Rab Mac52 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Two more traditional pubs gone in Corstorphine in recent months. Centurion has the shutters up. The Oak has closed and reopened as the Torfin - a gastro pub similar to so many. The Terrace, formerly the Carrick Knowe, has sent a flyer round saying "We Are Not Closed", possibly more to do with the disruption caused by roadworks. Very few traditional pubs for us old geezers. Only one in the West End area is Mathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 The Dodger will be heaving soon. Seems to be the only one that avoids the axe in the West of the toon...:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, Rab Mac52 said: Two more traditional pubs gone in Corstorphine in recent months. Centurion has the shutters up. The Oak has closed and reopened as the Torfin - a gastro pub similar to so many. The Terrace, formerly the Carrick Knowe, has sent a flyer round saying "We Are Not Closed", possibly more to do with the disruption caused by roadworks. Very few traditional pubs for us old geezers. Only one in the West End area is Mathers. You've still got Winstons and the front bar of the Corrie. This was always going to happen though when Wetherspoons moved in to the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Rothstein Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 The Torfin is a massive improvement on The Oak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Mac52 Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Never have liked Winstons. Possibly goes back to pre smoking ban and the fact it had low ceilings. Was in the Corrie for the Scotland game. It was mobbed but fine. Torfin is a big improvement on the Oak. Maybe I was being a bit too negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Anyone got any info on the Centurion closing? Did hear that they had spent £70k on the recent refurbishment and attracted no new trade and have chosen liquidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal Kingston Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 The working mans boozer is disappearing. It's sad but not unexpected. People just aren't drinking as much anymore. I remember when I first started working the lunchtime pint was obligatory. Nobody does that now. Sad to see people making Whetherspoons their local but you can see why. The Foot of the Walk sell Tennents for £2.55 a jar. Hard for independent pubs to compete with that. People don't have that loyalty anymore. If you drink 20 pints a week you'd save £20+ going to Wetherspoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, Regal Kingston said: The working mans boozer is disappearing. It's sad but not unexpected. People just aren't drinking as much anymore. I remember when I first started working the lunchtime pint was obligatory. Nobody does that now. Sad to see people making Whetherspoons their local but you can see why. The Foot of the Walk sell Tennents for £2.55 a jar. Hard for independent pubs to compete with that. People don't have that loyalty anymore. If you drink 20 pints a week you'd save £20+ going to Wetherspoons. FotW is only £1.99 for Magners or £2.20 for Strongbow. In the 4 pubs nearest me (just before you hit Portobello) that's between £3.40 and £4.30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Regal Kingston said: The working mans boozer is disappearing. It's sad but not unexpected. People just aren't drinking as much anymore. I remember when I first started working the lunchtime pint was obligatory. Nobody does that now. Sad to see people making Whetherspoons their local but you can see why. The Foot of the Walk sell Tennents for £2.55 a jar. Hard for independent pubs to compete with that. People don't have that loyalty anymore. If you drink 20 pints a week you'd save £20+ going to Wetherspoons. A pint of deuchars in dalkeith Witherspoon's is £1.99. A real ale is £2.15. Shite pub but great prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Regal Kingston said: The working mans boozer is disappearing. It's sad but not unexpected. People just aren't drinking as much anymore. I remember when I first started working the lunchtime pint was obligatory. Nobody does that now. Sad to see people making Whetherspoons their local but you can see why. The Foot of the Walk sell Tennents for £2.55 a jar. Hard for independent pubs to compete with that. People don't have that loyalty anymore. If you drink 20 pints a week you'd save £20+ going to Wetherspoons. There was a time when drinking 20 pints a week woulda seemed perfectly reasonable to me. But these days, you're probably lucky if I've had 20 pints this year never mind this week. Times are changing - and these days theres a bigger market for fancy coffee's and such like than there is for alcohol. Looking at the bigger picture, its probably no bad thing, but its still pretty sad to see the pub trade going the way it is - I cant really criticise though as I'm part of that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corstojohn Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 11 hours ago, Arnold Rothstein said: The Torfin is a massive improvement on The Oak. This. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Overheard someone in Thomson's the other night saying the Etterick Hotel is closing! Everything being sold off. Anyone know if this is true. Edited October 11, 2017 by Stuart Lyon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Saw something mentioned about The Etterick closing mentioned on here last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, SUTOL said: Saw something mentioned about The Etterick closing mentioned on here last week. Yep. Real shame. Been my pre match local for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said: Overheard someone in Thomson's the other night saying the Etterick Hotel is closing! Everything being sold off. Anyone know if this is true. Heard that also, don't go in there much nowadays but the Kilted Pug is now the only pub in that area and the prices reflect that. Gillsland, Orwell lodge, Centre Court and now The Etrrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Pig not pug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 52 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said: Overheard someone in Thomson's the other night saying the Etterick Hotel is closing! Everything being sold off. Anyone know if this is true. It was in the Evening News a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan socrates Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Good news, far too many of these drinking galleries in edinburgh as it is, how many of edinburghs buildings need to be dedicated to this shameful drug use, its been clearly proven over time that our society cannot be responsible with drink, my mother will be cremated today because of drink the more shut downs the better, scummy activity that ruins lives now get the ****ing coffee shops opened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Stuart Lyon said: Overheard someone in Thomson's the other night saying the Etterick Hotel is closing! Everything being sold off. Anyone know if this is true. I knew it had planning permission ............ for flats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 14 hours ago, Debut 4 said: The Dodger will be heaving soon. Seems to be the only one that avoids the axe in the West of the toon...:lol: must be doing well I heard they bought Diannes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 hours ago, zoltan socrates said: Good news, far too many of these drinking galleries in edinburgh as it is, how many of edinburghs buildings need to be dedicated to this shameful drug use, its been clearly proven over time that our society cannot be responsible with drink, my mother will be cremated today because of drink the more shut downs the better, scummy activity that ruins lives now get the ****ing coffee shops opened You must be fun at parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 hours ago, the general said: must be doing well I heard they bought Diannes Have they? Not heard that. wonder if that means an insurance job on the Dodger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Growing up around Corstorphine we had a wide selection of watering holes, changed times. Barnton - gone Mid Yoken - still going? Clermiston - still going Rainbow - gone Maybury (public bar) - gone Swiss Cottage and other names - gone Centurion - currently gone Harp - now a carvery unsure if it has a bar as such Crammond Inn - eatery Oak - going on reports above improved Winstons - still going Corstorphine inn - still going Carrick knowe - still going Dorlin - gone Struan - gone White wetherspoons Lady - NEW Did I miss any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Growing up around Corstorphine we had a wide selection of watering holes, changed times. Barnton - gone Mid Yoken - still going? Clermiston - still going Rainbow - gone Maybury (public bar) - gone Swiss Cottage and other names - gone Centurion - currently gone Harp - now a carvery unsure if it has a bar as such Crammond Inn - eatery Oak - going on reports above improved Winstons - still going Corstorphine inn - still going Carrick knowe - still going Dorlin - gone Struan - gone White wetherspoons Lady - NEW Did I miss any? What was the name of the pub just down from the Barnton at the row of shops before the Golf Course opposite the Bank of Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Mac52 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 57 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Growing up around Corstorphine we had a wide selection of watering holes, changed times. Barnton - gone Mid Yoken - still going? Clermiston - still going Rainbow - gone Maybury (public bar) - gone Swiss Cottage and other names - gone Centurion - currently gone Harp - now a carvery unsure if it has a bar as such Crammond Inn - eatery Oak - going on reports above improved Winstons - still going Corstorphine inn - still going Carrick knowe - still going Dorlin - gone Struan - gone White wetherspoons Lady - NEW Did I miss any? Well remembered for all of these. Did the White Lady not start out as Westbury's and then became the Alphabet and finally The Agenda before Wetherspoons took it over? It was originally a house and then Dingwall's Furniture shop and finally The Village - almost like market stalls before Westbury's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) I remembered it's Dingwalls and some awful multi occupancy thing my mum and gran dragged me round, think Westbury was after my misspent youth. Edited October 11, 2017 by The Frenchman Returns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan socrates Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, SteauaNeedarest said: You must be fun at parties. Aye coz pished folk are such fun, fine if you live in a tiny box universe, 2 weeks in benidorm and a ruby every 2nd friday aye? Cannae miss eastenders though eh bog standard, the pinnacle /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deid Heid Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Was out and about in TollX last Friday. Burlington Berties has been shut for 6 weeks. The Auld Toll is now some horrid wine bar. Ended up in the Lochrin (Kings Arms?), it was Great! Proper Pub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Mac52 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said: I remembered it's Dingwalls and some awful multi occupancy thing my mum and gran dragged me round, think Westbury was after my misspent youth. I well remember my son returning from Westbury's after a night having found Aftershock. He was possibly under the legal age for the consumption of alcohol in licensed premises and was carried by some friends who were slightly less inebriated but still pie eyed. He managed to throw up in just about every room in the house except the loo. Mrs Rab refused to clean it up referring to the fact that his father had introduced him to booze. Following day, a most contrite and hungover young Rab, presented his proud father with a box of Quality Street. Took me three days to realise that they were half price in the local shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Rab Mac52 said: Well remembered for all of these. Did the White Lady not start out as Westbury's and then became the Alphabet and finally The Agenda before Wetherspoons took it over? It was originally a house and then Dingwall's Furniture shop and finally The Village - almost like market stalls before Westbury's. The White Lady is an improvement. The Agenda had a fair bit of bother from what I remember. Davidsons Mains is an area which has gone downhill in the past 10 years in terms of pubs. The Norhet is now the best of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 hours ago, SteauaNeedarest said: You must be fun at parties. Maybe read the last sentence of the first paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Rab Mac52 said: I well remember my son returning from Westbury's after a night having found Aftershock. He was possibly under the legal age for the consumption of alcohol in licensed premises and was carried by some friends who were slightly less inebriated but still pie eyed. He managed to throw up in just about every room in the house except the loo. Mrs Rab refused to clean it up referring to the fact that his father had introduced him to booze. Following day, a most contrite and hungover young Rab, presented his proud father with a box of Quality Street. Took me three days to realise that they were half price in the local shop. Westbury's defo had a bit of a reputation for the underagers around that time. Woulda been around 97/98 I spent a bit of time in there Ironically, I had a similar after shock experience around the same time, having drank a full bottle of the stuff at a house party........ that was not pleasant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Radio Ga Ga - pub down from the Barnton was the Fountain Inn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 14 hours ago, Radio Ga Ga said: What was the name of the pub just down from the Barnton at the row of shops before the Golf Course opposite the Bank of Scotland Fountain, you went upstairs to it, was in there with a lovely looking lass then boasted about the 7 odd pints that i downed in there as we walked up the road, not suprisingly she never went out with me again. At 18 you live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 58 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Fountain, you went upstairs to it, was in there with a lovely looking lass then boasted about the 7 odd pints that i downed in there as we walked up the road, not suprisingly she never went out with me again. At 18 you live and learn. I worked there 78-79. Great days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 minute ago, hydeparkhearts said: I worked there 78-79. Great days. probably about the time i was in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 09:11, zoltan socrates said: Good news, far too many of these drinking galleries in edinburgh as it is, how many of edinburghs buildings need to be dedicated to this shameful drug use, its been clearly proven over time that our society cannot be responsible with drink, my mother will be cremated today because of drink the more shut downs the better, scummy activity that ruins lives now get the ****ing coffee shops opened Yes let's fuel the obesity crisis by opening more coffee and cake places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan socrates Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Yes let's fuel the obesity crisis by opening more coffee and cake places. Riiiiight then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 58 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Yes let's fuel the obesity crisis by opening more coffee and cake places. Coffee isn't fattening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Coffee isn't fattening. Sticky Buns are Dont get the guy who stated that pub. closures are good because of alcoholism. If you've got a drink problem I'd assume that buying dirt cheap booze from supermarket would be your first point of call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Sticky Buns are Dont get the guy who stated that pub. closures are good because of alcoholism. If you've got a drink problem I'd assume that buying dirt cheap booze from supermarket would be your first point of call? But coffee isn't. Seems a bit obtuse mentioning it. To be fair, I've just Sat down for tapas and got an unbelievably brilliant red wine. Edited October 12, 2017 by Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 49 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Coffee isn't fattening. Maybe not black coffee but if you go to Starbucks and get any large size (20oz) coffee then it will contain more calories than a pint of lager and that's before any sugar is added! For example a large salted caramel moccha is 480 calories compared to 180 calories in a pint of lager so yes coffee can be fattening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 09:11, zoltan socrates said: Good news, far too many of these drinking galleries in edinburgh as it is, how many of edinburghs buildings need to be dedicated to this shameful drug use, its been clearly proven over time that our society cannot be responsible with drink, my mother will be cremated today because of drink the more shut downs the better, scummy activity that ruins lives now get the ****ing coffee shops opened I'm not sure that pubs are the problem. It's the fact that you can go into any off licence in the country, and walk out with 3 litres of cider for under a fiver that's the issue, or bottles of horrible things like Buckfast being swilled around like water. Cheap, poor quality, but high strength products are the problem. Pubs are part of society, but we really need to start treating alcohol with a bit more respect, and prices should reflect that. It would be shit, but if a pack of 4 cans of beer out of the supermarket were, say, £8 instead of £4, I know that I would drink a lot less than I do right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ribble said: Maybe not black coffee but if you go to Starbucks and get any large size (20oz) coffee then it will contain more calories than a pint of lager and that's before any sugar is added! For example a large salted caramel moccha is 480 calories compared to 180 calories in a pint of lager so yes coffee can be fattening! Personally, I take mine black and I'm not into pastries/cakes. Coffee isn't the problem. It's fat *******s don't understand a healthy diet and people who don't know when to stop drinking. That's part of the problem Strachan's genetics statement, I think it's down to diet. People in this country think eating 5 fruit and veg a day is difficult. It's isn't, it's easy. Just lay off the pies and cakes and drink responsibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, tian447 said: I'm not sure that pubs are the problem. It's the fact that you can go into any off licence in the country, and walk out with 3 litres of cider for under a fiver that's the issue, or bottles of horrible things like Buckfast being swilled around like water. Cheap, poor quality, but high strength products are the problem. Pubs are part of society, but we really need to start treating alcohol with a bit more respect, and prices should reflect that. It would be shit, but if a pack of 4 cans of beer out of the supermarket were, say, £8 instead of £4, I know that I would drink a lot less than I do right now. I'd regulate who gets a licence, maybe even go the whole hog and be like Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Harry Potter said: probably about the time i was in. Probably know you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Boris said: I'd regulate who gets a licence, maybe even go the whole hog and be like Sweden. Educate don't legislate. Pubs = Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, hydeparkhearts said: Probably know you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, hydeparkhearts said: Educate don't legislate. Pubs = Jobs The Swedish system would make pubs busier, given the off licence shuts at 7pm (or thereabouts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 09:28, the general said: The Family from the dodger are NOT buying Diane’s ( unsuccessful bid) . It is being bought by Malones , a Glasgow pub co who used have a pub in Forrest Road a while ago . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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