then decide if he wanted to come down town for questioning.

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There are two teenagers on the run in Canada after shooting and killing three people, a gang member was gunned down and killed yesterday, there have been a number of shootings in thls near past, a man is just being tried for killing with a rifle a policeman two years ago, he defence are arguing that no motive was prsented in the evidence. Canada has strong firearms rules, but its easy to obtain illegal weapons many coming over the border. I have to contribute in some way its not the guns that kill its the person pulling the trigger.i

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7 minutes ago, Barack said:

"In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political and economic reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.”

 

The El Paso shooter.

 

Reads like a Trump tweet.  

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14 minutes ago, bobsharp said:

 

Just my opinion but this is not the time for apportioning blame in any direction other than the animal who pulled the trigger. The rest can come later.

Agree. That was pretty much my point.

Except that the one that pulled the trigger was all too human.

As for making anti-Trump political capital out of it ... 

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4 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

 

Reads like a Trump tweet.  

Far too many words and far too coherent and grammatically correct. OK just as crazy.

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3 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

Far too many words and far too coherent and grammatically correct. OK just as crazy.

 

True dat. 

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1 hour ago, Dannie Boy said:

As Cade says the place is mental. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now. I doubt these mass killings will ever end. 

 

Though by far more die in domestic accidents 

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At least 15 confirmed dead by the Attorney General, putting it as the 10th worst mass-shooting in US history.

 

Strong reports say 19+ dead, police seem cagey with the numbers.

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3 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

This is not the time to talk about gun control etc. 

 

Trump posted a heated-up condolences Tweet then literally less than 15 minutes later he started posting about UFC.

 

Priorities.

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Jambo-Jimbo

America will never learn nor change.

 

Meanwhile the now to often standard response of our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, but now is not the time to talk about gun controls.

 

Another day and reports of another shooting this time in Dayton, Ohio.

No doubts and it's sad to say this but the standard our thoughts and prayers blah blah fecking blah will get trotted out yet again.

 

Then tomorrow or the next day or next week, guess what, there'll be more thoughts and prayers going out to the victims and it'll still not be the right time to talk about gun controls.

 

They will never learn or change.

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A view that US doesn't take the problem seriously. Though a little unfair on Trump etc who just wants to help people. 

 

 

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