Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Mack, do me favour. Can you put up the David Davies interview with Dan Walker on BBC breakfast this morning, please. it's a treat. Cant find it but if stumble across I sure will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Maybe in whatever reality you are living in. Meanwhile for the rest of us it will be business as usual in the UK. The SNP are a bigger danger than the Tories and will wreck our economy with their Independence at all costs. We have yet to see what their policies are for the deficit, currency, etc. The signs are there for all to see with Scotland's economy performing worse than the rest of the UK. Meanwhile in Education the EIS are due to start 3 day a week strikes from May over pay... The Economy? England's economy is only ticking over because of its population. We have less people, so... As soon as people stop spending it'll nose dive dramatically. Scotland have the best employment numbers, better NHS etc... But I noticed you don't mention the NHS in England, or welfare cuts or taking benefifs from disabled and sticking very I'll people back to work etc... As soon as Brexit kicks in. As for currency that's already been said. The pound until we set up our own. And Scotland doesn't have a deficit. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 What about the Scotland Act 2016 ? https://www.snp.org/pb_what_powers_does_the_scotland_act_2016_devolveThe SNP choses not to use them. The levers are there but they dont use them as if would mean making tough decisions which would lose votes. Wgat legislation have the SNP passed other Thsn the referendum bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The SNP choses not to use them. The levers are there but they dont use them as if would mean making tough decisions which would lose votes. Wgat legislation have the SNP passed other Thsn the referendum bill That's the only one required. Anyway they're too busy offsetting Tory cuts. But you crack on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Independence at any cost for these ***** Yoonion at any cost but... ?1.8......TRILLION in debt! England can't afford to go it alone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Yoonion at any cost but... ?1.8......TRILLION in debt! England can't afford to go it alone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Investopedia talks of "the economically clueless that are transfixed by the debt clock". It seems hard to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 What about the extra powers we were promised by voting No after the original referendum? Did they ever surface? No The SNP choses not to use them. The levers are there but they dont use them as if would mean making tough decisions which would lose votes. Wgat legislation have the SNP passed other Thsn the referendum bill That's the only one required. Anyway they're too busy offsetting Tory cuts. But you crack on. So extra powers were given https://www.snp.org/pb_what_powers_does_the_scotland_act_2016_devolve ..... it's just that the SNP are too busy to use them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Investopedia talks of "the economically clueless that are transfixed by the debt clock". It seems hard to disagree.Why dismiss it? We can't service it without more debt and cuts.Anyway, what time is the vote today. SNP to abstain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So extra powers were given https://www.snp.org/pb_what_powers_does_the_scotland_act_2016_devolve ..... it's just that the SNP are too busy to use them ?I'm not interest in feeble administration powers that WM don't want to run.Independence or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The Economy? England's economy is only ticking over because of its population. We have less people, so... As soon as people stop spending it'll nose dive dramatically. Scotland have the best employment numbers, better NHS etc... But I noticed you don't mention the NHS in England, or welfare cuts or taking benefifs from disabled and sticking very I'll people back to work etc... As soon as Brexit kicks in. As for currency that's already been said. The pound until we set up our own. And Scotland doesn't have a deficit. Fact. Economic illiteracy and wishful thinking at its delusional best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I'm not interest in feeble administration powers that WM don't want to run. Independence or nothing. If that's what you believe then that's entirely up to you - I just don't know why you felt you had to lie in response to hughesie27 earlier question ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Economic illiteracy and wishful thinking at its delusional best.Your arse. Exports ain't powering the Economy, that's for sure. Internal spending that's it. Hard Brexit non Trade with the EU to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If that's what you believe then that's entirely up to you - I just don't know why you felt you had to lie in response to hughesie27 earlier question ?It's not Home rule or Devi max, so it was you that misled him. Labour vetoed everything in Smith negotiations. Ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 People will look at the fact that SNP have passed feck all thru the scottish parliament except going for indy2 whilst the important things in life have gone to pot .The Tories will increase vote in Scotland - Snp will decrease Mind telling me any Scottish Tory policy other that Union Jack waving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Your arse. Exports ain't powering the Economy, that's for sure. Internal spending that's it. Hard Brexit non Trade with the EU to come. You better be worried then. 63%,of Scotland's exports are purchased by rUK. 16% of Scotland's exports are purchased by the whole EU put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Investopedia talks of "the economically clueless that are transfixed by the debt clock". It seems hard to disagree. Should've told Mr Osbourne about that then? And Mrs May who is pursuing more or less the same policy. Are they both "economically clueless" as you put it, too? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 i see angus Robertson has said the SNP will abstain on the vote for an election, that's pretty much what they've done in 10 years in charge here, stayed at home sitting on their hands. it's not for independence so their not gonna give a get involved " independence at all costs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It's not Home rule or Devi max, so it was you that misled him. Labour vetoed everything in Smith negotiations. Ffs I don't believe that Home Rule or Devo Max were part of "The Vow" - do you have information to show that they were ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 You better be worried then. 63%,of Scotland's exports are purchased by rUK. 16% of Scotland's exports are purchased by the whole EU put together. I'm not worried, new trades and England paying the going rate will do me. Christ if it wasn't for the EU we'd be 100% trade with England. No more cheap Scottish exports for England to sell on. You know WM keeps Scottish exports shipped from England in their numbers, don't. No that's right, G.E.R.S is gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don't believe that Home Rule or Devo Max were part of "The Vow" - do you have information to show that they were ? There was no Vow. It was something the Daily Record bashed together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don't believe that Home Rule or Devo Max were part of "The Vow" - do you have information to show that they were ?Ask Dave and Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 There was no Vow. It was something the Daily Record bashed together. Oh ma sides No Vow now? No promises made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 i see angus Robertson has said the SNP will abstain on the vote for an election, that's pretty much what they've done in 10 years in charge here, stayed at home sitting on their hands. it's not for independence so their not gonna give a *** get involved " independence at all costs".Hello Nostradamus, yer user name is on the button. Union at all costs. Act of settlement at all costs. Just like Rangers the red white and blue is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Your arse. Exports ain't powering the Economy, that's for sure. Internal spending that's it. Hard Brexit non Trade with the EU to come. Consumer debt has been doing that for the last 6 months and look how that turned out [emoji2] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Ask Dave and Gordon. No mention of it here : http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron-ed-miliband-nick-4265992 So back to the original question - have new powers been delivered or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 No mention of it here : http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron-ed-miliband-nick-4265992 So back to the original question - have new powers been delivered or not ? The vow isn't real. Go and listen to Dave and Gordon speeches. Stop putting up the Daily Ranger as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Rothstein Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Aussie and Fishy absolutely shiting it. SNP can only go backwards at this election. Glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Oh ma sides No Vow now? No promises made? Promises for more power Yes. Not Devo Max What was the promise that Salmond made about the referendum. Once in a lifetime ? Oh ma sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Aussie and Fishy absolutely shiting it. SNP can only go backwards at this election. Glorious. Ta ta Fluffy and Ian Murray. Show me where the SNP will lose seats then Arnie? Edinburgh West to the Lid Dems is maybe one, any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The vow isn't real. Go and listen to Dave and Gordon speeches. Stop putting up the Daily Ranger as fact. Fairly certain that's the first time I've ever linked to the Daily Record ..... be nice if you could provide some facts to back up your point of view. As I see it they promised extra powers for Scotland - setup the Smith Commission to investigate this > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Commission and implemented these recommendations as part of the Scotland Act 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Act_2016 Which part of the above do you disagree with ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Rothstein Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Ta ta Fluffy and Ian Murray. Show me where the SNP will lose seats then Arnie? Edinburgh West to the Lid Dems is maybe one, any others? Exactly the kind of misplaced confidence that will look silly come 09/06. They'll lose 10+ seats easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Do some posters on this thread not work? God knows how they get the time to constantly post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Do some posters on this thread not work? God knows how they get the time to constantly post 2 of them are leaflet distributers for WOS and spreading the gospel on here is part of it. you'll notice they post a multitude of unsubstantiated dross and answer nothing unless theres a link to an other separatist on WOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 SNP going to abstain from todays vote. John Swinney getting ripped a new one BBC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 SNP going to abstain from todays vote. John Swinney getting ripped a new one BBC 2 Seems a fair position. An abstention is equivalent to a vote against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Seems a fair position. An abstention is equivalent to a vote against. From the party that scream hypocrisy about May having no mandate they are (possibly) not going to vote in a process that will give May (if she wins) a mandate. As I said before if somebody said today is Wednesday the SNP would challenge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Exactly the kind of misplaced confidence that will look silly come 09/06. They'll lose 10+ seats easily. 10th April 2017 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/15215078.Thumbs_up_for_Nicola_Sturgeon_as_other_politicians_see_negative_approval_rating/ BOOOOOOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 From the party that scream hypocrisy about May having no mandate they are (possibly) not going to vote in a process that will give May (if she wins) a mandate. As I said before if somebody said today is Wednesday the SNP would challenge it. Did Ruth Davidson and her toxic Torys back the Scottish Governments Section 30 order the other month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Should've told Mr Osbourne about that then? And Mrs May who is pursuing more or less the same policy. Are they both "economically clueless" as you put it, too? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro How long is it going to take for you to grasp the difference between Debt and Deficit. That, by the way, is an observation and not a question - I have learned not to expect answers that are in any way pertinent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Did Ruth Davidson and her toxic Torys back the Scottish Governments Section 30 order the other month? Show me the hypocrisy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Show me the hypocrisy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Didn't need the Torys OR the Lib Dems OR the Labour partys votes anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 How long is it going to take for you to grasp the difference between Debt and Deficit. That, by the way, is an observation and not a question - I have learned not to expect answers that are in any way pertinent. The debt is ?1.8 TRILLION. The deficit is about ?70-80 BILLION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Didn't need the Torys OR the Lib Dems OR the Labour partys votes anyway. Only the hypocritical Greens who went against their manifesto to get a few crumbs from the SNP trough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Only the hypocritical Greens who went against their manifesto to get a few crumbs from the SNP trough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk See if this GE result gives Maggie a mandate in Parliament for Brexit, does that mean the Scottish Parliament has a mandate for Indy 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 See if this GE result gives Maggie a mandate in Parliament for Brexit, does that mean the Scottish Parliament has a mandate for Indy 2? No Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The debt is ?1.8 TRILLION. The deficit is about ?70-80 BILLION. and yet again you didn't answer the question, you must be question dyslexic, its like debating with a lump of wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 No Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Bwhahahahahahahahahahhahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Has Mrs May even replied yet to the section 30 letter? Maybe too busy concentrating on Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Exactly the kind of misplaced confidence that will look silly come 09/06. They'll lose 10+ seats easily. Here ya go Arnie. http://www.thenational.scot/politics/15231352.Seven_seats_to_watch_at_the_2017_General_Election/?ref=mr&lp=4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bwhahahahahahahahahahhahaha You really know how to make yourself look childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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