Erik Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 You have a marginally larger home support and have increased attendances since your galvanised behind the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Woosh! I clarified that in my last post. Ok, time to drop of this thread, I've praised time and again your increased support but you all seem to think the only way is up (with regards to attendance) with no risk of it dropping for any reasons. I've accepted the potential, but I guess there is no risks at all. It's great if it works out, but no doubt there will be a lot of frothing in here if it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Woosh! I clarified that in my last post. Ok, time to drop of this thread, I've praised time and again your increased support but you all seem to think the only way is up (with regards to attendance) with no risk of it dropping for any reasons. I've accepted the potential, but I guess there is no risks at all. It's great if it works out, but no doubt there will be a lot of frothing in here if it doesn't Weird - it was YOU who brought average attendances in to the thread was it not?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 It's not silly, it was just a consideration / a discussion point You make a very good point about new stand / Hib may increase attendances and I accept its entirely plausible for that to happen. The peaked comment was a reflection of all clubs apathy if the league resorts to a two horse race. Out of interest, do Hearts have a waiting list for Season Ticket applicants? No waiting list but I think we are limited to how many season tickets we can sell due to limitation of capacity and we either reached that figure or were only a few hundred short of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I think we could achieve 18,500 simply by removing the 1400 cap on travelling support.. I don't think we will, but we could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 I struggle to compare with West Ham. Totally different clubs and fanbase. I'm sure they had a huge waiting list which was just waiting for the capacity increase. This is not the same with Aberdeen. I wasn't comparing West Ham's fan base with Aberdeen's (or Hearts' for that matter). I was simply saying that West Ham fans are now in that period of 'grace' by selling the London Stadium out. I have a friend in the village that I live in who has bought season tickets for him and his son. That's over 400 miles away. The move has created a lot of interest. But the team needs to perform to make it a success. I think we could achieve 18,500 simply by removing the 1400 cap on travelling support.. I don't think we will, but we could. I think that will very much depend on the uptake of season tickets. I suspect the club will hold off selling STs in the Roseburn until they see what the demand is. Ideally, I would prefer to keep the OF/Aberdeen and Hibs down to two Roseburn sections, but that's just me. Other Hearts fans want to hand the entire Roseburn over to Hibs. If can't take up our allocation then we SHOULD give these teams a full Roseburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 No waiting list but I think we are limited to how many season tickets we can sell due to limitation of capacity and we either reached that figure or were only a few hundred short of it.We are not selling half season tickets this year, and indeed didn't last year, as the club like to have some tickets available for walk ups. Sent from my LG-K350 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Muddie Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Aberdeen's new stadium... Will be nothing compared to Tynecastle. Aberdeens new stadium... Will evaporate the last remaining link between Aberdeen FC 2017 and Aberdeen 1980something Aberdeens new stadium... Is overwhelmingly "meh" Aberdeens new stadium... Represents a gamble Aberdeens new stadium... Is totally irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 By my calculations the new stadium will be approx 6.5 mile from Pittodrie This would be the same distance for us to move to Queensferry, Bonnyrigg or Musselburgh Can't believe any Aberdeen would be happy for this to go ahead Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 By my calculations the new stadium will be approx 6.5 mile from Pittodrie This would be the same distance for us to move to Queensferry, Bonnyrigg or Musselburgh Can't believe any Aberdeen would be happy for this to go ahead Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk Dalkeith and Ratho too, that's mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Have they found the 50 million yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Why is the distance from Pittodrie an issue? We don't all live at Pittodrie, and we won't all go to the old Pittodrie site before heading to Kingsford from there. It's whether the stadium is in Aberdeen that is the issue. The club say if this planning application is rejected, their only option is to leave the city completely, which essentially means Aberdeen will no longer have a senior football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Have they found the 50 million yet? Waiting for a third bid from Cardiff for Jonny Hayes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Why is the distance from Pittodrie an issue? We don't all live at Pittodrie, and we won't all go to the old Pittodrie site before heading to Kingsford from there. It's whether the stadium is in Aberdeen that is the issue. The club say if this planning application is rejected, their only option is to leave the city completely, which essentially means Aberdeen will no longer have a senior football club. It illustrates how far out of town they are moving. I think this is a huge gamble, especially as it comes just as McInnes's team is being dismantled and when he has competition again in the form of ourselves and Rangers. Aberdeen fans are fickle and lazy to say the least, and the chances are high that they will be less successful from now on than during the last 2 or 3 years (and even then they only won a League Cup). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Why is the distance from Pittodrie an issue? We don't all live at Pittodrie, and we won't all go to the old Pittodrie site before heading to Kingsford from there. It's whether the stadium is in Aberdeen that is the issue. The club say if this planning application is rejected, their only option is to leave the city completely, which essentially means Aberdeen will no longer have a senior football club. I'd say it's already out of the city... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 The discussion is mute* when there's very little chance that they'll raise the money required to pay for even these out of town retail park style designs. *Moot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 It illustrates how far out of town they are moving. Pittodrie is at the very east of the city boundary. Kingsford at the very west. All that has been highlighted is the length/width of the city boundary. Loirston would have been at the very South, so 4.8 miles away from Pittodrie, but in Cove so right in the city. I think this is a huge gamble, especially as it comes just as McInnes's team is being dismantled and when he has competition again in the form of ourselves and Rangers. Aberdeen fans are fickle and lazy to say the least, and the chances are high that they will be less successful from now on than during the last 2 or 3 years (and even then they only won a League Cup). Where's the evidence of all this? No-one has left except the loan signings (Maddison might be coming back) and fringe players. If Hayes and McGinn leave this month then yeh, huge blows, but even then it doesn't show evidence of a decline. Hearts are in just as much danger (or more as evidenced in recent reasons) of losing players as us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Pittodrie is at the very east of the city boundary. Kingsford at the very west. All that has been highlighted is the length/width of the city boundary. Loirston would have been at the very South, so 4.8 miles away from Pittodrie, but in Cove so right in the city. Where's the evidence of all this? No-one has left except the loan signings (Maddison might be coming back) and fringe players. If Hayes and McGinn leave this month then yeh, huge blows, but even then it doesn't show evidence of a decline. Hearts are in just as much danger (or more as evidenced in recent reasons) of losing players as us. Paterson aside, don't think we are that bothered at losing players tbh.. none of the rest are massive losses.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Paterson aside, don't think we are that bothered at losing players tbh.. none of the rest are massive losses.. Jamie Walker, Arnaud Djoum? Two there who would be difficult to replace. I actually liked Ozturk and Rossi as players. I know nothing about this new boy you've signed but Souttar for me is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Jamie Walker, Arnaud Djoum? Two there who would be difficult to replace. I actually liked Ozturk and Rossi as players. I know nothing about this new boy you've signed but Souttar for me is overrated. Walker aye.. but he won't go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Aberdeen will have had an insight into what their ground will look like if they watched the Plymouth v Pool game tonight. 3 of the sides very similar in capacity terms, if the finish the other side it will be around 20,000 Edited January 18, 2017 by godandgorgie2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 This would be the same distance for us to move to Queensferry Sounds ideal. What's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elshin Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Where's the evidence of all this? No-one has left except the loan signings (Maddison might be coming back) and fringe players. If Hayes and McGinn leave this month then yeh, huge blows, but even then it doesn't show evidence of a decline. Hearts are in just as much danger (or more as evidenced in recent reasons) of losing players as us. The difference is we have almost paid for our new stand, while having a much lower wage bill in place and still relatively competing with yourselves. While in the meantime we would sell a player to help fund the last of the stand in 16months time our team will benefit from the new stand being in place with extra revenue and no debts that will affect team budgets. Aberdeen have been lucky to keep the core of a team over the past 3/4 seasons which has helped keep consistency, but I can not see you replacing the quality Haynes mcginn Maddison have for next season starting especially when their is talk of new stadiums to help be funded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 You've misread my posts. When I mentioned marginal, it was the drop from last years averages. I did mention the season before you went down where there was a marginal difference then "In 13/14 just before you went down, you averaged 14,183 to the split and dropped post split to 13,802." but then went on to say that you have increased from being successful and galvanising behind your club. I reitterate, I'm not interested in debating who has the larger home fan base. I concede Hearts have repeatedly had more home fans than Aberdeen Hearts have a bigger support than aberdeen, get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Muddie Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Aberdeen will have had an insight into what their ground will look like if they watched the Plymouth v Pool game tonight. 3 of the sides very similar in capacity terms, if the finish the other side it will be around 20,000 It's like a mini hamdump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 So, news.. It seems that Aberdeen got word that planners were going to recommend against their plans so they've requested that the matter not be raised at the council meeting this week and instead be postponed until they've had a chance to persuade further. It's not looking good for them, which is of course no surprise to anyone but the desperately optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 So Edinburgh doesn't have the monopoly on nimbyism then. Did they not have another site identified in Cove or there or there about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 They bleeted about this being the best option. No doubt for Wiggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 So Edinburgh doesn't have the monopoly on nimbyism then. Did they not have another site identified in Cove or there or there about? To be fair, the plans are shit - they need a fleet of 100 buses (that the club will pay for!) to magically appear every fortnight then dissolve back into regular service across Scotland for starters, not to mention everything else, like their parking plans involve people crossing a dual carriageway (we'll build a bridge!) and yes, nimbyism. But reasonable nimbyism I think, which quiet village dweller wants to be infested with a thousand+ cars 20 times a year? The whole thing's obviously unrealistic, no matter what our muttony chums tell us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/sport/football/aberdeen-postpone-talks-over-proposed-stadium-move/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/sport/football/aberdeen-postpone-talks-over-proposed-stadium-move/ According to that Kingsford is now 7 miles east of Aberdeen, so a fleet of boats/helicopters will be needed too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 According to that Kingsford is now 7 miles east of Aberdeen, so a fleet of boats/helicopters will be needed too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Our resident aberdeen fans are quiet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Our resident aberdeen fans are quiet! That's not a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Why cant they demolish Pittodrie and rebuild there? They have the room. Seems mad to take the fans out into the boonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Why cant they demolish Pittodrie and rebuild there? They have the room. Seems mad to take the fans out into the boonies. I imagine a lot of the funding would come from the sale of Pittodrie, or at least the land it's on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny1874 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Why cant they demolish Pittodrie and rebuild there? They have the room. Seems mad to take the fans out into the boonies.I may be wrong but I think they are relying on the cash from developing Pittodrie into housing to build the new stadium. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Am I the only one who had to look up the meaning of "nimbyism".....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I imagine a lot of the funding would come from the sale of Pittodrie, or at least the land it's on! Shame that. Perhaps they can fans fund raise and pay for the Pittodrie redevelopment. A bit like Hibs...oh wait the noo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Why cant they demolish Pittodrie and rebuild there? They have the room. Seems mad to take the fans out into the boonies. Don't think they have the room or the cash tbh, shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Don't think they have the room or the cash tbh, shame. But...but...Theyre the third force in Scottish football! They MUST have money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Why cant they demolish Pittodrie and rebuild there? They have the room. Seems mad to take the fans out into the boonies. You'd almost think they had someone on their board who is a house-builder and is desperate to get his hands on some prime house-building land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Seems you be they asked for the vote to be deferred because they thought it was going against them Edited October 6, 2017 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 You'd almost think they had someone on their board who is a house-builder and is desperate to get his hands on some prime house-building land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I may be wrong but I think they are relying on the cash from developing Pittodrie into housing to build the new stadium. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk And if they can make the 50 million required for the new stadium from building houses on Pittodrie then it just shows how much builders must be making all round the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Our resident aberdeen fans are quiet! Have some sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Am I the only one who had to look up the meaning of "nimbyism".....? Not in my back yard (nimby) has been in common use for ages. It is one reason that Edinburgh will never get a Hydro type music venue for instance. The sheep's choice of site is an odd one and is so far out of town that the people up there must think that the club is pushing for the cheapest bit of land rather than the most suitable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc-jambo Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 You'd almost think they had someone on their board who is a house-builder and is desperate to get his hands on some prime house-building land Surely not? I'm shocked - yes shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 diddy club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corryjambo Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Our resident aberdeen fans are quiet! They were all out making their way to the site of their new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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