TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Just a sample, and a rumour about a sample. And biddys. Don't cash in just yet. Edinburgh votes should count for double #we'refromthecapital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Kellner turned up at Ingliston. If Yes win he will be the biggest laughing-stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Edinburgh votes should count for double #we'refromthecapital Agreed - except Pilton and Leith of course. They shouldn't count at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1185 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Did that independence woman just say the threats from Westminster are the worst any government have ever gin it's people? Jeezo, what utter trip. God forbid if these people ever had to endure real persecution, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 predicted big NO a wee while back - still think that though really nervous. I will be genuinely gutted if yes win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 North Lanarkshire probably in first in an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 And so it begins the right wing Tories start the chat around exclusion of Scottish Members from some affairs though you have to laugh at the talk of wanting equal powers to those of the Scottish parliament..... I was not aware we had more power than the UK parliament or will do so. That 'West Lothian question' never really went away did it. The move to federalism within the UK has truly begun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 ruth Davidson absolutely giddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Did that independence woman just say the threats from Westminster are the worst any government have ever gin it's people? Jeezo, what utter trip. God forbid if these people ever had to endure real persecution, Atrocious stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Is anyone other than Kelner having a go at calling it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 When did postal votes become so prevalent? I think I heard Ruth Davidson say approx 18% of the vote was postal. She was also very bullish with the No split, could be as high as 70/30 to No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 ruth Davidson absolutely giddy Maybe she's been near the catnip. I think over the piece she has been one of the better campaigners. It must be tricky being a tory in this debate. Compare to Nicola Sturgeons "We will not be ruled by Tory Toffs" tirades. That may have won her some votes in certain areas but it alienated others and showed up her true colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 BBC reporting very high turnout estimates, perhaps above 89% in Edinburgh. 89% turnout in Edinburgh Is that overall or just the postal vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I think I heard Ruth Davidson say approx 18% of the vote was postal. She was also very bullish with the No split, could be as high as 70/30 to No Are they talking about Edinburgh postal votes or nation wide ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Yes get above 45% and lose then the SNP will have won in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Maybe she's been near the catnip. I think over the piece she has been one of the better campaigners. It must be tricky being a tory in this debate. Compare to Nicola Sturgeons "We will not be ruled by Tory Toffs" tirades. That may have won her some votes in certain areas but it alienated others and showed up her true colours. However what she said was partly correct.. we are ruled by a bunch of toffs.........look at the cabinet and where they were schooled. Labour has a similar feel to it on a UK level.......we do not have a mix of population representing the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Is that overall or just the postal vote? Just postal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) [modedit, off topic material removed] Sorry mods Edited September 18, 2014 by salecc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not confirmed but initial view looks around 71% yes in Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not confirmed but initial view looks around 71% yes in Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1185 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 And so it begins the right wing Tories start the chat around exclusion of Scottish Members from some affairs though you have to laugh at the talk of wanting equal powers to those of the Scottish parliament..... I was not aware we had more power than the UK parliament or will do so. That 'West Lothian question' never really went away did it. The move to federalism within the UK has truly begun. I've always wondered why should Scottish MPs get a vote on mates which don't effect us? A federal UK sounds good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not confirmed but initial view looks around 71% yes in Dundee I take it there were no polls for specific regions, otherwise these figures don't mean very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Despite the prediction that this might embolden or encourage Irish republicans, I can't see a mention of this referendum on the An Phoblacht webpage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not confirmed but initial view looks around 71% yes in Dundee That's very specific... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I've always wondered why should Scottish MPs get a vote on mates which don't effect us? A federal UK sounds good to me Or an independent Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Yes get above 45% and lose then the SNP will have won in any case. I was wondering when that would appear. In a way thats understandable as Devo max has been won. However true Independence is gone for a generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinkster Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Yes get above 45% and lose then the SNP will have won in any case. Hibs cup final chat. You can sing as loud as you want. You lose, you lose. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Highlands apparently big Yes win as well, samples from a couple of boxes have them between 55-65% Yes, depends how that translates across all the boxes of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Yes get above 45% and lose then the SNP will have won in any case. I assume you mean for doing so well to get close (if indeed this is what happens) but not sure how the SNP could claim that as a win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1185 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Or an independent Scotland? No thanks. I'm British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not confirmed but initial view looks around 71% yes in Dundee Presumably that's from a Yes Twitter source. If Dundee votes 71-29 Yes then Yes will win by 2-to-1 nationwide. Do you really think that will happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Yes get above 45% and lose then the SNP will have won in any case. Why do you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 That's very specific... It is for sampling just saying what the tweet says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The bookies odds have nothing to do with their assessment of Yes votes or No votes. The odds are determined by the bets, so if the bookies are showing long odds for Yes and short odds for No all that means is that most of the money is being bet on No - but it doesn't mean that bookies have some kind of inside knowledge of the count. Why would it? Not according to Paddy Power the other night. There's not enough money taken in to make a difference on politics and the odds are pretty much made up with intel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 However what she said was partly correct.. we are ruled by a bunch of toffs.........look at the cabinet and where they were schooled. Labour has a similar feel to it on a UK level.......we do not have a mix of population representing the people. It doesn't matter if she is correct or not - the point was she immediately alienated a large number of potential support for Yes, and at the same time started dividing the nation. That divisiveness got worse when "Team Scotland" appeared, implying if you didn't vote Yes you were not Scottish. Again that divisive campaigning I think may prove costly to them. Well I hope so anyway - long way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Twitter activity worldwide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Liz to make a statement tomorrow regardless of the outcome. Probably knows already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Presumably that's from a Yes Twitter source. If Dundee votes 71-29 Yes then Yes will win by 2-to-1 nationwide. Do you really think that will happen? Dundee could be an exception it is a big SNP area but not that big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1185 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Carmichael going on about island self-determination now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 No thanks. I'm British. Yet you have a problem with Scottish MPs voting on English matters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Twitter activity worldwide ******* TRIDENT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 ******* TRIDENT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It is for sampling just saying what the tweet says Fair play...didn't clock that it was sampling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not according to Paddy Power the other night. There's not enough money taken in to make a difference on politics and the odds are pretty much made up with intel. I missed that. Got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Postal vote turnout is usually much higher than the general turnout. 2011 saw 77% http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/excel_doc/0006/141378/SP-postal-and-admin-data-WEB.xlsx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Hibs cup final chat. You can sing as loud as you want. You lose, you lose. Deal with it. Where is the LIKE button! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I take it there were no polls for specific regions, otherwise these figures don't mean very much. Yes the polls do split be region, but the accuracy reduces the more you split. Glasgow is yes in polls, as is Dundee. Borders very strong No, Aberdeen No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) It doesn't matter if she is correct or not - the point was she immediately alienated a large number of potential support for Yes, and at the same time started dividing the nation. That divisiveness got worse when "Team Scotland" appeared, implying if you didn't vote Yes you were not Scottish. Again that divisive campaigning I think may prove costly to them. Well I hope so anyway - long way to go. So she was right Hardly going to split the vote of those who would be upset at that remark.....'the toffs' were pretty much No in any case and remember you address your remarks to get votes from the majority not to suck up to 'the toffs'......not that I'm suggesting you are one of course Edited September 18, 2014 by CJGJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 ******* TRIDENT! My first chuckle of the evening....well done sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Yes the polls do split be region, but the accuracy reduces the more you split. Glasgow is yes in polls, as is Dundee. Borders very strong No, Aberdeen No. Glasgow was all over the place in polls...but more often No than Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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