Vlad-Stupid Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Im sure I read that the SPL will pay up on any unpaid transfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Maybe not. But if the SPL can threaten sanctions for a club paying its employees late, surely it can insist on Rangers meeting its football debts to another member club. Could. Won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Maybe not. But if the SPL can threaten sanctions for a club paying its employees late, surely it can insist on Rangers meeting its football debts to another member club. I thought the SPL followed this though. Instead of giving prize money directly to Rangers for finishing 2nd they would settle outstanding football debts to other member clubs i.e. us? I may be talking pish but I'm sure I read this somewhere recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=210510&st=160 Halarioos. "Massive Financial Meltdown" © Jim Whyte 2012 Not even joking, I might hang myself if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If they can't afford to pay for Lee he should return to the club. They have got him for sweeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If there is not a cracked crest in tomorrows papers there never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 So if they're fecked for Europe, they'll still probably finish 2nd if it's only a 10 point deduction but does this mean 3rd will get into the Champs League qualifiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchies75 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 To be involved in European football next season you have to submit audited accounts to Uefa by 31st March - Can you submit audited accounts while in administration? If not they have until 31st March to come out of administration, if not 3rd place will be in Champs League qualifiers next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skivingatwork Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Will Doncaster be hastily arranging a conference call to discuss further penalties and sanctions if fixtures and payments cannot be met? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) http://forum.rangers...c=210510&st=160 Halarioos. "Massive Financial Meltdown" ? Jim Whyte 2012 The only way we can get through this is if we don't point fingers. We unite as the greatest support in the world, which we already are.Those who wish to abandon us are free to go. But don't think of coming back when the sleeping giant rises. For Rangers! Edited February 13, 2012 by Lionel Richie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Maybe not. But if the SPL can threaten sanctions for a club paying its employees late, surely it can insist on Rangers meeting its football debts to another member club. Good luck with that one, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 So if they're fecked for Europe, they'll still probably finish 2nd if it's only a 10 point deduction but does this mean 3rd will get into the Champs League qualifiers? And 6th place could get into Europe (provided the Scottish cup winner has finished in a league European place.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 So if they're fecked for Europe, they'll still probably finish 2nd if it's only a 10 point deduction but does this mean 3rd will get into the Champs League qualifiers? This is what I've been asking. ITV says they need a license which is granted at the start of each season so I guess they'd need to be out of administration by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'm thinking the Rangers lawyers have had a heads up that the tax case is going to go against them - so this is the first step to limit the damage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) http://forum.rangers...c=210510&st=160 Halarioos. "Massive Financial Meltdown" ? Jim Whyte 2012 I'm in tears reading that Edited February 13, 2012 by Tom Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Will Doncaster be hastily arranging a conference call to discuss further penalties and sanctions if fixtures and payments cannot be met? No.Too busy searching for precedents even more favourable to Rangers than the Parma one he dug up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world_3 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I wonder what ticketus (sp) make of this development?! What have they got their loan secured against?? Hopefully Ibrox Stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Wow a wee wow. Lets just see how the SPL and SFL will bend over backwards to accomodate Rangers... I think the 25 point ban is if a club does not get itself out of Administration before the start of the season. So 10 + 15. I can't wait to hear what Mad Vlad has to say about this. Rangers won't be allowed into Europe so we really have to push for 3rd/2nd place now to try and get Champs league qualifying stages. Maybe even let Kello play again. What a day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Most splendid news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthy2k Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 IF we get the rest of the Wallace cash in one lump sum, instead of dribbles over 10's of months... that should go a pretty decent way to helping us out of the current sticky patch. Anyone experience on how these things usually go and how long for parties to get their cash?> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I thought the SPL followed this though. Instead of giving prize money directly to Rangers for finishing 2nd they would settle outstanding football debts to other member clubs i.e. us? I may be talking pish but I'm sure I read this somewhere recently. That's what I thought too. Any cash owed to Rangers through the SPL would be redirected to settle outstanding debts to other members. Aha, here...found this in the SPL rules: Defaulting ClubsC9.1 If any Club defaults in making payment of any sum or sums due to the Company and/or to another Club the Board shall be entitled to apply any sums which, under these Rules, would otherwise be payable to the defaulting Club by the Company in discharge of any debt due by such Club in default to the Company and/or such other Club in such manner as the Board shall determine. C9.2 If, in the opinion of the Board, there are grounds to believe that a Club may not fulfil or be able, on the basis of information available to the Board, to fulfil all or any of its fixture obligations in Official Matches in the course of a Season then the Board may withhold, retain and/or defer payment of any sums which would otherwise be payable and/or be expected to be paid by the Company to such Club until such time as the Board is satisfied that such fixture obligations have or will be fulfilled. C9.3 The Board may require interest to be paid to the Company and/or to such other Club by such a Club in default on such a sum or sums so due and the balance or balances from time to time outstanding until paid in full, at the rate of 2% above the base lending rate of the Bank of England as same may vary from time to time compounded on the first day of each calendar month and the Board shall be entitled to apply any sums which, under these Rules, would otherwise be payable to the defaulting Club by the Company in discharge of any interest so payable by such Club in default to the Company and/or such other Club in such manner as the Board shall determine. C9.4 This Rule C9 shall be without prejudice to any sanction in relation to such default otherwise imposed in terms of these Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albishop Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 As long as we get the money for Wallace, this could be the best thing to happen to Scottish football in years. All eyes are firmly fixed on the GFA, who will be looking for excuses not to dock Rankgers the 10 points or desperately trying to find a way to let them into Europe. If both these points don't happen, then the GFA will be exposed and all hell will break loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Surely the SPL would hand any money due to Rangers straight to us to cover the Lee Wallace fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'm thinking the Rangers lawyers have had a heads up that the tax case is going to go against them - so this is the first step to limit the damage... Could this not work out badly for them then? Surely liquidation is extremely possible if they've had to go into administration BEFORE the case has been settled? And HMRC aren't likely to accept a huge loss in the CVA are they especially seeing as they would most definitely be over the 75% required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since.1902 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think tonight will be the first time in years that ill tune into the real radio phone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I wonder what ticketus (sp) make of this development?! What have they got their loan secured against?? That money is now gone probably in an off shore bank account in one of CWs Dodgy companies Will Rangers New Co get to do the same thing and mortgage 4 years seson ticket money ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 This is magnificent news. Although I'll bet that SDM will still be given an easy time of it by the snout in the trough weedgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think tonight will be the first time in years that ill tune into the real radio phone in. The phone lines are probably already busy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavyGravy Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I cant wait for Chick Young and his cronies to play the "Death of Scottish Football" card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 That money is now gone probably in an off shore bank account in one of CWs Dodgy companies Will Rangers New Co get to do the same thing and mortgage 4 years seson ticket money ? I can't see them getting much back for that. How many of Rangers current fans will pay to go see them in Division 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 "Not trying to be negative here bears, but does this mean rangers could be finished for good?" If I drank coffee, it would be all over my screen right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If you go down into Govan today, You're sure of a big surprise. If you go down into Govan today, You'd better go in disguise. For every bear that ever there was Will gather there for certain because Today's the day the Teddy Bears have their panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 AW FFS that's another thing they've beaten us to Always the Bridesmaid And what about Peter Lawell's statement earlier saying they had a business plan that didn't need Rangers. or anyone, to help them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 We must now more than ever stand behind Rangers FC. This is not about petty grudges against Whyte, Ally or anyone. This is about being a bear in the hour of need. No surrender. I just can't take the bear thing seriously. Sounds so ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think tonight will be the first time in years that ill tune into the real radio phone in. I wouldn't. You'll just get completely incoherent weedgie tubes phoning in and talking complete garbage. Tune in to Sportsound instead and you'll get completely incoherent weedgie tubes in the studio talking complete garbage. It'll be like Holocaust deniers tonight at the Beeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Are we really in a position to gloat? If we settle the tax bill and pay the players wages....then for the short term....yes....yes we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyggY_R3jU8&feature=youtube_gdata_player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'm only interested in hearing the views of the hun who burst into tears on Jim Traynor's show a few weeks back. "ADMINASTRASHUN? AH MEAN, THIS IS THE ONLY JOY AH GET OUT OF LIFE, KNOW?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 There fans forum has went into meltdown http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showforum=1 there not happy chappies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The Huns server has crashed. A bit like their football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Rangers haven't defaulted on the Wallace transfer fee (yet). However, Hearts should already be in touch with the SPL requesting that they retain any sums up to the value of the balance of the transfer, rather than allow any sums to be advanced to RFC to enable them to see out this season's fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Are we really in a position to gloat? If we settle the tax bill and pay the players wages....then for the short term....yes....yes we are. Oh yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 according to STV Ally McCoist was told today in a meeting with Whyte, Andrew Ellis and Ally Russell. I love to think the meeting after a bit of talking went like this CW "So Ally we have some good news and some bad news, which do you want first" AM "er..ok...the good news" CW "the good news is that we have finally signed up Cousin, though it is subject to international clearance." AM "thats good news boss, it will be good to have a striker even though he is not one of the many players I requested to replace Jelavic. So what is the bad news?" CW "well, er, the board have sent documents to the court of session to put the club into adminstration, you are going to lose a number of your squad and every Saturday will have many angry fans. Good luck with it we are off to holiday in Monaco. Bye." All three quickly leave the room faster the Usain Bolt. In a way, I feel sorry for McCoist, he waits for his turn to take over, Smith finally leaves, a new owner comes in and promises him ?5m a season in spending, you start the season looking good then everything goes wrong, your star player picks a season ending injury, you owner sells your next best player in the last minute of the window with no replacement. And now the club is in administration. He must be wondering why he even bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Oh dear, looks like their server isn't as good as ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Are we really in a position to gloat? If we settle the tax bill and pay the players wages....then for the short term....yes....yes we are. Yes we are thanks for playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Are we really in a position to gloat? If we settle the tax bill and pay the players wages....then for the short term....yes....yes we are. Saying that I was having a wee browse on some other forums and they seem to think we're in the same position as Rangers in terms of a tax case and EBT's. I thought we where just guilty of not paying HMRC when we should be but have we been doing the EBT thing under Ogilvie as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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