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The audacity of this is quite something. You do understand that the publication you quote from is from a partisan political party.

 

You do understand that all the quotes supporting the abolition of the Council Tax, on the site except one, come from a period when it was SNP policy to abolish the Council Tax and is not being disputed by anybody.

 

The decision to change that policy was taken in 2009. The BBC may be a better source. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7882302.stm The policy has not been reintroduced. I'm sure you are aware that we have had a Council Tax Freeze for several years and that has been the policy until a few months ago. Presumably you understand that you cannot have two different policies that are mutually exclusive i.e. a freeze and abolition. The SNP is not like the Labour Party when you can be for and against things at the same time e.g. Trident, Tax credits, freezing Council tax, etc.

 

If you read the BBC source you will understand why the commitment of the SNP was not kept i.e the Labour party voted against it with Andy Kerr saying"I am pleased for the hard-working families of Scotland who won't have to pay this ludicrous tax," added Mr Kerr, whose party said it would make Scotland the highest-taxed part of the country.

 

They united with the Tories, as so frequently happens nowadays, in both reason (highest taxed part of the country) and deed, by voting with the Tories to prevent the removal of the Council Tax.

 

There has been a promise to consult on Council Tax with the outcomes being put to the country. This has happened. We have had some reforms and the Council Tax is no longer frozen. By your logic though the SNP have broken their promise to freeze the Council Tax. I expect when the bills go up your party will complain that they broke the 2011 manifesto promise to freeze the Council Tax

 

Unless of course you know different.

 

How are you getting on with the reappraisal of the information you posted on the SNP abandoning their assessment proposals? Care to substantiate your comments or offer an apology to those you misinformed.

 

Down to 16% in the polls - cant be many Labour stalwarts left now.

 

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/04/16/snp-manifesto-2011/snp-manifesto-2011.pdf

 

If you look at the attached link to a pdf of the SNP manifesto you will see that Salmond gives a clear pledge to replace Council yousing the exact same words as Labour quoted. Despite claiming deep research you only looked at a summary page.

 

Your link to the BBC does not show that Swinney had abandoned replacement of the Council tax only postponed it to the next Parliament. Your claimed thorough research is again lacking and you have mislead this board twice and should acknowledge that.

 

url=https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/04/16/snp-manifesto-2011/snp-manifesto-2011.pdf]https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/04/16/snp-manifesto-2011/snp-manifesto-2011.pdf[/url]

 

If you look at the attached link to a pdf of the SNP manifesto you will see that on Page 3 Salmond gives a clear pledge to replace Council using the exact same words as Labour quoted. Despite claiming deep research you only looked at a summary page.

 

Your link to the BBC does not show that Swinney had abandoned replacement of the Council tax only postponed it to the next Parliament. Your claimed thorough research is again lacking and you have mislead this board twice and should acknowledge that.

 

Whether the Down to 16% in the polls - cant be many Labour stalwarts left now.

 

 

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The audacity of this is quite something. You do understand that the publication you quote from is from a partisan political party.

 

You do understand that all the quotes supporting the abolition of the Council Tax, on the site except one, come from a period when it was SNP policy to abolish the Council Tax and is not being disputed by anybody.

 

The decision to change that policy was taken in 2009. The BBC may be a better source. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7882302.stm The policy has not been reintroduced. I'm sure you are aware that we have had a Council Tax Freeze for several years and that has been the policy until a few months ago. Presumably you understand that you cannot have two different policies that are mutually exclusive i.e. a freeze and abolition. The SNP is not like the Labour Party when you can be for and against things at the same time e.g. Trident, Tax credits, freezing Council tax, etc.

 

If you read the BBC source you will understand why the commitment of the SNP was not kept i.e the Labour party voted against it with Andy Kerr saying"I am pleased for the hard-working families of Scotland who won't have to pay this ludicrous tax," added Mr Kerr, whose party said it would make Scotland the highest-taxed part of the country.

 

They united with the Tories, as so frequently happens nowadays, in both reason (highest taxed part of the country) and deed, by voting with the Tories to prevent the removal of the Council Tax.

 

There has been a promise to consult on Council Tax with the outcomes being put to the country. This has happened. We have had some reforms and the Council Tax is no longer frozen. By your logic though the SNP have broken their promise to freeze the Council Tax. I expect when the bills go up your party will complain that they broke the 2011 manifesto promise to freeze the Council Tax

 

Unless of course you know different.

 

How are you getting on with the reappraisal of the information you posted on the SNP abandoning their assessment proposals? Care to substantiate your comments or offer an apology to those you misinformed.

 

Down to 16% in the polls - cant be many Labour stalwarts left now.

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/04/16/snp-manifesto-2011/snp-manifesto-2011.pdf

 

If you look at the attached link to a pdf of the SNP manifesto you will see that Salmond gives a clear pledge to replace Council yousing the exact same words as Labour quoted. Despite claiming deep research you only looked at a summary page.

 

Your link to the BBC does not show that Swinney had abandoned replacement of the Council tax only postponed it to the next Parliament. Your claimed thorough research is again lacking and you have mislead this board twice and should acknowledge that.

 

url=https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/04/16/snp-manifesto-2011/snp-manifesto-2011.pdf]https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/04/16/snp-manifesto-2011/snp-manifesto-2011.pdf[/url]

 

If you look at the attached link to a pdf of the SNP manifesto you will see that on Page 3 Salmond gives a clear pledge to replace Council using the exact same words as Labour quoted. Despite claiming deep research you only looked at a summary page.

 

Your link to the BBC does not show that Swinney had abandoned replacement of the Council tax only postponed it to the next Parliament. Your claimed thorough research is again lacking and you have mislead this board twice and should acknowledge that.

 

Whether the Down to 16% in the polls - cant be many Labour stalwarts left now.

 

 

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jambos are go!

The audacity of this is quite something. You do understand that the publication you quote from is from a partisan political party.

 

You do understand that all the quotes supporting the abolition of the Council Tax, on the site except one, come from a period when it was SNP policy to abolish the Council Tax and is not being disputed by anybody.

 

The decision to change that policy was taken in 2009. The BBC may be a better source. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7882302.stm The policy has not been reintroduced. I'm sure you are aware that we have had a Council Tax Freeze for several years and that has been the policy until a few months ago. Presumably you understand that you cannot have two different policies that are mutually exclusive i.e. a freeze and abolition. The SNP is not like the Labour Party when you can be for and against things at the same time e.g. Trident, Tax credits, freezing Council tax, etc.

 

If you read the BBC source you will understand why the commitment of the SNP was not kept i.e the Labour party voted against it with Andy Kerr saying"I am pleased for the hard-working families of Scotland who won't have to pay this ludicrous tax," added Mr Kerr, whose party said it would make Scotland the highest-taxed part of the country.

 

They united with the Tories, as so frequently happens nowadays, in both reason (highest taxed part of the country) and deed, by voting with the Tories to prevent the removal of the Council Tax.

 

There has been a promise to consult on Council Tax with the outcomes being put to the country. This has happened. We have had some reforms and the Council Tax is no longer frozen. By your logic though the SNP have broken their promise to freeze the Council Tax. I expect when the bills go up your party will complain that they broke the 2011 manifesto promise to freeze the Council Tax

 

Unless of course you know different.

 

How are you getting on with the reappraisal of the information you posted on the SNP abandoning their assessment proposals? Care to substantiate your comments or offer an apology to those you misinformed.

 

Down to 16% in the polls - cant be many Labour stalwarts left now.

 

 

If you look at the attached link to a pdf of the SNP manifesto you will see that on Page 3 Salmond gives a clear pledge to replace Council using the exact same words as Labour quoted. Despite claiming deep research you only looked at a summary page.

 

url=https://www.pdf-arch...ifesto-2011.pdf]https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/04/16/snp-manifesto-2011/snp-manifesto-2011.pdf[/url]

 

Your link to the BBC does not show that Swinney had abandoned replacement of the Council tax only postponed it to the next Parliament. Your claimed thorough research is again lacking and you have mislead this board twice and should acknowledge that.

 

Whether the my use of the term 'controversial' is justified in the light of complaints is a matter of opinion not fact.

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