Jammy T Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 There may still be a debate about his merits but it cannot be doubted he is the only striker we have at present who looks like he will score regularly. Lets change the angle of debate a wee bit. What would we do without him. Who would play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 There may still be a debate about his merits but it cannot be doubted he is the only striker we have at present who looks like he will score regularly. Lets change the angle of debate a wee bit. What would we do without him. Who would play? The thing is JT, we can't do without him at the moment as our other strikers at the club couldn't score in a bag of ******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 There may still be a debate about his merits but it cannot be doubted he is the only striker we have at present who looks like he will score regularly. Lets change the angle of debate a wee bit. What would we do without him. Who would play? Struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It would give Gretna a huge lifeline because our goals would stop totally and we have no one else who can hit the onion bag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 sign someone better for a lot less money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 sign someone better for a lot less money? You have more faith in Vlads transfer window activities than I do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 There may still be a debate about his merits but it cannot be doubted he is the only striker we have at present who looks like he will score regularly. Lets change the angle of debate a wee bit. What would we do without him. Who would play? No problem if he gets injured. just stick a plaster on him and tell him to move his fat arse up the pitch. Did he not play on against kille with a broken toe? I have faith that we will defo bring in 1 or 2 strikers within a week, we will defo need them as elliot is pants ! Would still like to see makela given a decent chance! A lot of people on here don't rate him but how many mintues has he got on the pitch for the 2 years he has being here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 You have more faith in Vlads transfer window activities than I do.... I must be a Are you suggesting we haven't replaced Skacel, Hartley, Pressley, Webster etc with better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 sign someone better for a lot less money? Sign someone better for a lot less money?? your comment doesn't make sense to me JR,a lot less money than what?Velicka is on loan and didn't cost us anything. I would also like to wager he aint a very high earner compared to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I must be a Are you suggesting we haven't replaced Skacel, Hartley, Pressley, Webster etc with better? With Driver, Stewart, Berra and Zaliukas Two of those are in house and none are as good. Although I reckon Ruben is better than Hartley was just before we sold him and Eggy is better than Brellier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Sign someone better for a lot less money?? your comment doesn't make sense to me JR,a lot less money than what? the 3.75M which apparently we won't sell him unless we get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 He he - JR in ironic role reversal shocker..... I'd say Vlads HIT v MISS ratio on signings is 1 hit for every 5 misses. I know you dont really rate Velicka JR but life without him and reliance upon a rare signing hit taking his place and immediately scoring goals scares me a little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 He he - JR in ironic role reversal shocker..... I'd say Vlads HIT v MISS ratio on signings is 1 hit for every 5 misses. I know you dont really rate Velicka JR but life without him and reliance upon a rare signing hit taking his place and immediately scoring goals scares me a little... we have already had this seasons hit with Ruben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 He he - JR in ironic role reversal shocker..... I'd say Vlads HIT v MISS ratio on signings is 1 hit for every 5 misses. I know you dont really rate Velicka JR but life without him and reliance upon a rare signing hit taking his place and immediately scoring goals scares me a little... Agreed it's scary thinking of our signing policy, but if it's true we've got a temporary manager and are getting a real manager who are allowed to choose the players they sign, signing players shouldn't be quite such a lottery as it has been. And Velicka has done a lot better of late. If he can keep up that level of performance, I'll rate him higher than I did up till recently. On Saturday, he even threatened to go the full 90 minutes without resorting to hobbling with an injury. I thought I was seeing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 the 3.75M which apparently we won't sell him unless we get? In todays market i agree with the quoted figure,if Rangers think cousin is woth 3.5 million then velicka imo is worth more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 In todays market i agree with the quoted figure,if Rangers think cousin is woth 3.5 million then velicka imo is worth more. so it'll be no problem to sign a striker for less than 3.75M surely? e.g. Naismith, Boyd, McCormack and Mcdonald. could've signed the four of them for WAY less than 3.75M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 so it'll be no problem to sign a striker for less than 3.75M surely? e.g. Naismith, Boyd, McCormack and Mcdonald. could've signed the four of them for WAY less than 3.75M. Give me a name that YOU would like Hearts to go for then?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Is this not all pie in the sky anyway as he is Kaunas' player? Or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Give me a name that YOU would like Hearts to go for then?. I'd have signed scott McDonald 18 months ago when he was begging to join Hearts or Hibs. Right now, I'd be in for McCormack. But due to the rep our club has at the moment, I think we'd have no chance. If our club had a better reputation, I think we'd be able to lure him away with the promise of better pay AND regular first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Is this not all pie in the sky anyway as he is Kaunas' player? Or is it just me? No, you're not a Kaunas player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop1874 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Although I reckon Ruben is better than Hartley was just before we sold him and Eggy is better than Brellier. we really miss his drive in the middle, he was a proper box to box midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'd have signed scott McDonald 18 months ago when he was begging to join Hearts or Hibs. Right now, I'd be in for McCormack. But due to the rep our club has at the moment, I think we'd have no chance. If our club had a better reputation, I think we'd be able to lure him away with the promise of better pay AND regular first team football. McDonald is a good shout,i wanted us to go for him also. This is just my opinion but i believe Velicka is a far more prolific finisher than McCormack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 we really miss his drive in the middle, he was a proper box to box midfielder not really for the 6 months before we sold him on. I agree in the cup winning season he was amazingly good, he lost his way before we sold him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 we really miss his drive in the middle, he was a proper box to box midfielder Aye his missus box and his tart on the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 If Velicka were to get injured then we could always rely on Callum Elliot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyseymour Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 sign someone better for a lot less money? that's called a contradiction in terms???? anyway what did Velicka cost and what does he earn....I suspect that Nade is earning a lot more judging by the car he drives and he's faded after a positive first game against the Huns....quality doesnae come cheap....and despite what you may think, Velicka is showing quality .... plenty of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laganas2005 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 If Velicka were to get injured then we could always rely on Callum Elliot. :eek::eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 sign someone better for a lot less money? I recognise that you have attempted to answer this already by talking about his respective value but this player cost nothing and on a monthly basis does not cost us anywhere near as much as other players. Any sale would surely (and correctly) bring a profit to Kaunas, meaning that a player we had for nothing would earn us nothing when sold. So, you think that we could get a better player for less than nothing? Sadly some folk are never happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'd have signed scott McDonald 18 months ago when he was begging to join Hearts or Hibs. Right now, I'd be in for McCormack. But due to the rep our club has at the moment, I think we'd have no chance. If our club had a better reputation, I think we'd be able to lure him away with the promise of better pay AND regular first team football. Would I be correct then in saying that you would have us get rid of our top goalscorer and only approach players we have no choice of signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I recognise that you have attempted to answer this already by talking about his respective value but this player cost nothing and on a monthly basis does not cost us anywhere near as much as other players. Any sale would surely (and correctly) bring a profit to Kaunas, meaning that a player we had for nothing would earn us nothing when sold. So, you think that we could get a better player for less than nothing? Sadly some folk are never happy. Sobered up Saaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I recognise that you have attempted to answer this already by talking about his respective value but this player cost nothing and on a monthly basis does not cost us anywhere near as much as other players. Any sale would surely (and correctly) bring a profit to Kaunas, So you think it's correct for Hearts to be used as a shop window, taking in whatever mediocre players Kaunus have to offer, showcasing them in the SPL (to the detriment of HMFC's results), and then allowing Kaunus to pocket the profit if any of the "players/diddies" they send us turn out to be any good? meaning that a player we had for nothing would earn us nothing when sold. So, you think that we could get a better player for less than nothing? I'd say the cost of taking in players from Kaunus has been MUCH MUCH more than just a monetary thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Would I be correct then in saying that you would have us get rid of our top goalscorer and only approach players we have no choice of signing? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 So you think it's correct for Hearts to be used as a shop window, taking in whatever mediocre players Kaunus have to offer, showcasing them in the SPL (to the detriment of HMFC's results), and then allowing Kaunus to pocket the profit if any of the "players/diddies" they send us turn out to be any good? Should Hearts get the transfer fee for Roman Bednar? If we have a player on loan, we cannot expect to get the transfer fee for their future sale. What do you think? That is what your post states, although you seem to apportion a certain amount of blame for our teams position on our top goal scorer so it does not surprise me that you may post that. WK, ;-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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