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6 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

So you only believe you're own sources. That's cool :thumbsup:

 

All sources are not created equal, the express ffs

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2 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:


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A rather poor effort.

Anyway I'm on O2 and if the robbing barstewards want to rip us off theres loads of ways we can beat them.

 

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14 minutes ago, Ked said:

A rather poor effort.

Anyway I'm on O2 and if the robbing barstewards want to rip us off theres loads of ways we can beat them.

 


Another benefit of Brexit and the wonderful trade deal we negotiated 🙄

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9 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:


Another benefit of Brexit and the wonderful trade deal we negotiated 🙄

I think you will find that you can make your own deal 

It's very easy when you dont rely on mummy or mummy state.

Theres a guid boy.

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7 hours ago, Ked said:

I think you will find that you can make your own deal 

It's very easy when you dont rely on mummy or mummy state.

Theres a guid boy.

😈


What are you talking about?

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10 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

 

Nobody has come back and countered what the Express is claiming though 


Nobody needs to. The best counter against an Express story is to let time prove it wrong.

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4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Love those wee laughing imojis :lol:

Nobody has come back and countered what the Express is claiming though 

 

They claim that some bankers not wanting the damaging effects of Brexit to be implemented "vindicates Brexit".

If you like emojis you're gonna love this 

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What are the EU going to do? Grant all UK banks the passports they need to operate in the EU without anything in return? :rofl:

 

What will probably happen is that the clearing houses and derivatives operations will move to Frankfurt.

The main reason that the City of London was doing all this stuff was because it formed a bridge between EU and USA and both parties were doing their banking here.

 

Now that the UK has no deal with the USA and a Hard Brexit deal with the EU, that convenient buffer no longer exists.

 

 

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Direct shipping between Ireland and the EU is up 52% in the last year.

Dublin to Holyhead and Liverpool is down 19%.

Rosslare to Pembroke and Fishguard is down 30%.

They're just going around the UK rather than deal with the new Hard Brexit red tape.

 

Hauliers in Northern Ireland are no longer shipping goods to Ireland to use the short Dublin/Holyhead route to reach markets in the Home Counties of south-east England.

They're shipping directly to the UK mainland through the three ports in Northern Ireland.

Belfast is up 15% in volume of goods shipped.

Larne 18% and Warrenpoint 20%.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Love those wee laughing imojis :lol:

Nobody has come back and countered what the Express is claiming though 

 

Why would anyone counter it? You can tell the difference between quote and editorial right?

 

But okay - they're talking shit.

 

 

Now, what do the named quotes say that make you so convinced?

 

You're surely not dumb enough to be convinced by their radge editorial stance and to unthinkingly absorb it as your own opinion without even looking for what the quotes actually say are you?

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1 hour ago, Smithee said:

 

Why would anyone counter it? You can tell the difference between quote and editorial right?

 

But okay - they're talking shit.

 

 

Now, what do the named quotes say that make you so convinced?

 

You're surely not dumb enough to be convinced by their radge editorial stance and to unthinkingly absorb it as your own opinion without even looking for what the quotes actually say are you?

The article would have been TL;DR but the headline would have been attractive.

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16 hours ago, Tazio said:

I can’t be bothered dredging all the way through this but I’ve just renewed my phone contract on EE and noticed that free roaming in the EU on EE stops in January 2022. 

This might be a way around it, he starts explaining the problems etc around the 50 second mark.
 

 

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The Express again!

 

Apparently Itchy Bawsack is a 'low tax Tory'. Of course you are champ. Tax is only the highest its been for 50 years. Maybe he means low tax if your money is in an offshore tax haven? 🤷‍♂️

 

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22 hours ago, Cade said:

Direct shipping between Ireland and the EU is up 52% in the last year.

Dublin to Holyhead and Liverpool is down 19%.

Rosslare to Pembroke and Fishguard is down 30%.

They're just going around the UK rather than deal with the new Hard Brexit red tape.

 

Hauliers in Northern Ireland are no longer shipping goods to Ireland to use the short Dublin/Holyhead route to reach markets in the Home Counties of south-east England.

They're shipping directly to the UK mainland through the three ports in Northern Ireland.

Belfast is up 15% in volume of goods shipped.

Larne 18% and Warrenpoint 20%.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

The Express again!

 

Apparently Itchy Bawsack is a 'low tax Tory'. Of course you are champ. Tax is only the highest its been for 50 years. Maybe he means low tax if your money is in an offshore tax haven? 🤷‍♂️

 

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Even Nucky Lovelace will have trouble swallowing that

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21 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

:biggrin2: Here's another piece from the Express with plenty of quotes for you

 

Nissan deal: Huge benefits of leaving EU hailed after historic move with Japan | UK | News | Express.co.uk

 

 

 

 

As ever, that comic misses out much of the picture. For example, if Brexit was going to be so wonderful for Nissan, why did they decide to close down their Barcelona plant at the 11th hour instead of Sunderland? How much money did the government secretly pledge to Nissan shortly after the referendum vote was known? Why was it kept secret? Add to the mix the critical nature of Nissans electric cars and need for batteries, the U.K. government adds to the taxpayer burden by granting Nissan yet another £150 million of our cash for the Nissan battery plant.

 

So Brexit is a “success” for Nissan in many ways because we are paying them hundreds of millions to stay here. Contrast that with the other car manufacturers who got nowt like Honda at Swindon - closed down.

 

And as Renault own almost half of Nissan, who are partially owned by the French government, the U.K. government is subsiding the French government, just as we are doing by chucking millions of Pounds to them for ‘managing’ the Channel for us!


So much winning.:vrface:

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32 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

:biggrin2: Here's another piece from the Express with plenty of quotes for you

 

Nissan deal: Huge benefits of leaving EU hailed after historic move with Japan | UK | News | Express.co.uk

 

 

 

 


Had a quick read of the article and it definitely could be argued this decision from Nissan should allay some fears about damage done by Brexit. It’s unclear though whether this decision/investment would have been equally possible without Brexit?

 

So positive in the sense Brexit may be slightly less of a shitstorm as feared but not really positive in the sense that Brexit enabled this investment? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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On 30/11/2021 at 07:59, Nucky Thompson said:

Love those wee laughing imojis :lol:

Nobody has come back and countered what the Express is claiming though 

 

Nobody has to.  The Express just makes up shit about Europe and hopes that it sticks.

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In the last 36 hours or so, two Irish senior government members have said there will be no deal on the NI Protocol until after Christmas.  At the same time, the Financial Times has apparently reported that the Americans are delaying a deal to remove tariffs on UK imports imposed by the Trump administration because of concerns about the UK's stance on the Protocol (I say apparently because it's behind a paywall).

 

RTÉ: US delaying UK trade deal over post-Brexit concerns - report

 

 

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11 hours ago, Ulysses said:

In the last 36 hours or so, two Irish senior government members have said there will be no deal on the NI Protocol until after Christmas.  At the same time, the Financial Times has apparently reported that the Americans are delaying a deal to remove tariffs on UK imports imposed by the Trump administration because of concerns about the UK's stance on the Protocol (I say apparently because it's behind a paywall).

 

RTÉ: US delaying UK trade deal over post-Brexit concerns - report

 

 

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Let’s no let the fallout of Brexit slip under the radar! 
 

Whatever happened to the special relationship? It doesn’t seem to be worth as much these days. Not since we left the EU. The international trade secretary Anne-Marie Trevelyan has finished three days of talks in Washington without any sign of a transatlantic trade pact – or any success getting the Biden administration to drop Trump-era tariffs on steel. Trevelyan has plenty of work to do on other post-Brexit deals. The government is well short of its target to have 80 per cent of UK trade covered by free trade agreements, according to a National Audit Office report – which warned against negotiators getting “stretched too thin” in the rush to achieve more accords in 2022. Speaking of 2022, small businesses have been told to get ready for new customs checks coming into force on 1 January, amid growing fears of further supply chain chaos in the new year. 
 

Delays to cross-Channel trade are still worsening almost a year after Brexit checks came in, says a study also highlighting rising costs and key staff shunning the UK.

No less than 79 per cent of firms trading with France reported hold-ups in the three months to September – crucially, 6 per cent more than in the second quarter of the year.

The delays are also lengthening, with 42 per cent of businesses taking an additional two to three weeks to import goods compared to 28 per cent in the April-June period.

Some 82 per cent of firms say logistic costs have risen for imports and 43 per cent for exports, the survey by the French Chamber of Great Britain found.

And 30 per cent cut staff “directly as a result of Brexit” – some reporting problems in “attracting European talent to the UK”, following the divorce from the EU.

 

Boris Johnson claimed they were just “teething problems” when traders hit trouble at the start of 2021, but the French Chamber has warned of “potentially serious supply chain issues” that threaten Christmas deliveries.

 

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https://apple.news/Aeg0zMASZTti4-21_Beb6hQ
 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s trade performance is lagging increasingly behind that of other similar economies, according to data that suggest Brexit has had a detrimental effect on exports, on top of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Britain is the only Group of Seven advanced economy to have failed to regain the level of goods exports seen in late 2018, according to official data published by each country, including British data on Friday.

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And in other news, reports are emerging that the UK is shifting position significantly on the issue of the role of the European Court of Justice in governance of disputes relating to the NI Protocol, while emphasising the need to deal with practical issues (which according to NI business representatives have already been completely addressed in EU proposals).  However, David Frost still referred to the ECJ in a comment today. 

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Need to give Brexs*it another 49 years to yield any benefits according to JRM. If only that statement had been on the side of the bus instead, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Oh well.

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I do love how fast "ADMIRAL BORIS' NAVAL WAR AGAINST THE FROGGOS" has disappeared off the front pages.

 

EU threatened legal action, UK and Jersey suddenly start handing out permits to French boats like sweeties.

 

:rofl:

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2 hours ago, Cade said:

I do love how fast "ADMIRAL BORIS' NAVAL WAR AGAINST THE FROGGOS" has disappeared off the front pages.

 

EU threatened legal action, UK and Jersey suddenly start handing out permits to French boats like sweeties.

 

:rofl:

 

Some French fishermen are still planning a blockade.  :laugh:

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8 hours ago, Smithee said:

It was a chess move 🤣

A few memorable quotes from that speech.

"What sort of country declares its independence and puts its faith in democracy..."  ?

Not Austraria, Canada India etc . Just  Britain & America !  🙃

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Yep as above. Rats fleeing the stinking sinking ship of fools.

 

Brexit minister Lord Frost walks out on Boris: Panic in No10 as PM's key ally quits, saying he's 'disillusioned' with the Government's Covid Plan B restrictions, vaccine passports, tax hikes and the cost of Net Zero green agenda.

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