Pans Jambo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Why, well I blame the Lib Dems, because they abandoned the area to the Tories back in 2005. Prior to that, this had been amongst the safest of safe Liberal & then the Lib Dem seats in the country, the seat of David Steel since the 60's until the late 90's when Michael Moore took over from him, then due to boundary changes the Lib Dems knew that they would lose the seat to the Tories, so they moved Michael Moore to the neighbouring constituency of Ettrick & Lauderdale & until the last GE it was still a Lib Dem seat, now even it's Tory. Since 2005 we have had David Mundell as our MP, the Lib Dems now come 3rd/4th a long way behind the Tories whose only real challenge are the SNP, but even they seem to be waning as Mundell increased his majority at the last GE. There are probably many reasons why he increased his majority and personally I wonder what part the large influx of retirees from England who seem to have moved into many areas of the Borders over the last decade or so have had on this. Again there are probably many reasons why, cheaper houses, cheaper cost of living, many a free health care benefit which they have to pay for in England, but not for in Scotland. Whilst there are many older people here in the Borders, good old NHS Scotland are keeping them alive for longer, hence why, unfortunately, I can't see any of the Border constituencies turning any other colour than blue for the forseeable, like it or lump it, it seems we are stuck with the Tories down here, and I can't see it changing any time soon. Yeah I get it. I have absolutely no idea why Haddington & North Berwick vote tory in East Lothian🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Cade said: Tory voters in the Borders. Who are mainly old and well off and middle class and white. Lots of landed gentry in the Borders. Quite a few retirees from all over the UK. I'm quite willing to move the border just below the capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I'm quite willing to move the border just below the capital. Above please, then I wouldn’t get taxed so much 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Above please, then I wouldn’t get taxed so much 👍🏻 Alba it is 👍 Less tax rebate. :D Maybe Glesga will have the baws to be a real capital. Edited July 18, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I mean, it's not even ambiguous wording, it just . . . How did this get through whatever advertising committees and boards and higher-ups and whatever in the party and end up in a train? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Justin Z said: I mean, it's not even ambiguous wording, it just . . . How did this get through whatever advertising committees and boards and higher-ups and whatever in the party and end up in a train? These clowns run our country as well FFS Edited July 20, 2019 by Pans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Zlatanable said: Within 10 seconds of seeing that train poster here, I was 100% certain it was a faked poster. You two ought to sharpen up. Dammit! But thanks for the wakeup call. Thank goodness even they weren't that incompetent Many thanks to the artist, Foka Wolf, for the laughs, https://www.facebook.com/fkawlf/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: These clowns run our country as well FFS Seems they have the perfect audience 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Seems they have the perfect audience 🤔 Well it is their “M.O.”!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Tory MP Charlie Elphicke charged with 3 counts of sexual assault. The man suspended, then allowed back in just to vote in the no-confidence vote then immediately suspended again. The Tories have no shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 18:48, Cade said: Tory voters in the Borders. Who are mainly old and well off and middle class and white. Lots of landed gentry in the Borders. Quite a few retirees from all over the UK. A stereotypical rabid lefty trying hard to stereotype a region. Priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: A stereotypical rabid lefty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Couldnt put it any better. A little snake of a man. Proper tory. Same as them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Another clown shows up https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/08/sajid-javid-is-totally-unfit-to-be.html?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Montgomery Brewster said: Another clown shows up https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/08/sajid-javid-is-totally-unfit-to-be.html?m=1 Not as much as the clowns who believe that Corbyn on his promise to tax the rich are after their hard earned and not the 1/2% who have it all and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) So it seems this "extra" funding for the NHS in England that Boris is promising isn't even coming from the tory government but instead is the funds that the NHS trusts have been saving up from their allocated budgets and not allowed to spend previously. They now have the "permission" to release these funds that they have saved up themselves and can now spend it. No EXTRA or NEW money, just the money that they've not been allowed to spend previously. Snake oil salesmen. You couldn't make it up! Edited August 7, 2019 by Pans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 On 10/07/2019 at 18:33, maroonlegions said: Labour a head in the polls a general election around the corner so the BBC once again shows us it’s disgraceful impartiality by running a panorama documentary made by a ex sun newspaper journalist to attack the most un- racist man in politics .Transparent and desperate Stuff from the Tory propaganda machine . What a difference a month makes. Scottish Labour are FIFTH in the polls. Predicted to get zero Westminster seats and single digits in Holyrood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, dobmisterdobster said: What a difference a month makes. Scottish Labour are FIFTH in the polls. Predicted to get zero Westminster seats and single digits in Holyrood. What a difference the right wing media makes,though, making up nonsense. You seem a bit pissed off that actual Jews and a big number of them see Corbyns Labour as NON anti semitic. This man and his kind are the real enemies to the UK mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, maroonlegions said: What a difference the right wing media makes,though, making up nonsense. You seem a bit pissed off that actual Jews and a big number of them see Corbyns Labour as NON anti semitic. This man and his kind are the real enemies to the UK mate. Remind us again WHO kicked off this whole Brexit thing way back when??? Oh aye, the tories. Now its everyone else's fault. A big boy did it and ran away! Be that Sturgeon's fault shortly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Pans Jambo said: Remind us again WHO kicked off this whole Brexit thing way back when??? Oh aye, the tories. Now its everyone else's fault. A big boy did it and ran away! Be that Sturgeon's fault shortly!!! What the feck are you on about. That was an attack on Rees MOGG. And yes May and some Tories are at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: What the feck are you on about. That was an attack on Rees MOGG. And yes May and some Tories are at fault. Yeah I know mate. Wasnt aimed at you! Its amazing that they can even come out with the finger pointing after years of this pish that THEY caused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: What a difference the right wing media makes,though, making up nonsense. You seem a bit pissed off that actual Jews and a big number of them see Corbyns Labour as NON anti semitic. This man and his kind are the real enemies to the UK mate. I have nothing to say about the antisemitism controversy so lets move on from that. May negotiated a deal which permanently annexed one of the UK's nations into the customs union. JRM voted against the deal along with Labour, SNP, Lib Dems etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Justin Z said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: Yeah I know mate. Wasnt aimed at you! Its amazing that they can even come out with the finger pointing after years of this pish that THEY caused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Weird, I just saw this video of Boris bloviating a few years ago about how a pound spent in Croydon is more valuable than a pound spent in Strathclyde. He was going on about his predecessors' out of control spending, their wasting of boom years, and so forth. A fair summation, I think you'd agree, of his party's so-called position on spending, given the austerity of the past near-decade. If the thread title fits . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 11/08/2019 at 11:34, Justin Z said: Weird, I just saw this video of Boris bloviating a few years ago about how a pound spent in Croydon is more valuable than a pound spent in Strathclyde. He was going on about his predecessors' out of control spending, their wasting of boom years, and so forth. A fair summation, I think you'd agree, of his party's so-called position on spending, given the austerity of the past near-decade. If the thread title fits . . . Breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Oh please! If Larry can't get on with Palmerston, how do on earth you expect him to work with other cats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Zlatanable said: you said bloviating . hilarious Weird! That's an entirely American word? I just looked it up. Had no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 State pension about to rise to seventyfeckingfive under these scumbags. Who votes for this mob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: State pension about to rise to seventyfeckingfive under these scumbags. Who votes for this mob. That's fine if you work in an office, what about all the workies out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, Smithee said: That's fine if you work in an office, what about all the workies out there? Climbing roofs til am 75. 60 years of pension dues for how many years retirement. Two?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, ri Alban said: State pension about to rise to seventyfeckingfive under these scumbags. Who votes for this mob. Utterly ridiculous. These scum need hounded out of office. Where was it stated in their manifesto of lies that they got voted into power on that another 8 years would be added to your working life? How many folk will live long enough to actually claim any of it? They should be ashamed but they wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, ri Alban said: State pension about to rise to seventyfeckingfive under these scumbags. Who votes for this mob. No it's not. A private "think tank" came up with this theory not the government who have apparently ruled out any changes to the current 68. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: No it's not. A private "think tank" came up with this theory not the government who have apparently ruled out any changes to the current 68. The think tank have recommended 75, which will be put into peoples psyche, which will then become the norm. As it usually does, and no one says a thing. A private Tory think tank. Edited August 18, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Utterly ridiculous. These scum need hounded out of office. Where was it stated in their manifesto of lies that they got voted into power on that another 8 years would be added to your working life? How many folk will live long enough to actually claim any of it? They should be ashamed but they wont. The working class fecked again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: No it's not. A private "think tank" came up with this theory not the government who have apparently ruled out any changes to the current 68. It's happening. I dont mind paying my tax. My national insurance. I dont mind paying my mandatory private pension which amounts to another 1500 pounds a year . I dont. I've bigger shoulders than some. What I do mind is that I pay in far more proportionally than those who earn and companies who post obscene profits than I do. Not because I want to penalise rich people but because I want to live in a society that's not a rabid free for all. Smithee makes a good point regarding workies and office workers in regard to ability to keep working to 75. But it's a fraction of the overall picture. Capitalism and the continued need for growth was forecast by Karl Marx to eventually squeeze until it could be squeezed no more. The only fault with his prediction was that he di not foresee the environmental impact of the growth of population and the growing needs . Think tanks are not government policy but they are reality. Like it or not we are heading if we continue with appeasement of capitalist institutions a total fek up. Too late to change that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maroonlegions Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, jake said: It's happening. I dont mind paying my tax. My national insurance. I dont mind paying my mandatory private pension which amounts to another 1500 pounds a year . I dont. I've bigger shoulders than some. What I do mind is that I pay in far more proportionally than those who earn and companies who post obscene profits than I do. Not because I want to penalise rich people but because I want to live in a society that's not a rabid free for all. Smithee makes a good point regarding workies and office workers in regard to ability to keep working to 75. But it's a fraction of the overall picture. Capitalism and the continued need for growth was forecast by Karl Marx to eventually squeeze until it could be squeezed no more. The only fault with his prediction was that he di not foresee the environmental impact of the growth of population and the growing needs . Think tanks are not government policy but they are reality. Like it or not we are heading if we continue with appeasement of capitalist institutions a total fek up. Too late to change that . Profit before people or the environment, it's the capitalist way. No change until the majority of the human race , not just governments or multinationals, reverses this cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, jake said: It's happening. I dont mind paying my tax. My national insurance. I dont mind paying my mandatory private pension which amounts to another 1500 pounds a year . I dont. I've bigger shoulders than some. What I do mind is that I pay in far more proportionally than those who earn and companies who post obscene profits than I do. Not because I want to penalise rich people but because I want to live in a society that's not a rabid free for all. Smithee makes a good point regarding workies and office workers in regard to ability to keep working to 75. But it's a fraction of the overall picture. Capitalism and the continued need for growth was forecast by Karl Marx to eventually squeeze until it could be squeezed no more. The only fault with his prediction was that he di not foresee the environmental impact of the growth of population and the growing needs . Think tanks are not government policy but they are reality. Like it or not we are heading if we continue with appeasement of capitalist institutions a total fek up. Too late to change that . There's no incentive to have a pension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, ri Alban said: There's no incentive to have a pension. No mate but its mandatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Profit before people or the environment, it's the capitalist way. No change until the majority of the human race , not just governments or multinationals, reverses this cancer. Too late . Unfortunately buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: No it's not. A private "think tank" came up with this theory not the government who have apparently ruled out any changes to the current 68. Iain Duncan Smith's think tank. Not exactly private, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, jake said: It's happening. I dont mind paying my tax. My national insurance. I dont mind paying my mandatory private pension which amounts to another 1500 pounds a year . I dont. I've bigger shoulders than some. What I do mind is that I pay in far more proportionally than those who earn and companies who post obscene profits than I do. Not because I want to penalise rich people but because I want to live in a society that's not a rabid free for all. Smithee makes a good point regarding workies and office workers in regard to ability to keep working to 75. But it's a fraction of the overall picture. Capitalism and the continued need for growth was forecast by Karl Marx to eventually squeeze until it could be squeezed no more. The only fault with his prediction was that he di not foresee the environmental impact of the growth of population and the growing needs . Think tanks are not government policy but they are reality. Like it or not we are heading if we continue with appeasement of capitalist institutions a total fek up. Too late to change that . No it isn't. However it would mean radical change and due to the fact everyone is so short termed in their thinking it probably won't happen. It could though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, Boris said: No it isn't. However it would mean radical change and due to the fact everyone is so short termed in their thinking it probably won't happen. It could though... It's too late. And although Karl Marx foresaw what's happening he did not include population growth or the environmental catastrophe . Yes with a miracle it could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Boris said: However it would mean radical change and due to the fact everyone is so short termed in their thinking it probably won't happen. It could though... It will happen. Necessity will make it unavoidable. Unfortunately the transition will be painful to much of humankind, and probably bloody. But we'll get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Victorian said: Iain Duncan Smith's think tank. Not exactly private, eh? Sure it is. It's not a government department coming up with this. Doesn't matter if IDS is involved in the Think Tank or not it's a private organisation putting forward ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Sure it is. It's not a government department coming up with this. Doesn't matter if IDS is involved in the Think Tank or not it's a private organisation putting forward ideas. Aye ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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