The Mighty Thor Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 School is back in tomorrow which will be interesting given that Farage's collection of chancers is polling well. That'll turn the screw a fair bit on May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Francis Albert said: On the first point ... we shall see. Well in my case I suppose later generations will see. I think your view is based more on hope than any real evidence or even much argument. In what might be considered the golden age of capitalism only a tiny minority of people had any sort of pot to piss in. A tendency to move rightwards and to become more conservative was still apparent (as I think has been the case in many different societies). Also, I am not sure the relative poverty that most people suffer when they become "old age pensioners" results in much of a reversal or even moderation of that tendency. In your reply to SE16. as for the "colossal majority of today's elderly having benefitted enormously from the post war settlement ... I am not sure that is true either. My parents generation were better off than they were in the 30s (not "a big ask" as we say today), they didn't have to pay for their teeth and spectacles or for medical treatment, they were rehoused (although in what came to be new slums for old) but they were still poor by today's standards. They never ate out (nor with any great variety at home), holidays were "days out", a caravan in North Berwick, or just once a week in Morecambe (contrast the young of today's horror that there might be some (imagined) restriction on their freedom to travel freely in Europe) and even a single landline phone only appeared when the first of the children left home. And we were by no means poor by the standards of the time. It was evil old capitalism that delivered modern consumer benefits like cars, washing machines, fridges, TVs, proper holidays and the many other material benefits that most people enjoy and indeed take for granted today. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Ooft. You're a right patronising, arsey, kent when the mood takes you, Justin. In my defence, I try to limit it to people who are intentionally being ****ing knobs like this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Justin Z said: In my defence, I try to limit it to people who are intentionally being ****ing knobs like this one. No need to defend yourself, buddy. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Ann Widdecombe Dear God! FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 With any luck the bible bashing virgin gets f****d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: With any luck the bible bashing virgin gets f****d. She has, with an ugly stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: She has, with an ugly stick. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 22/04/2019 at 03:09, shaun.lawson said: Not any more it won't. Today's young or merely today's under-50s won't head rightwards as they get older. And you know why? Because they haven't got a pot to piss in. Capitalism does not work when people have no access to capital. In order to have done so, someone would need to be aged at least 92. Maths not your strong point, I take it? The colossal majority of today's elderly benefited, enormously, from the postwar settlement. Then they went on to vote for Thatcher, and Blair, and Cameron, and May: dismantling that settlement and pulling the ladder up behind them. Buying social housing and renting it out at ridiculous rates; destroying the housing market in terms of both buying and renting. And Brexit was their final **** you to the young. Not all old people, certainly. But far, far, far too many of them. Not sure what its got to do with maths but the the actual quote included "or suffered hardships during that fight". Selective use of quotations is a key tactic of the right as I'm sure you know. Are you really blaming the elderly for Blair, Cameron and May ?? The majority of people who voted Brexit were not elderly although that will be a surprise to the euthanasia proponents on here. It seems you need a scapegoat for life's ills Shaun and I can't help you with that. In the meantime I'll stick by my belief that a society who doesn't care for the elderly cares for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: In the meantime I'll stick by my belief that a society who doesn't care for the elderly cares for nothing. Welcome to post no deal brexit Britain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 PM TM attempting to have a 4th vote on her deal by removing the backstop from her deal. Even though she can't do that. Coz it's a legal backstop. To prevent the UK from breaching the GFA. Which is a UN registered peace treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cade said: PM TM attempting to have a 4th vote on her deal by removing the backstop from her deal. Even though she can't do that. Coz it's a legal backstop. To prevent the UK from breaching the GFA. Which is a UN registered peace treaty. The jkb equivalent of saying Candyman in the mirror three times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Smithee said: The jkb equivalent of saying Candyman in the mirror three times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Smithee said: The jkb equivalent of saying Candyman in the mirror three times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Boris said: Welcome to post no deal brexit Britain! Been happening for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie1957 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Thank the E U for the protection of freedom.The NAZI Tory party cannot handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Julie1957 said: Thank the E U for the protection of freedom.The NAZI Tory party cannot handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Julie1957 said: Thank the E U for the protection of freedom.The NAZI Tory party cannot handle it. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 19/04/2019 at 16:29, Francis Albert said: I said I was wrong. What do you want? Ritual disemboweling? He probably would. Turned quite nasty has Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, jake said: He probably would. Turned quite nasty has Z. Jake’s back!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Cade said: PM TM attempting to have a 4th vote on her deal by removing the backstop from her deal. Even though she can't do that. Coz it's a legal backstop. To prevent the UK from breaching the GFA. Which is a UN registered peace treaty. Border controls between NI and the ROI would be a terrible idea but would not breach the GFA. I have been waiting in vain for anyone to point to the terms of the GFA which they would breach. I will go on waiting because there are no such terms. Border controls might well be "inconsistent with the spirit of the GFA" and risk upsetting the "delicate balance of peace" etc (although the New IRA seem to have got in first) but they would not breach the terms of the "UN registered peace treaty". If you read for example Irish PM Varadkar's words on the subject carefully he does not explicitly say they would breach the GFA. If the absence of any border controls was already a part of a legally binding treaty registered at the UN and enforceable in international law why is the "back stop" necessary? Why would the back stop be more enforceable than the terms of an already supposedly existing obligation under a binding international treaty? As I have said before loose talk of the UK breaching the terms of the GFA plays into the hands of the New IRA and indirectly to their equivalent extremists on the Unionist side. Edited April 25, 2019 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, Morgan said: Jake’s back!! I am. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, jake said: I am. ? Good lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Morgan said: Jake’s back!! Back but still in need of laying off the sauce, seeing as I didn't even make that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Back but still in need of laying off the sauce, seeing as I didn't even make that post. Welcome back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin Z said: Back but still in need of laying off the sauce, seeing as I didn't even make that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Justin Z said: Back but still in need of laying off the sauce, seeing as I didn't even make that post. Welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: 3 hours ago, shaun.lawson said: Welcome back So, you two are back as well? Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Morgan said: Welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, Morgan said: So, you two are back as well? Brilliant! If only we could get Deeside back too. I miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: If only we could get Deeside back too. I miss him. What happened to him/her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What happened to him/her? Got a ton of abuse, walked away. If you're out there deeside, come back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: Got a ton of abuse, walked away. If you're out there deeside, come back! Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Morgan said: So, you two are back as well? Brilliant! No, he quoted FA, answer to me, and powered JZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Got my EU polling card yesterday. Can't wait to vote. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Yougov poll Scotland in Unions own survation poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 26/04/2019 at 04:30, Justin Z said: Back but still in need of laying off the sauce, seeing as I didn't even make that post. I find some of your posting especially but not exclusive to FA quite nasty at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Yougov poll Scotland in Unions own survation poll Wagging your tail about a YouGov poll ? Meanwhile the reality says your vote is meaningless. And should worry those who voted for independence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, jake said: Wagging your tail about a YouGov poll ? Meanwhile the reality says your vote is meaningless. And should worry those who voted for independence . Whatever you say Jake. Brexit has worked a treat for Scottish independence. SNP set to amass over 50 MPs in a snap G.E, amass around 75 seats in coalition with the Greens at Holyrood. And now the Yes vote is gathering pace. 49% and rising. Oh and the currency debate is dealt with. I love British Nationalism! Edited April 28, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, jake said: I find some of your posting especially but not exclusive to FA quite nasty at times. Eh, but I tend to not express explicit support for avowed racists in my posts either, so it's all a wash in the end, eh Jake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Eh, but I tend to not express explicit support for avowed racists in my posts either, so it's all a wash in the end, eh Jake? That old chestnut. That lazy old chestnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, jake said: That old chestnut. That lazy old chestnut You know what is actually lazy? The chestnut about waahhh look how intolerant you're being towards intolerance. ****ing right I get nasty. And if that's upset somebody who expresses approval of racists, I'm doing something right. Because one of these two issues is actually nasty. What you're bitching about? That ain't it, chief. Edited April 28, 2019 by Justin Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Justin Z said: You know what is actually lazy? The chestnut about waahhh look how intolerant you're being towards intolerance. ****ing right I get nasty. And if that's upset somebody who expresses approval of racists, I'm doing something right. Because one of these two issues is actually nasty. What you're bitching about? That ain't it, chief. Show me a FA post which is intolerant. And I'm not upset. You seem intolerant of different views. And lazily retort with racist much in the way your little pal retorts to me regarding 9/11. And the alky druggie patter. Must be cosy being up yer ain arse though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblick1874 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 The Bush family are on record telling everyone that the Clinton bunch and whatever the Obama bunch are, are family. Go look it up. There was a scumbag that backed the Nazis to the hilt that had a son who became the head of the CIA and then the President of the United States of America and his grandson became the President of the United States of America. Who was that? Prescott Bush. I invite you to have a look. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar Then there was operation paperclip. https://www.history.com/news/what-was-operation-paperclip Thousands of scum along with their research (including those that had everything to do with the education system that churned out Nazi after Nazi.) were spread out all over the place, including Britain. Now let us have a look at who took us into Europe, but before we do let me just add this. I realize most don't have the time. That is why I am putting it in a 1+1=2 way and all those that will follow with their yer but no but yer but no are not going by facts. the truth may be to scary for some but that doesn't change the facts. If all else makes no sense and all you are left with is the ridicules, the ridicules is the truth. Scary shit, but there it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblick1874 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Hi Jake ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Good to remember how daft people like Leadsom look when discussing their wish lists for trade against actual experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Seems some aren't getting their message out to the public too successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 How has 5% of folk thought that UKIP are pro-Europe and 3% thought that the Brexit party is pro-EU? People are thick as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cade said: How has 5% of folk thought that UKIP are pro-Europe and 3% thought that the Brexit party is pro-EU? People are thick as Looks like 2% thought the Brexit party was neither for nor against Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Smithee said: Looks like 2% thought the Brexit party was neither for nor against Brexit. And 8% thought the same for the Lib Dems & the Greens. Some scary figures there, like 28% didn't know if the SNP were pro or anti Brexit and 3% thought they were pro-brexit & 5% thought the Lib Dems were pro-brexit as well. Then again we are dealing with the public here, and having dealt with them I can confirm that there is a sizable % that are as thick as two short planks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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