Coburg Hearts Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 The only thing that is a bomb-scare is this thread. Some dreadful posts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Zal is awesome and I'm less pleased when he is out. That being said, webster and mcgowan/barr/Mrowiec would be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 He's been dreadful in two of the last three derbies. No, he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Tbh, I'm not his biggest fan but he strolls through derby games. He will be a miss. What. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Now, regular pop pickers will know I am not Zaliukas' biggest fan, but, the day I worry about suspensions against that bottom end rabble hasn't dawned yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 No, he's not. If conceding a penalty/getting sent off and scoring an own goal doesn't merit the title of "bombscare" in two of our last three derbies then I'm lost quite frankly. I don't have anything against him but I can't say I'm overly bothered about him missing out tbh. Webster will be given the arm band and McGowan will slot in nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 If conceding a penalty/getting sent off and scoring an own goal doesn't merit the title of "bombscare" in two of our last three derbies then I'm lost quite frankly. I don't have anything against him but I can't say I'm overly bothered about him missing out tbh. Webster will be given the arm band and McGowan will slot in nicely. Hopefully forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barasa Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Great news that one of he most overrated and mistake prone defenders in the league misses a big match which is when he usually makes his errors. So yeah, great news. Delighted he won't feature. I don't get some people's attitude to Zal on here. Yeah he is prone to a 'bombscare' moment every few matches, but for some fans he seems to be the scapegoat for most of our failings this season. Only Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen have conceded less than us in the league, so surely if Zal was 'one of the most mistake prone defenders in the league' then we'd have conceded a lot more, no? And let's not forget we probably wouldn't have a game this Saturday if it wasn't for our fantastic captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 FFS people are happy about our captain, and one of the best defenders in the league, being out through suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 FFS people are happy about our captain, and one of the best defenders in the league, being out through suspension More "not bothered" rather than happy, from me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I don't get some people's attitude to Zal on here. Yeah he is prone to a 'bombscare' moment every few matches, but for some fans he seems to be the scapegoat for most of our failings this season. Only Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen have conceded less than us in the league, so surely if Zal was 'one of the most mistake prone defenders in the league' then we'd have conceded a lot more, no? And let's not forget we probably wouldn't have a game this Saturday if it wasn't for our fantastic captain Aberdeen have conceded 32. We've only conceded 29. We've got the third best defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hearts fans are a bemusing lot eh? I love you all but some of you are just arseholes, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_til_i_die Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Great news that one of he most overrated and mistake prone defenders in the league misses a big match which is when he usually makes his errors. So yeah, great news. Delighted he won't feature. Have to agree with this I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Aberdeen have conceded 32. We've only conceded 29. We've got the third best defense. how many games has zal missed already? serious question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Zal strolls derby games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby2Gibson Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hearts fans are a bemusing lot eh? I love you all but some of you are just arseholes, frankly. Got to agree with this. Why anybody is all over this thread happy we've a suspension to our captain, breaking up our established centre half partnership is frankly beyond me. But I'm forgetting, what do Paulo and Meester Jim know about football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_til_i_die Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Got to agree with this. Why anybody is all over this thread happy we've a suspension to our captain, breaking up our established centre half partnership is frankly beyond me. But I'm forgetting, what do Paulo and Meester Jim know about football? Best of a bad lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby2Gibson Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Best of a bad lot? Aye maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Zal strolls derby games? Only Hearts fans could somehow find it within themselves to attempt a character assasination on a Hearts defender who's derby record stands up to anyones in the last ten years. But aye, lets all be grateful he's missing. Falkirks 2007 player of the year will have O'Connor and Griffiths in his back tail I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Only Hearts fans could somehow find it within themselves to attempt a character assasination on a Hearts defender who's derby record stands up to anyones in the last ten years. But aye, lets all be grateful he's missing. Falkirks 2007 player of the year will have O'Connor and Griffiths in his back tail I'm sure. Zaliukas was honking in the 2-2 game at Fester last April and he could have cost us a win on New Years day as well. As for Barr, he's shown he can step in and do a decent job in the past few weeks. It's Hibs we're playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 It's Hibs we're playing... Yes, and Captain Zaliukas' record is marvelous. Wee Darren? Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Zaliukas was hardly troubled in the last derby. His own goal was unfortunate but he played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Zaliukas is 1 of the top defenders in the SPL. He makes the odd mistake, but who doesn't. Personally I'm looking forward to a Scottish Cup Quarter Final which we are in thanks to our Captain's heroic performance and late winner in the last round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Gavin Gunning Shaun Hutchison Ryan McGowan Mark Reynolds Thomas Rogne Zander...oops sorry he is doon south now Shaun Hutchison. Mark Reynolds. HOW ON EARTH HAS THIS POST GONE UNNOTICED. Christ on a shitey bike. I genuinely despair at fellow Hearts fans sometimes, I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barasa Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Aberdeen have conceded 32. We've only conceded 29. We've got the third best defense. Seems I can't interpret the league table properly. Emphasises my point better though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barasa Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 how many games has zal missed already? serious question Played 28 matches in the league this season - so he's missed one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 That's a real pity so it is. No OG,Penalties,or him getting sent off. Mr Webster can also concentrate on his own game for a change. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ampuOtUm_Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Heart Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Rarely post here but can go on what I hear and have been hearing in the stands over the years as a season ticket holder. The negativity Zaliukas receives baffles me at times. Usual story, Zaliukas does good things, rarely a peep, makes an error all hell breaks loose. He's been a scapegoat for years and will continue to be for a stubborn support. I'm personally of the opinion someone else has already raised, if he eradicated his odd 'bombscare' moments he'd be playing at a better team than us. And for my tuppence I can't help feel the stick Zaliukas gets stems back to his first days at Hearts. He got played in midfield, there was a lot of speculation about Lithuanian favouritism and Romonav 'picking the team' and a lot of 'fans' took out their anger (wrongly whichever way you look at it IMO) on the players on the park. Lots of shouts of "send him back" occured during his early days, when not only was he new to a team (most players need settling time, particularly foreign) he was being played out of position. He then slotted into defence and started to play well. The 'fans' didn't change their tune. And to this day, despite how well he may play he they still remain as they were years ago. I think most don't want to admit Zakiukas is in fact a very good defender as by doing so they would be admitting that they were wrong, which they do not want to do. And even for a smaller amount of 'fans' I think dig their heels in as they don't want to face up to the fact that their actions and opinions years ago could have been viewed as xenophobic IMO. Opinions about players can change. I didn't think Black should've been anywhere near the squad a year or two ago and now I'm disappointed when he's not in the team. There was a time Driver not being in the team would be the worst news for the team, now when he gets a start I wonder why someone else isn't on the field in place of him. I can admit when I was wrong. I also encourage and never boo, but that's my perogative I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Rarely post here but can go on what I hear and have been hearing in the stands over the years as a season ticket holder. The negativity Zaliukas receives baffles me at times. Usual story, Zaliukas does good things, rarely a peep, makes an error all hell breaks loose. He's been a scapegoat for years and will continue to be for a stubborn support. I'm personally of the opinion someone else has already raised, if he eradicated his odd 'bombscare' moments he'd be playing at a better team than us. And for my tuppence I can't help feel the stick Zaliukas gets stems back to his first days at Hearts. He got played in midfield, there was a lot of speculation about Lithuanian favouritism and Romonav 'picking the team' and a lot of 'fans' took out their anger (wrongly whichever way you look at it IMO) on the players on the park. Lots of shouts of "send him back" occured during his early days, when not only was he new to a team (most players need settling time, particularly foreign) he was being played out of position. He then slotted into defence and started to play well. The 'fans' didn't change their tune. And to this day, despite how well he may play he they still remain as they were years ago. I think most don't want to admit Zakiukas is in fact a very good defender as by doing so they would be admitting that they were wrong, which they do not want to do. And even for a smaller amount of 'fans' I think dig their heels in as they don't want to face up to the fact that their actions and opinions years ago could have been viewed as xenophobic IMO. Opinions about players can change. I didn't think Black should've been anywhere near the squad a year or two ago and now I'm disappointed when he's not in the team. There was a time Driver not being in the team would be the worst news for the team, now when he gets a start I wonder why someone else isn't on the field in place of him. I can admit when I was wrong. I also encourage and never boo, but that's my perogative I suppose. Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Great post Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Now, regular pop pickers will know I am not Zaliukas' biggest fan, but, the day I worry about suspensions against that bottom end rabble hasn't dawned yet. Has this really been lost in the morass of "HE'S SHITE/HE'S AMAZING"? A bunch of shitebags, all'y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Shaun Hutchison. Mark Reynolds. HOW ON EARTH HAS THIS POST GONE UNNOTICED. Christ on a shitey bike. I genuinely despair at fellow Hearts fans sometimes, I really do. Don't despair Malky, just accept you dinnae have a clue what your talking aboot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Zaliukas is 1 of the top defenders in the SPL. He makes the odd mistake, but who doesn't. Personally I'm looking forward to a Scottish Cup Quarter Final which we are in thanks to our Captain's heroic performance and late winner in the last round. I'm glad I read all the posts before adding my reply because I was going to say this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Shaun Hutchison. Mark Reynolds. HOW ON EARTH HAS THIS POST GONE UNNOTICED. Christ on a shitey bike. I genuinely despair at fellow Hearts fans sometimes, I really do. Oh, I noticed it. I just noticed it for what it was - a dreadful attempt at trolling - and chose to ignore it. Ryan McGowan a better centre back than Zaliukas despite about 2 SPL games in that position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Rarely post here but can go on what I hear and have been hearing in the stands over the years as a season ticket holder. The negativity Zaliukas receives baffles me at times. Usual story, Zaliukas does good things, rarely a peep, makes an error all hell breaks loose. He's been a scapegoat for years and will continue to be for a stubborn support. I'm personally of the opinion someone else has already raised, if he eradicated his odd 'bombscare' moments he'd be playing at a better team than us. And for my tuppence I can't help feel the stick Zaliukas gets stems back to his first days at Hearts. He got played in midfield, there was a lot of speculation about Lithuanian favouritism and Romonav 'picking the team' and a lot of 'fans' took out their anger (wrongly whichever way you look at it IMO) on the players on the park. Lots of shouts of "send him back" occured during his early days, when not only was he new to a team (most players need settling time, particularly foreign) he was being played out of position. He then slotted into defence and started to play well. The 'fans' didn't change their tune. And to this day, despite how well he may play he they still remain as they were years ago. I think most don't want to admit Zakiukas is in fact a very good defender as by doing so they would be admitting that they were wrong, which they do not want to do. And even for a smaller amount of 'fans' I think dig their heels in as they don't want to face up to the fact that their actions and opinions years ago could have been viewed as xenophobic IMO. Opinions about players can change. I didn't think Black should've been anywhere near the squad a year or two ago and now I'm disappointed when he's not in the team. There was a time Driver not being in the team would be the worst news for the team, now when he gets a start I wonder why someone else isn't on the field in place of him. I can admit when I was wrong. I also encourage and never boo, but that's my perogative I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Oh, I noticed it. I just noticed it for what it was - a dreadful attempt at trolling - and chose to ignore it. Yep. I've genuinely no idea who Gavin Gunning is, despite his - presumably - dozens of international caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yep. I've genuinely no idea who Gavin Gunning is, despite his - presumably - dozens of international caps. Not surprised at that statement, here's a wee help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Gunning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yep. I've genuinely no idea who Gavin Gunning is, despite his - presumably - dozens of international caps. He scored against us two weeks ago. But still, anyone saying he's better than Zal Webster, Mulgrew, Bocanegra. Maybe Goian. Then comes Zal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 He scored against us two weeks ago. But still, anyone saying he's better than Zal I still don't know who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Rarely post here but can go on what I hear and have been hearing in the stands over the years as a season ticket holder. The negativity Zaliukas receives baffles me at times. Usual story, Zaliukas does good things, rarely a peep, makes an error all hell breaks loose. He's been a scapegoat for years and will continue to be for a stubborn support. I'm personally of the opinion someone else has already raised, if he eradicated his odd 'bombscare' moments he'd be playing at a better team than us. And for my tuppence I can't help feel the stick Zaliukas gets stems back to his first days at Hearts. He got played in midfield, there was a lot of speculation about Lithuanian favouritism and Romonav 'picking the team' and a lot of 'fans' took out their anger (wrongly whichever way you look at it IMO) on the players on the park. Lots of shouts of "send him back" occured during his early days, when not only was he new to a team (most players need settling time, particularly foreign) he was being played out of position. He then slotted into defence and started to play well. The 'fans' didn't change their tune. And to this day, despite how well he may play he they still remain as they were years ago. I think most don't want to admit Zakiukas is in fact a very good defender as by doing so they would be admitting that they were wrong, which they do not want to do. And even for a smaller amount of 'fans' I think dig their heels in as they don't want to face up to the fact that their actions and opinions years ago could have been viewed as xenophobic IMO. Opinions about players can change. I didn't think Black should've been anywhere near the squad a year or two ago and now I'm disappointed when he's not in the team. There was a time Driver not being in the team would be the worst news for the team, now when he gets a start I wonder why someone else isn't on the field in place of him. I can admit when I was wrong. I also encourage and never boo, but that's my perogative I suppose. That's a great post. You summed things up a lot more eloquently than I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Not surprised at that statement, here's a wee help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Gunning As a season ticket holder and proper Hearts man, I've seen all of those players play. Presumably you've not if you've stuck to your one man boycott :greggy: I wouldn't swap Zaliukas for any of them, btw. A year ago folk were claiming Majstorovic was much better than Zaliukas, wish they would learn that some gimp who has one or two half decent games isn't all of a sudden the bees fecking knees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 As a season ticket holder and proper Hearts man, I've seen all of those players play. Presumably you've not if you've stuck to your one man boycott :greggy: I wouldn't swap Zaliukas for any of them, btw. A year ago folk were claiming Majstorovic was much better than Zaliukas, wish they would learn that some gimp who has one or two half decent games isn't all of a sudden the bees fecking knees 1/10 ex top bhoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 1/10 ex top bhoy So you have seen them all play in the flesh then? Genuine question. Oh, and "ex"... pffffahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 We'll miss him next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkJambo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 The money zaliukas has made from hearts is disgusting. He's an abysmal player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 When he scored that own goal the first thing that popped into my head was this thread, I knew it'd be bumped up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkJambo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 why don't you name some SPL defenders who are better this should be fun I can think of Webster, Mulgrew and Bocanegra Honestly? how much data can the forum hold? I won't waste my time. You're entitles to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. The day Zaliukas leaves will be a great day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Honestly? how much data can the forum hold? I won't waste my time. You're entitles to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. The day Zaliukas leaves will be a great day Seen him much in the last 4 years, Mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkJambo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Seen him much in the last 4 years, Mark? Yeah, probably ten times or so a season on the internet and a couple of times in person. Just because I don't live in the country doesn't mean I haven't seen him enough to realise he's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yeah, probably ten times or so a season on the internet and a couple of times in person. Just because I don't live in the country doesn't mean I haven't seen him enough to realise he's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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