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Tynecastlesmychurch

Berra, Mulgrew, Russell, Leahy, Mannus, Alan, Crawford, Sibbald, Boyce, Lafferty.

and Ryan Gauld on loan!

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DxB Hearts

If you look at how well Aberdeen have progressed under McInnes look at their signings - picking up the guys doing well at other clubs, released from Celtic and a couple of lower league English players. Rarely do they sign some unheard of European player.

 

That's not to say we shouldn't sign guys from Europe, some of our greatest players have come from the continent but it can't be en-mass.

 

Look at the players going well in Scotland, Scottish players looking for a move back here after being in England for a while and some very well scouted guys from Europe who are looking for a move to British football. If you get that blend right you're laughing but we haven't in a long time taken a player from the likes of ICT, Hamilton etc and others have benefited.

 

Even if you look at the core of the Celtic team that has just torn the arse out of the league - Gordon, Brown, Armstrong, Griffiths, Tierney, Forrest, GMS all Scottish players, most of who have come from 'other' Scottish prem teams.

 

We need to sign players from other premiership sides. Have to. Pick the best of of the lower leagues and then someone looking for a route back into 1st team football after playing in England. Add 1 Rudi type European signing and that'll be perfect.

 

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JamboAl

If you look at how well Aberdeen have progressed under McInnes look at their signings - picking up the guys doing well at other clubs, released from Celtic and a couple of lower league English players. Rarely do they sign some unheard of European player.

 

That's not to say we shouldn't sign guys from Europe, some of our greatest players have come from the continent but it can't be en-mass.

 

Look at the players going well in Scotland, Scottish players looking for a move back here after being in England for a while and some very well scouted guys from Europe who are looking for a move to British football. If you get that blend right you're laughing but we haven't in a long time taken a player from the likes of ICT, Hamilton etc and others have benefited.

 

Even if you look at the core of the Celtic team that has just torn the arse out of the league - Gordon, Brown, Armstrong, Griffiths, Tierney, Forrest, GMS all Scottish players, most of who have come from 'other' Scottish prem teams.

 

We need to sign players from other premiership sides. Have to. Pick the best of of the lower leagues and then someone looking for a route back into 1st team football after playing in England. Add 1 Rudi type European signing and that'll be perfect.

 

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Did you realise our club nearly died 3 years ago and we are gradually getting back on our feet?

And our recruitment policy is in the process of being revamped.

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DxB Hearts

Did you realise our club nearly died 3 years ago and we are gradually getting back on our feet?

And our recruitment policy is in the process of being revamped.

I'm perfectly aware of that.

 

All I'm pointing out is we need more Souttars are less Avlonitis'

 

This is a frustration that goes back to Pieman days.

 

Need to start flexing our muscle as the 3rd biggest club in Scotland, who are situated in the best city in Scotland. Any player playing for another prem club bar Celtic, Aberdeen and Rangers would jump at the chance to play at Hearts and out signing policy should take more advantage of that IMO.

 

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Jamboscanbevicius

Have to agree with this. It's a fair point about rebuilding to an extent, but look at the guys Aberdeen have picked up...

 

McLean, Shinnie, Rooney, Hayes, McGinn, Tansey (for next season)... all these guys have excelled!

 

And look at our recent successes in the market: Cowie, Souttar, Isma all knew the league.

 

We need to be careful though. There are also Sammons, Suttons, and Hanmils out there!!!

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Cheile

An over 30 year old I would think might "do a job" is Danny Grainger. Knows the club and takes a mean penalty.

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JamboAl

I'm perfectly aware of that.

 

All I'm pointing out is we need more Souttars are less Avlonitis'

 

This is a frustration that goes back to Pieman days.

 

Need to start flexing our muscle as the 3rd biggest club in Scotland, who are situated in the best city in Scotland. Any player playing for another prem club bar Celtic, Aberdeen and Rangers would jump at the chance to play at Hearts and out signing policy should take more advantage of that IMO.

 

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Going back from now to the Pieman days we signed some decent foreigners too and if the likes of Skacel, Fyssas, Jankauskas, Bednar, Pospisil etc were in the team now would you be offering the same advice.

We need a team with the best players we can afford wherever they come from,

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graygo

If you look at how well Aberdeen have progressed under McInnes look at their signings - picking up the guys doing well at other clubs, released from Celtic and a couple of lower league English players. Rarely do they sign some unheard of European player.

 

That's not to say we shouldn't sign guys from Europe, some of our greatest players have come from the continent but it can't be en-mass.

 

Look at the players going well in Scotland, Scottish players looking for a move back here after being in England for a while and some very well scouted guys from Europe who are looking for a move to British football. If you get that blend right you're laughing but we haven't in a long time taken a player from the likes of ICT, Hamilton etc and others have benefited.

 

Even if you look at the core of the Celtic team that has just torn the arse out of the league - Gordon, Brown, Armstrong, Griffiths, Tierney, Forrest, GMS all Scottish players, most of who have come from 'other' Scottish prem teams.

 

We need to sign players from other premiership sides. Have to. Pick the best of of the lower leagues and then someone looking for a route back into 1st team football after playing in England. Add 1 Rudi type European signing and that'll be perfect.

 

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Gordon was signed from Sunderland.

Brown I'll give you but he cost about ?4million

Armstrong and GMS cost Celtic ?2million plus addons.

Griffiths cost ?1million quid and even then it was from Wolves

Tierney came through the youth system at Celtic.

Forest came through the youth system at Celtic.

 

Kind of makes your "most of whom have come from other Scottish prem teams" look less than accurate.

 

Of the ones that did come from Scottish prem teams we could not afford the fees involved nor the salaries.

 

I kind of get your point though,

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Captain America

An over 30 year old I would think might "do a job" is Danny Grainger. Knows the club and takes a mean penalty.

Can't see him moving. 

 

Captain at his home town club. I have a feeling Carlisle will be his last club. He signed new one year deal pretty recent. 

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Sir Gio

I'm perfectly aware of that.

 

All I'm pointing out is we need more Souttars are less Avlonitis'

 

This is a frustration that goes back to Pieman days.

 

Need to start flexing our muscle as the 3rd biggest club in Scotland, who are situated in the best city in Scotland. Any player playing for another prem club bar Celtic, Aberdeen and Rangers would jump at the chance to play at Hearts and out signing policy should take more advantage of that IMO.

 

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Avlonitis was 6 months cover that was available, like a lot of the January signings. This window will be very different and far more beneficial.

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JamboAl

Gordon was signed from Sunderland.

Brown I'll give you but he cost about ?4million

Armstrong and GMS cost Celtic ?2million plus addons.

Griffiths cost ?1million quid and even then it was from Wolves

Tierney came through the youth system at Celtic.

Forest came through the youth system at Celtic.

 

Kind of makes your "most of whom have come from other Scottish prem teams" look less than accurate.

 

Of the ones that did come from Scottish prem teams we could not afford the fees involved nor the salaries.

 

I kind of get your point though,

You should think shame of yourself putting facts in the way of a good moan. 

To be fair they all had good knowledge of the SPL but where we were going to get ?7m, 3 years after admin, for Brown, Armstrong, GMS and Griffiths is an answer I am dying to hear.

I may add that when Celtic signed Gordon many had doubts about his fitness which in hindsight have proved unfounded.  Signing players with question marks over their fitness is something Kickback has panned the club for.

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kimosavi

So to sum up and 17 pages in nobody has a clue who we are after bar Berra

 

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wavydavy

Did you realise our club nearly died 3 years ago and we are gradually getting back on our feet?

And our recruitment policy is in the process of being revamped.

 

How many times does this get brought up. Do you seriously think that there is a Hearts fan anywhere in the world who is not aware of this fact.

 

The point that the poster is making is our signing policy and why we have adopted the approach we have.

 

Our DOF has had three years in his role and how come it is only now that he is reviewing the signing policy?

 

It takes time to make up for the failures of the past agreed but that does not excuse the failings we have had in the transfer market to date. They more than outway the positive ones.

 

To his credit he has re-vamped the youth recruitment but as we all know that takes time to see the benefits and it is always a gamble with the younger age groups as very few every make it all the way through to the first team.

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Jodami

The club seem to be pretty adept at keeping signings under wraps so really not concerned about the lack of press speculation.

 

What is starting to worry me is selling the club to potential signings. It only takes a little effort to find out we are in a deep rut and additional things like the Johnsen episode this week, irrespective of who's to blame, only make us look more shambolic. We have not exactly set the heather on fire developing players we have signed and you wonder what the general opinion is of us among players and agents at the moment.

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JamboAl

How many times does this get brought up. Do you seriously think that there is a Hearts fan anywhere in the world who is not aware of this fact.

 

The point that the poster is making is our signing policy and why we have adopted the approach we have.

 

Our DOF has had three years in his role and how come it is only now that he is reviewing the signing policy?

 

It takes time to make up for the failures of the past agreed but that does not excuse the failings we have had in the transfer market to date. They more than outway the positive ones.

 

To his credit he has re-vamped the youth recruitment but as we all know that takes time to see the benefits and it is always a gamble with the younger age groups as very few every make it all the way through to the first team.

It gets brought up every time people voice unrealistic expectations of the club and will continue to be brought up in those circumstances whether you like it or not - it is fact!

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession re the DoF.  Did he trample in your flower beds or possibly even worse?

We set out 3 years ago shopping around in the basement bargain dept and took risks with players who maybe had fitness and attitude doubts.  Overall it has not paid off but did serve a purpose.  I am hoping the revamp is because these days are behind us and we are moving upmarket.  Time will tell.

What I do know is your continuous moaning and groaning will achieve nothing

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wavydavy

It gets brought up every time people voice unrealistic expectations of the club and will continue to be brought up in those circumstances whether you like it or not - it is fact!

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession re the DoF.  Did he trample in your flower beds or possibly even worse?

We set out 3 years ago shopping around in the basement bargain dept and took risks with players who maybe had fitness and attitude doubts.  Overall it has not paid off but did serve a purpose.  I am hoping the revamp is because these days are behind us and we are moving upmarket.  Time will tell.

What I do know is your continuous moaning and groaning will achieve nothing

 

Shopping around the "Bargain Basement" is what St Johnstone do and have done successfully for some time now. We haven't beaten them away since 2012 incidentally.

 

Do you really think that their wage budget is anything like ours?

 

You say I am moaning and groaning but when you reply in the fashion you do what is that exactly other than moaning at me.

 

This is a forum for fans to air their views and just because we don't all agree doesn't make one right and the other wrong.

 

We obviously have different opinions and in our own eyes we think we are right so let's just leave it at that.

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Bridge of Djoum

So to sum up and 17 pages in nobody has a clue who we are after bar Berra

 

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Says the wee laddie who spent most of his time on this thread throwing in random names.

 

Brilliant.

 

 

 

On topic, I think our summer recruitment will be very shrewd. I believe Cathro is being given time because January windows are notoriously difficult, and most of the signings we made were stop gap. Not ideal, granted, but it is what it is. This time there will be more focus on the quality and how they fit into the system and style IC wants to adopt.

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Mikey1874

Please don't sign Kyle Lafferty. Decent player, yes, but I'd find it hard to suppport such an absolute welt.

Austin MacPhee was fairly negative about him at the meet the management event.

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soonbe110

Berra and Allan to be announced early next week.

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Phil D. Corners

So to sum up and 17 pages in nobody has a clue who we are after bar Berra

 

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TBF even Berra is not a done deal.

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JAMMY1980

Berra and Allan to be announced early next week.

How decent is your source?

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Bridge of Djoum

TBF even Berra is not a done deal.

True. He is the closest to being so, though.

 

Apparently.

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HMFC86

His auld mans a jambo fae Gorgie

Allan was a Hearts fan at school. Years at Ibrox changed that mind. Zero chance of him coming to Hearts.

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Tasavallan

Edinburgh boy to boot....

Another Hutchie lad.

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alicante jambo

Allan was a Hearts fan at school. Years at Ibrox changed that mind. Zero chance of him coming to Hearts.

Who are we talking about here bud scott allan?

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HMFC86

Who are we talking about here bud scott allan?

McGregor

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wavydavy

Who are we talking about here bud scott allan?

 

I think it's McGregor the goalkeeper he's on about.

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kimosavi

Says the wee laddie who spent most of his time on this thread throwing in random names.

 

Brilliant.

 

 

 

On topic, I think our summer recruitment will be very shrewd. I believe Cathro is being given time because January windows are notoriously difficult, and most of the signings we made were stop gap. Not ideal, granted, but it is what it is. This time there will be more focus on the quality and how they fit into the system and style IC wants to adopt.

wee laddie rofl

 

Any hoo

 

POTENTIAL - having or showing the capacity to develop into something in the future.

 

The post does read potential signings Princess x

 

You have contributed nothing but drivel in your post. Keep up eh

 

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Bridge of Djoum

wee laddie rofl

 

Any hoo

 

POTENTIAL - having or showing the capacity to develop into something in the future.

 

The post does read potential signings Princess x

 

You have contributed nothing but drivel in your post. Keep up eh

 

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You very clearly missed out the important word, ''rumours''.

 

The names you threw in were not rumours. Just who you thought we should sign.

 

 

Ok, Princess?

 

 

 

 

PS. Please stop following me on Tapatalk. That's just creepy. 

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kimosavi

You very clearly missed out the important word, ''rumours''.

 

The names you threw in were not rumours. Just who you thought we should sign.

 

 

Ok, Princess?

 

 

 

 

PS. Please stop following me on Tapatalk. That's just creepy.

...........more drivel

 

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Bridge of Djoum

...........more drivel

 

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No, you are most assuredly following me on Tapatalk.

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kimosavi

You very clearly missed out the important word, ''rumours''.

 

The names you threw in were not rumours. Just who you thought we should sign.

 

 

Ok, Princess?

 

 

 

 

PS. Please stop following me on Tapatalk. That's just creepy.

You clearly dont know that when you reply to someone on tapatalk it AUTOMATICALLY follows the person you have replied to

 

Duh....

 

So unless you have any potential signings or rumours then put a lid on the drivel and comment when you have something for us

 

Cheers Princess x

 

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JAMMY1980

Get a room you two!

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Dino Velvet

Get a room you two!

The kind of room Indiana Jones and short round get stuck in.

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alicante jambo

Get a room you two!

Mental aint it?

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kimosavi

The kind of room Indiana Jones and short round get stuck in.

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Bridge of Djoum

You clearly dont know that when you reply to someone on tapatalk it AUTOMATICALLY follows the person you have replied to

 

Duh....

 

So unless you have any potential signings or rumours then put a lid on the drivel and comment when you have something for us

 

Cheers Princess x

 

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Yes, but I'm asking you to stop. I'm not questioning how it happened. 

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kimosavi

Yes, but I'm asking you to stop. I'm not questioning how it happened.

And i'm saying no

 

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jamboinglasgow

Berra and Allan to be announced early next week.

 

I presume the Allan you mean is Scott Allan, which if thats the case I presume its a loan as he still has 2 years left on his contract. 

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Mikey1874

I presume the Allan you mean is Scott Allan, which if thats the case I presume its a loan as he still has 2 years left on his contract.

No

 

Allan McGregor

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HMFC86

I presume the Allan you mean is Scott Allan, which if thats the case I presume its a loan as he still has 2 years left on his contract.

Good chance Sellick wouldn't mind getting shot if him.

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JamboAl

Shopping around the "Bargain Basement" is what St Johnstone do and have done successfully for some time now. We haven't beaten them away since 2012 incidentally.

 

Do you really think that their wage budget is anything like ours?

 

You say I am moaning and groaning but when you reply in the fashion you do what is that exactly other than moaning at me.

 

This is a forum for fans to air their views and just because we don't all agree doesn't make one right and the other wrong.

 

We obviously have different opinions and in our own eyes we think we are right so let's just leave it at that.

 

How many times do I have to say that we lost 2 key players through long term injury and 2 to ACoN. Ozturk who had already been out of favour with RN took a deal abroad as did Rossi while Muirhead followed RN to MK Dons.  We received fees for all 3 and their contracts were up anyway in Summer.  That I suggest is foresight and good business.  Since they had to be replaced in a notoriously poor January window, temporary, I repeat temporary, signings were made in the cases of 7 of the 9 additions.  One of these was an amateur with no financial cost.

St Johnstone by contrast made few if any signings; probably felt they did not need to (their expectations are lower than ours) nor were they in admin 3 years ago.  If you think St J do better than us why don't you go and support them.

Incidentally if you check your facts you'll see it is longer than 2012 since we last beat them away and CL wasn't there then.

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soonbe110

How decent is your source?

They are both pretty decent and both saying the same thing. Both deals done. Time will tell how good their info is this time.

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soonbe110

Who are we talking about here bud scott allan?

Yes. Had it been the keeper I would have said McGregor because I'm not on first name terms with him.

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soonbe110

I presume the Allan you mean is Scott Allan, which if thats the case I presume its a loan as he still has 2 years left on his contract.

 

i believe contracts can be terminated early by mutual consent. Sure I have heard of it happening before.

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JJ1984

i believe contracts can be terminated early by mutual consent. Sure I have heard of it happening before.

So Scott Allan is going to give up the biggest wage he's ever going to get to come to us? Sorry don't believe it for a second.

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HMFC86

So Scott Allan is going to give up the biggest wage he's ever going to get to come to us? Sorry don't believe it for a second.

Depends if he wants to play really though. Players have taken wage cuts before in favour of first team football. Wasn't he in the team that Cathro brought through & played under Levein?

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Tynecastlesmychurch

Berra and Allan to be announced early next week.

That's really interesting that you say we are after Scott Alan because I've heard that also. Not about it being anounced next week. Honestly just thought it was us being linked to him again. Maybe their is truth in it this time?

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Tynecastlesmychurch

So Scott Allan is going to give up the biggest wage he's ever going to get to come to us? Sorry don't believe it for a second.

 

He was earning more down in England. And I've heard from one my mates (he's a Celtic fan) that he's being released.

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kimosavi

That's really interesting that you say we are after Scott Alan because I've heard that also. Not about it being anounced next week. Honestly just thought it was us being linked to him again. Maybe their is truth in it this time?

Heard the same from someone who said his source works for the club. In what capacity i dont know. I just assumed it was our yearly association with him

 

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