Mikey1874 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I think its a really interesting event. Anyone interested in football. Really positive. And thinking in terms of Scottish football not just Hearts. I understand managers keeping things secret. Not wanting to help the opposition. But nowadays especially with everything the fans do for clubs it is good to hear a bit more. If Robbie had explained his reasons for doing certain things for example he could have had a better relationship with a lot of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just read some of the comments on FB that had a link to the story. A lot of fans losing their shit over this. "ITZ A DISGRACE LIKE!!!!" "IZZY GOANY USE HIS LAPTOP??!!!!1!!!" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I remember the good old days when club reps, some as high as the manager, would go round the supporters clubs chatting to fans. Craig Levein was last Hearts manager to visit our club in 2004. ?15 to listen to Cathro/McPhee...? I think for all the good the current regime have done, maybe I should just give them my bank details and let them just take what they need each month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 So I might get a more meaningful chat with her should I ever feel the need. You are a sad individual with your continual comments about other peoples intelligence. What does it do for you? Do you feel you are on a higher intellectual level than other fans despite no proof??? Feel free to answer once you have finished your latest dissertations. In the meantime here is a hint..intolerance of other people's opinions and only entering a conversation to be rude about others is not a sign of greater brain power. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 At a rough estimate ?5,600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just read some of the comments on FB that had a link to the story. A lot of fans losing their shit over this. "ITZ A DISGRACE LIKE!!!!" "IZZY GOANY USE HIS LAPTOP??!!!!1!!!" . You are not suggesting an intellectual divide are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I remember the good old days when club reps, some as high as the manager, would go round the supporters clubs chatting to fans. Craig Levein was last Hearts manager to visit our club in 2004. ?15 to listen to Cathro/McPhee...? I think for all the good the current regime have done, maybe I should just give them my bank details and let them just take what they need each month... The good old days have gone mate. You need to move on unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Is Mr Levein going to be there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-bosses-ian-cathro-austin-10304879 Interesting way of reporting a fundraiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Sure Anne Budge will be quietly asking him the question if things don't improve! *Ann. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 *Ann. FFS. I sit corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Don't think the timing is great. Maybe at the end of the season, include plans for next year. There is still game left, if we lose a few, they are setting themselves up for the usual brigade and giving them more ammo to shoot them down with. Don't think k it will achieve much tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 ?15 quid to find out how to lose a football match? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Already know how we set up for matches... ****ing BADLY... Thats why we keep getting pumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Deary me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSheight Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Do they know that other teams coaches could attend this and see what preparation we do? Amateur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Throw in a "Best Of Eduardas Kurkis" DVD and a Conor Sammon meet and greet and I'm already there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSheight Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 We over prepare for our league. Get the ball shove it in the net is sometimes all that is needed. Tactics are nice in the premier league in England but in Scotland. Get stuck in. Try. Find net is all that's needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 We over prepare for our league. Get the ball shove it in the net is sometimes all that is needed. Tactics are nice in the premier league in England but in Scotland. Get stuck in. Try. Find net is all that's needed. How do we "over prepare" for games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 We over prepare for our league. Get the ball shove it in the net is sometimes all that is needed. Tactics are nice in the premier league in England but in Scotland. Get stuck in. Try. Find net is all that's needed. I think I have found the stupidest kickback post of 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I don't care what they do unless they win games for Hearts, how hard they work or what their methods are don't interest me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4 Part B Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Can't believe the negativity around this event! We're all pretty disappointed with performance and results, we all want things to change for the better, but do we know what these 'things' are? Do we know the actual root/details of the problem?* Perhaps this will provide some of the answers? Some might come out with more belief in what Cathro and McPhee are trying to do, some might come out more convinced that they don't know what they're doing but at least everyone that attends will come away with more knowledge and a greater understanding of Cathro and McPhee actually think! That's got to be a good thing?! *No prizes for saying "Levein" is the problem, or "just try harder" that's lazy! (Although if information came to light in the event that could lead you there, fair enough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSheight Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I think I have found the stupidest kickback post of 2017. Somewhat tongue in cheek however there is some truth that you can over prepare for the opposition and not focus on your own strengths. Some of the best managers prepare very little for matches. Our league is that bad that you can 100% look too much in to the opposition and over complicate what is still a very simple game - at our level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Treat it as it is. A fun fundraising event. We should be happy our club is trying to generate funds in a way fans can get something different and fairly cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonesy Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Win games. I don't care how, but win games. ?15 to hear from two men who have contributed nothing to HMFC at this point in time is robbery. They should be paying folk ?15 to go. They're nice guys, but haven't done anything worthy of our club so far, except one humping of Rangers. Unfortunately getting papped off of Celtic by a record scoreline, sleep-walking through a cup-tie derby against one of the shitiest Hibs teams in most fans' lifetime and failing to compete in at least 50% of games they've been in charge of makes me think that whatever they've got to say isn't worth listening to. It's not working, and telling us what they do that isn't working is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonesy Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Treat it as it is. A fun fundraising event. We should be happy our club is trying to generate funds in a way fans can get something different and fairly cheap How about ?10 a bag of rotten tomatoes to throw at Levein, who is held in stocks? The stand would be paid for overnight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 While first and foremost being a fund raiser this has the potential to benefit both the management team and the fans. Fans might get a better understanding of what they are trying to achieve whilst digesting some feedback and suggestions from the floor.Really?Cathro should be perfectly capable of describing what he wants to achieve without people paying for the privilege. I'm also assuming that includes actually winning games of football. I'm not one to criticise the club for the sake of it but charging for an event like this doesn't sit quite right. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Well people that mouth off on here day after day about how shite Cathro is. They will be able to tell him to his face how shite they think he is and share their beef with him. I'm not sure anyone is happy with the form shown. Whether or not you want to shout abuse at Cathro face to face is another matter. Now people will be able to. No they won't. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The good old days have gone mate. You need to move on unfortunately. Not to that extent we don't. Why not a ballot of season ticket holders? This smacks of money grabbing. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Do they know that other teams coaches could attend this and see what preparation we do? Amateur That assumes you'll get something worthwhile out of it as opposed to bland statements about their philosophy. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonesy Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Not to that extent we don't. Why not a ballot of season ticket holders? This smacks of money grabbing. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Perhaps i8hibs' monthly donation was about ?100,000 and we're just trying to cover it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Perhaps i8hibs' monthly donation was about ?100,000 and we're just trying to cover it? Forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Can't believe the hostility towards this event and to the management team. The purpose of this event is to raise funds for the club and therefore why all the criticism; no-one is being forced to go. For those saying that Cathro/McPhee haven't achieved anything yet etc, although results have been poor since they came in, are you not open to the possibility that they might actually turn things round? I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt and FWIW I do think they will ultimately be a success. I'm really interested in training regimes/plans in most sports and it'll be fascinating to hear what the players actually do in training during the week while we're all at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I'm itk and I've been told that the entire coaching staff including Levein have been flat out over the last fortnight practicing their note taking and note delivery. They've been flying around like confetti at Riccarton. Expect a much improved performance in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of reason Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Really looking forward to this. To get to learn from two of the most respected young coaches [although not respected as managers yet] in the game for ?15 seems good value to me. As a youth coach, I think it will be a very informative evening. The fact that the entry money is going towards the new stand just makes it even more of a no-brainer for me to go. Both Ian and Austin have had incredibly impressive coaching careers to date, and been brave enough to try their luck abroad. These guys are good role models for aspiring coaches and well worth listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'm sure this is the 21st Century version of " An Evening with Albert Pierrepoint". Talk about being hung out to dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The loudmouth arseholes that fancy themselves as football managers won't pay the money to go to this. They'd rather sit at home and rage about it, because "Cafro is killin oor club ken!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The loudmouth arseholes that fancy themselves as football managers won't pay the money to go to this. They'd rather sit at home and rage about it, because "Cafro is killin oor club ken!" seriously do you think the club is unquestionable..especially in its recruitment of coaches where not one coach that we've employed has had to pass an interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The loudmouth arseholes that fancy themselves as football managers won't pay the money to go to this. They'd rather sit at home and rage about it, because "Cafro is killin oor club ken!"I would rather spend my time listening to someone who has actually achieved something. Instead of paying ?15 for this, I'll pledge ?5 for every point we get between now and the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 We over prepare for our league. Get the ball shove it in the net is sometimes all that is needed. Tactics are nice in the premier league in England but in Scotland. Get stuck in. Try. Find net is all that's needed. Ironic use name , you seem full of eh, your namesake. Tactics are required for any level. However, you can overthink things, tbh our problem, imo is more simple. Too many players who don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I would rather spend my time listening to someone who has actually achieved something. Instead of paying ?15 for this, I'll pledge ?5 for every point we get between now and the end of the season. Fair enough, others will find meeting and hearing from our teams coaches interesting, because they are with Hearts, the team you support and pay to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Fair enough, others will find meeting and hearing from our teams coaches interesting, because they are with Hearts, the team you support and pay to watch. I've no doubt it will be interesting to hear how coaches work, as it would be if it was any professional coach, but I don't fancy spending ?15 listening to Cathro talking about his Football Philosophy' while his team plays like a bunch of disinterested strangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Are people aware it's not compulsory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Do any other clubs or managers put these on? Or is it just the really bad ones who have to try and justify their clueless-ness? Serious question with slight dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The more I think about this, the less sense it makes. "Here is the process we go though which allows us to lose only 1-0 to Ross County at home, limit the mighty Partick Thistle to just two goals in Glasgow, and deliver an overall win rate of 25% in our first five months in charge." They'll be laughed off the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of reason Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 This is a fundraiser for the new stand - it's the only reason we are doing it. It will sell out and raise money for a facility we all want and which currently has a financial shortfall. I cannot see the benefit of Hearts fans coming on here and, to all intent and purpose, trying to talk people out of attending. If you don't want to go then fine - what are you hoping to achieve by bad-mouthing the event. Is it better for the club that this sells-out or is half-empty? As Gorgie Road Eh11 posted, it is not compulsory to attend - lots of people will attend though, and enjoy it, and the stand kitty will expand. This is a good idea by the club and I'm really looking forward to hearing from Ian and Austin. Any person involved in grassroots football coaching would be short-sighted to miss this. This is a session primarily about coaching players - Ian has coached in big clubs in Spain, Portugal and England. Slag off his management record by all means but the guys coaching credentials are excellent, as are Austin's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I like the idea of this event im sure it will be an interesting listen from Cathro & McPhee. Cathro was at the FOH plot ceremony I attended and he spoke very well about how some of his ideas haven't come off yet but we are beginning to see where he is intending on taking the team in terms of style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 This is a fundraiser for the new stand - it's the only reason we are doing it. It will sell out and raise money for a facility we all want and which currently has a financial shortfall. I cannot see the benefit of Hearts fans coming on here and, to all intent and purpose, trying to talk people out of attending. If you don't want to go then fine - what are you hoping to achieve by bad-mouthing the event. Is it better for the club that this sells-out or is half-empty? As Gorgie Road Eh11 posted, it is not compulsory to attend - lots of people will attend though, and enjoy it, and the stand kitty will expand. This is a good idea by the club and I'm really looking forward to hearing from Ian and Austin. Any person involved in grassroots football coaching would be short-sighted to miss this. This is a session primarily about coaching players - Ian has coached in big clubs in Spain, Portugal and England. Slag off his management record by all means but the guys coaching credentials are excellent, as are Austin's. As in your name you are correct. The thread became a waste of time however when the usual fellow fans were using it as a way of insulting those with doubts as to the management talents of our coaches. You are spot on about how it may well greatly appeal to those involved in coaching and as it is about fund raising I hope it is a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 This is a fundraiser for the new stand - it's the only reason we are doing it. It will sell out and raise money for a facility we all want and which currently has a financial shortfall. I cannot see the benefit of Hearts fans coming on here and, to all intent and purpose, trying to talk people out of attending. If you don't want to go then fine - what are you hoping to achieve by bad-mouthing the event. Is it better for the club that this sells-out or is half-empty? As Gorgie Road Eh11 posted, it is not compulsory to attend - lots of people will attend though, and enjoy it, and the stand kitty will expand. This is a good idea by the club and I'm really looking forward to hearing from Ian and Austin. Any person involved in grassroots football coaching would be short-sighted to miss this. This is a session primarily about coaching players - Ian has coached in big clubs in Spain, Portugal and England. Slag off his management record by all means but the guys coaching credentials are excellent, as are Austin's. Cannot disagree with that and I doubt anyone would challenge Cathro's coaching credentials. If it's taken as simply listening to a good coach talk about his methods, it should be a very enjoyable evening and I certainly would not try to talk anyone out of attending. Just maybe a tad cynical about Cathro right now, and people talking football philosophies in general when they haven't had the results to back it up. Enjoy the evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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