Jamdub Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 hours ago, N Lincs Jambo said: Just want to say a big thank you to FF especially (I know there are others) for all your contributions to this thread. You have done a great job on what the SMSM have omitted to do and kept us all informed of the various shenanigans at Ibrox. Additionally you have done this in a manner which relied on facts not heresay or supposition even at times when the facts favoured the blue AC. There are a few great posters on JKB and FF is one of the very best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Footballfirst said: As I said in subsequent posts, TOP only requires that shares be bought if the purchaser(s) will exceed the 50% threshold, between their existing holding(s) and new acceptances. The threshold ruling only affects parties involved in share purchases who hold 30% to 50% of a company's shares between them. If the party taking over control of a company has already acquired in excess of 50%, then the offer to buy out other shareholders is unconditional. The best example of that was when Bidco acquired the majority shareholding in HMFC from UBIG/Ukio. Bidco had to make an offer for all other shares, which was unconditional because Bidco already held 79%. As in the Rangers case, shareholders were free to accept or reject the offer to buy their shares. Thanks for your answers ff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 11 hours ago, N Lincs Jambo said: Just want to say a big thank you to FF especially (I know there are others) for all your contributions to this thread. You have done a great job on what the SMSM have omitted to do and kept us all informed of the various shenanigans at Ibrox. Additionally you have done this in a manner which relied on facts not heresay or supposition even at times when the facts favoured the blue AC. There are a few great posters on JKB and FF is one of the very best! I support this post and sentiments as well. There’s a new vocation awaiting FF in his retirement. Investigative journalist. Sad thing is though no paper would have the balls to employ him, especially here in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 12 hours ago, N Lincs Jambo said: Just want to say a big thank you to FF especially (I know there are others) for all your contributions to this thread. You have done a great job on what the SMSM have omitted to do and kept us all informed of the various shenanigans at Ibrox. Additionally you have done this in a manner which relied on facts not heresay or supposition even at times when the facts favoured the blue AC. There are a few great posters on JKB and FF is one of the very best! Absolutely spot on, FF has done a marvelous job of discovering and presenting the facts of the events at Ibrox, something which our esteemed media should be all over, but for some reason would rather not report, which leaves it up to people like FF to do it. Yet from time to time we see people come on this thread wanting it closed down or questioning why there is a thread about Rangers in the first place. It's almost as if they don't want the facts to come to light and be reported, presumably for reasons best known to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Absolutely spot on, FF has done a marvelous job of discovering and presenting the facts of the events at Ibrox, something which our esteemed media should be all over, but for some reason would rather not report, which leaves it up to people like FF to do it. Yet from time to time we see people come on this thread wanting it closed down or questioning why there is a thread about Rangers in the first place. It's almost as if they don't want the facts to come to light and be reported, presumably for reasons best known to themselves. Yup, Cheers FF Much as I have enjoyed Rangers' stumbles I can't see anything left which will trip them up as much as their implosion back in 2012 .... but here's hoping ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I hope Dave King is heading for a big fall......... one day! Although a lot of folk suggest he is intellectually challenged, he does seem to have an ability to dodge the bullets! One day .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Jam to day for Rangers and for me it will work sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: I hope Dave King is heading for a big fall......... one day! Although a lot of folk suggest he is intellectually challenged, he does seem to have an ability to dodge the bullets! One day .......... He is fly, no doubt about that. The financial meltdown around Sevco with continual loans and debt for equity must fail st some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deevers said: He is fly, no doubt about that. The financial meltdown around Sevco with continual loans and debt for equity must fail st some point. Maybe.. but they are banking on improving by the Yr, like doing well in Europe and the likes They have the fan base to get by by the Yr unless they fail miserably in Scotland they will just live by the day King himself has said they aint worried by tomorrow, they dont care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, haveyouheard 22 said: Jam to day for Rangers and for me it will work sadly what constitutes working, winning the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: what constitutes working, winning the league? No sure but steady progress and eventually winning the league Foe the record I hope they suffer big time but realistic enough to know thats unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, haveyouheard 22 said: No sure but steady progress and eventually winning the league Foe the record I hope they suffer big time but realistic enough to know thats unlikely . Regarding this season, it could be over by Wednesday in League and Cup and I doubt that means steady progress with the level of monies being spent on the squad. More like a miserable failure. Edited February 16, 2019 by Riccarton3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Deevers said: He is fly, no doubt about that. The financial meltdown around Sevco with continual loans and debt for equity must fail st some point. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Riccarton3 said: . Regarding this season, it could be over by Wednesday in League and Cup and I doubt that means steady progress with the level of monies being spent on the squad. More like a miserable failure. They are only 3 points better off than last season at the same point. Despite, as you say, all that spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Riccarton3 said: . Regarding this season, it could be over by Wednesday in League and Cup and I doubt that means steady progress with the level of monies being spent on the squad. More like a miserable failure. Maybe not ideal .. but if its anything to go by the h un supporters in my work seem to be reasonably content, for now anyway This thread been going a while and lots want to see Rangers drowned ( sound) but the reality is they aint going nowhere bad again, some should just accept the fact rater than have flights of fancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVB Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, haveyouheard 22 said: Maybe not ideal .. but if its anything to go by the h un supporters in my work seem to be reasonably content, for now anyway This thread been going a while and lots want to see Rangers drowned ( sound) but the reality is they aint going nowhere bad again, some should just accept the fact rater than have flights of fancy I would say that no one saw it coming last time. They are still losing money and don’t have the Bank of Scotland behind them this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DVB said: 19 hours ago, Riccarton3 said: . I would love nothing more than seeing Rangers get whats for but i think i'm being realistic by also thinking it wont happen I also think many did see it coming the last time That **** King has no shame and said he would spend every penny coming in on personnel ( not a penny of his I may add) and at this stage has done so, will do the same next season A Europe run was Mana, saved the day, now if they dont qualify next season for the group stage i'm hoping that that might just stop them in there traps Edited February 17, 2019 by haveyouheard 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, haveyouheard 22 said: Maybe not ideal .. but if its anything to go by the h un supporters in my work seem to be reasonably content, for now anyway This thread been going a while and lots want to see Rangers drowned ( sound) but the reality is they aint going nowhere bad again, some should just accept the fact rater than have flights of fancy The ones you know sound like they have a grasp of reality. - not fooled by fleeting time at the top - and reasonably content now playing for second. Aye? Edited February 17, 2019 by Riccarton3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboz Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 $650000 legal bill for failed shares buyout I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) The thing is the whole "concert party thing" was never really about the existence of the new Rangers it was about King... surely their coat is still on just as shoogly a hook as the have always been? King not having to buy up shares make no difference to the financial state of Newco does it ? Edited February 19, 2019 by jock _turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 What’s Jim Traynor done today? Some mirth on Twitter .. hold on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) Can’t find this appearance by Jabba but ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-47298484/bbc-scotland-responds-to-claims-of-bias-against-rangers Edited February 19, 2019 by jambovambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The arrogance of Sevco really drops the jaw - only one other team compares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Hi, I'm Graham Spiers and I love big words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jeff said: Hi, I'm Graham Spiers and I love big words. You prefer "ragin'" to "splenetic" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jambovambo said: You prefer "ragin'" to "splenetic" ? Not overly fussed in fairness. Just always hated Spiers as it's clear as day that he thinks he's better than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Jeff said: Hi, I'm Graham Spiers and I love big words. Wow, a language Luddite in the flesh. The English language is a powerful and rich one - I'd love to see the dumbed- and slimmed-down version of English dictionary that you'd want to see in existence. I don't like "lampoon", it's too fancy! All right! I'll remove it!! (rrrip!) Any other words you don't like?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Jeff said: Not overly fussed in fairness. Just always hated Spiers as it's clear as day that he thinks he's better than everyone else. Now that's different. In this case, attack the man, not the language he uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, redjambo said: Now that's different. In this case, attack the man, not the language he uses. Should I just have called him a fud? Will remember that for the next time he annoys me . Shouldn't have attacked those innocent words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Jeff said: Should I just have called him a fud? Indubitably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Spiers is an arrogant snob. His language is neither here nor there. He's only happy mixing with club chairmen and board members, preferably OF and has contempt for the ordinary supporter. And, yes, he's a fud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, redjambo said: Indubitably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Jeff said: Not overly fussed in fairness. Just always hated Spiers as it's clear as day that he thinks he's better than everyone else. Iv worked with Speirs you would think so from his voice and how he comes across in public but he is actually a very decent bloke was incredibly helpful and indeed patient with myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Machine Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, sadj said: Iv worked with Speirs you would think so from his voice and how he comes across in public but he is actually a very decent bloke was incredibly helpful and indeed patient with myself. Now don't go upsetting those with petty prejudices.. you have been told ... by some who probably have never met the man... he is a jumped up fud, erse or probably "wank" would cover the plethora of diminutives that could be used to describe him . For my part I have no problems with him other than I hate the sound of anybody from Glasgow who speaks with an affected anglofied accent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Link to tonights game if anyone is bored and fancies it. Lot of crap to get through but it's a good stream. The newco is 1 up with fatty moreless scoring. http://vipboxing.net/soccer/iss-4a5226-Rangers-fc-kilmarnock?l=1377836679 Premier Sports Feed via 1XBet No way ws I starting a new thread for this so stuck it in here. Edited February 20, 2019 by graygo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Jabba and Robertson make a huge fuss about anti- sevco bias, shortly before major replay in the Cup. Ref quickly denies opponents pen then sends off their keeper controversially. Sevco cruise to easy victory. Mission accomplished. Job done. Is that how it works? Put money on a repeat of this in the cup game v sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, jambovambo said: Jabba and Robertson make a huge fuss about anti- sevco bias, shortly before major replay in the Cup. Ref quickly denies opponents pen then sends off their keeper controversially. Sevco cruise to easy victory. Mission accomplished. Job done. Is that how it works? Put money on a repeat of this in the cup game v sheep. Indeed i feel sorry for Aberdeen the SFA and their referees will do everything they can to get the mighty rangers to Hampden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, EIEIO said: Indeed i feel sorry for Aberdeen the SFA and their referees will do everything they can to get the mighty rangers to Hampden. Imagine the whole Aberdeen end walked out in protest ... that would be class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie_Burns Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 hours ago, jambovambo said: Jabba and Robertson make a huge fuss about anti- sevco bias, shortly before major replay in the Cup. Ref quickly denies opponents pen then sends off their keeper controversially. Sevco cruise to easy victory. Mission accomplished. Job done. Is that how it works? Put money on a repeat of this in the cup game v sheep. It's for the best remember, after all we don't want Scotland brought to a standstill by all the civil unrest which is bound to ensue otherwise... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie_Burns Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 hours ago, jambovambo said: Jabba and Robertson make a huge fuss about anti- sevco bias, shortly before major replay in the Cup. Ref quickly denies opponents pen then sends off their keeper controversially. Sevco cruise to easy victory. Mission accomplished. Job done. Is that how it works? Put money on a repeat of this in the cup game v sheep. It's for the best remember, after all we don't want Scotland brought to a standstill by all the civil unrest which is bound to ensue otherwise... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Rangers announce a profit for the first six months trading this financial year. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47360315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, SUTOL said: Rangers announce a profit for the first six months trading this financial year. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47360315 Means absolutely nothing if they aren't turning a profit at the end of the year. Talking like almost breaking even is an achievement. Sevco are a cancer and they need to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, indianajones said: Means absolutely nothing if they aren't turning a profit at the end of the year. Talking like almost breaking even is an achievement. Sevco are a cancer and they need to die. Rangers have announced a £5.2m overall profit in their unaudited trading results for the six months to December. Could there be a be a little creative accounting in the first half of the year. Let us see what comes out in the wash at the year end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: Rangers have announced a £5.2m overall profit in their unaudited trading results for the six months to December. Could there be a be a little creative accounting in the first half of the year. Let us see what comes out in the wash at the year end. I'd put money on them operating at a loss again. What was it last year? 17 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, indianajones said: I'd put money on them operating at a loss again. What was it last year? 17 million? Will be very surprised if they make inroads into their cumulative losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 The half year profit is not unexpected, at least by me. They had six full houses in the Europa League plus the prize money that went with it, which probably earned then something in excess £12m from that source alone. Had they gone out in a qualifying round, the picture would have looked pretty bleak. Their costs however have rocketed along with their increased revenue. I would still anticipate a full year loss come the end of June, as there is little opportunity to match the revenue of the first half. The club has forecast being close to break even on an EBITDA basis at year end. Even if they achieve that, then amortisation in particular will see them report a substantial loss at year end. The amortisation figure from the last full year was £7.4m, so could be indicative of the quantum of the final loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 The latest protest action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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