Gay Parents

[Miller Jambo 60]

Agreed, but the point is a heterosexual couple will bring their kid(s) up with a normal attitude whereas a gay couple will portray homosexuality as being normal, because that's just the way they think.

 

Gays should not be allowed to bring up children. End of.

 

 

Yessssssssssssssss, agreed mate, not cricket as they say.

Think theres a few on here

[bighusref]

I think you'll find I am the animal sexpert around these parts. Many animals have gay sex. Some to show dominance(like in prison) and others for pleasure, in species with strict mating seasons some resort to gay sex.

 

Some animals, famously dolphins. Are capable of rape, that can't be natural. Considering animals only have sex to procreate and never for pleasure. Oh wait.

 

LP, you are blatantly outing yourself as a regular viewer of animal porn with this post.

[Therapist]

LP, you are blatantly outing yourself as a regular viewer of animal porn with this post.

 

Agreed. He appears to be a seriously troubled individual.

 

Anyway, I'm off down my non-gay gym for a spot of spin cycling. Laters.....

[bighusref]

What annoys me is the current culture which says if you object to homosexual practices, you are homophobic. Garbage. Just because you think that a person's particular lifestyle is not ideal, or good for society as a whole, does not mean you would want any harm to befall that person or that you harbour hatred towards them.

 

There seems to be a growing attack on freedom of speech in this regard. IMO as long as you are not inciting hatred or violence towards someone, you should have the freedom to say what you like.

 

It is also strange that certain groups are protected while others are not.

 

The term "homophobia" describes a person or action that is intolerant or contempt for homosexuals and the acts they carry out. Your post above seems to think that the term means that you harbour hatred or wish harm on others, that is not correct. People that are homophobic show it in varying levels.

 

You are entitled to your opinion Scott, it is a free country and we are all entitled to our own views. It cannot be argued that the example you state above is homophobic in nature. What I would add is that you have not even stated that is your opinion and I recognise that.

[jambojackbilly]

A loving home that is offered for children in care is great news

 

The idea of two males as the role model does not seem right to me

 

Mothers offer a different type of love and affection than males do at times, its a shame to deny them that female way when it's possible to do so or does one of the two gay dads camp it up even more in an attempt at the female role he can never fully deliver ??

[The Doctor]

quite frankly ....much as you may hate it ,the church (of all denominations) is on trial here....(not personally!) but what on earth has been going on in 'churchs'?

 

do you deny that theres been anything to consider? ie do i want to send my kids to a church?

 

not intensionly cretenious

 

 

Firstly in your crass stupidity and ignorance you've lumped homosexuality and paedophilia together. In fact homosexuals are far less likely to be paedophiles.

 

Secondly you've inferred that as a church minister I am to be equated with paedophiles. I was talking about my opinion and my background, you said that was part of the 'problem' and have since said that all churches and 'churchmen' cannot be trusted not to abuse children. How dare you. You have no right whatsoever to make these kinds of accusations.

 

Frankly I don't want you sending your kids to church, throwing around spurious and ignorant accusations would put me and my volunteers at risk, if your children are as cretinous as you we could all be trouble.

 

My opinion of paedophile priests is that they are vile and abhorrent. I met a paedophile Church of Scotland minister once (who was serving a sentence in HMP Shotts) I was reviled by him, nauseous. They are not Christian men, they are not following Jesus. They have nothing whatsoever to do with the kingdom of God, but are imposters using their position to carry out their sick agenda. Much the same those who have run children homes, youth groups etc. and have been found to be committing such awful acts.

 

It has nothing to do with the gospel of Jesus Christ, of which I am a minister.

 

It also has nothing to do with this thread.

[P-Dizzle]

LP, you are blatantly outing yourself as a regular viewer of animal porn with this post.

 

 

Agreed. He appears to be a seriously troubled individual.

 

Anyway, I'm off down my non-gay gym for a spot of spin cycling. Laters.....

 

 

Beastiality really doesn't do it for me, neither does animal on animal.

 

But what I said is true, sodomy occurs in the animal kingdom. A wild animal doesn't bugger another guy because his parents were two males and he watched too much MTV.

 

It's totally natural, and just because you bat for the pink team. It doesn't take away your paternal instincts, you can still want a child. And having to adopt means you will need to go through very tough tests to prove yourself. If you pass, then you're as suitable as any straight couple who passes the same test. Does a child understand what homosexuality is? No, the only reason they would get bulled for it is if narrow minded people tell their kids that it's wrong and this kid is different.

 

If the child is happy, which they will be, because they're getting a home, with everything they need, then what's the problem? I can't see any downside to this, if some people didn't teach their outdated and wrong views to their children. We wouldn't have homophobia, and the bullying of children.

[Therapist]

But what I said is true, sodomy occurs in the animal kingdom.

 

These events are one-off aberrations, not regular behaviour. Homosexuality is not normal, and no amount of PC hand-wringing revisionism will ever make it so.

[hughesie27]

This thread shouldn't go on as the folk saying aye have slearly made the nae's realise that they have no argument other than their ignorance to back up any claims.

If you want a proper debate then answer the questions posed.

[2NaFish]

These events are one-off aberrations, not regular behaviour. Homosexuality is not normal, and no amount of PC hand-wringing revisionism will ever make it so.

 

List of animals who indulge in homosexuaality. Seems pretty wide-spread and normal to me.

 

Mammals -

African Elephant, Brown Bear, Brown Rat, Buffalo, Caribou, Cat (domestic), Cheetah, Common Dolphin, Common Marmose, Common Raccoon, Dog (domestic), European Bison, Prea

 

Selected birds from the full list:

* Chicken (Domestic), Common Gull, Emu, King Penguin

 

Fish:

* Amazon mollyAmazon molly, Blackstripe topminnowBlackstripe topminnow, Bluegill Sunfish, Char, Grayling, European Bitterling, Green swordtail, Guiana leaffish

* Houting Whitefish

* Jewel Fish

* Least Darter (Microperca punctulata)

* Mouthbreeding Fish

* Salmon

* Southern platyfish

* Ten-spined stickleback

* Three-spined sticklebackThree-spined stickleback

 

Reptiles:

* Anole

* Bearded Dragon

* Broad-headed Skink

* Checkered Whiptail Lizard

* Chihuahuan Spotted Whiptail Lizard

* Common Ameiva

* Common Garter Snake

* Cuban Green Anole

* Desert Grassland Whiptail Lizard

* Desert Tortoise

* Fence Lizard

* Five-lined Skink

* Gopher (Pine) Snake

* Green Anole

* Inagua Curlytail Lizard

* Jamaican Giant Anole

* Laredo Striped Whiptail Lizard

* Largehead AnoleLargehead Anole

* Mourning Gecko

* Plateau Striped Whiptail Lizard

* Red Diamond Rattlesnake

* Red-tailed Skink

* Side-blotched Lizard

* Speckled Rattlesnake

* Water Moccasin

* Western rattlesnake (Crotalus viridisCrotalus viridis)

* Western Banded Gecko

* Whiptail Lizard spp.

* Wood Turtle

 

Amphibians:

* Appalachian Woodland Salamander

* Black-spotted Frog

* Mountain Dusky Salamander

* Tengger Desert Toad

 

Insects and other invertebrates:

* Acanthocephalan Worms

* Alfalfa Weevil

* Australian Parasitic Wasp

* Bean weevil

* Bedbug and other Bug

* Blister Beetle

* Blood-flukes (Schistosoma)

* Blowfly

* Box Crab

* Broadwinged Damselfly

* Cabbage (Small) White (Butterfly)

* Checkerspot Butterfly

* Clubtail Dragonfly

* Cockroach

* Common Skimmer Dragonfly

* Creeping Water Bug

* Cutworm

* Digger Bee

* Dragonfly

* Eastern Giant Ichneumon (wasp

* Eucalyptus Longhorned Borer

* Field Cricket

* Flour beetle

* Fruit Fly

* Glasswing Butterfly

* Grape Berry Moth

* Grape Borer

* Green Lacewing

* Harvest Spider

* Hawaiian Orb-Weaver (spider)

* Hen Flea

* House Fly

* Ichneumon wasp sp.

* Incirrate Octopus spp.

* Japanese Scarab Beetle

* Jumping spider

* Larch Bud Moth

* Large Milkweed Bug

* Large White (Pieris brassicae)

* Long-legged Fly

* Mazarine Blue

* Mediterranean Fruit Fly

* Mexican White

* Midge

* Migratory locust

* Mite

* Monarch Butterfly

* Narrow-winged Damselfly

* Parsnip Leaf Miner

* Pomace Fly

* Queen Butterfly

* Red Ant

* Red Flour Beetle

* Reindeer Warble Fly

* Rose Chafer

* Rove Beetle

* Scarab Beetle (Melolonthine)

* Screwworm Fly

* Silkworm Moth

* Sociable Weaver

* Southeastern Blueberry Bee

* Southern Green Stink Bug

* Southern Masked Chafer

* Southern One-Year Canegrub

* Spreadwinged Damselfly

* Spruce Budworm Moth

* Stable Fly

* Stag Beetle

* Tsetse Fly

* Water Boatman Bug

* Water Strider

[P-Dizzle]

Nice list.

 

Many of them will not be monogamous, so outwith mating season it's more common than you think.

[Therapist]

List of animals who indulge in homosexuaality. Seems pretty wide-spread and normal to me.

 

They may have been seen indulging in such behaviour, but as I stated this will have been a one-off aberration rather than a regular activity.

[2NaFish]

They may have been seen indulging in such behaviour, but as I stated this will have been a one-off aberration rather than a regular activity.

 

Male penguins regularly have monogamous homosexual relationships for life. They mate, build nests and even adopt 'lost' eggs and raise them as their own. All this to absolutely no detriment to the baby penguin.

 

Either its natuaral or its not; and clearly it is.

[P-Dizzle]

Therapist just needs to admit he's had gay thoughts.

 

I think the lady doth protest too much.

[shaun.lawson]

You must pot the brown with that statement.

 

Ah - the "he's defending gay people, so he must be gay himself!" moment. This thread's like a cliche from start to finish. But no, I'm not gay; and that men and women experience pleasure from anal intercourse is common knowledge. Many posters on here will have had anal sex with a heterosexual partner: how odd that, apart from in the opinion of a few (like Therapist), this isn't considered disgusting at all.

 

If men and women weren't meant to experience pleasure from anal sex, the anal G-spot wouldn't exist. Yet it does.

[Generic Username]

You'd think the way folk were protesting about the gays on this thread that there was a real and tangible possibility of Alan Carr turning up at their house and punching their back doors in until it resembled a bag of broken biscuits.

 

Don't worry guys. I think we'll be safe.

[2NaFish]

You'd think the way folk were protesting about the gays on this thread that there was a real and tangible possibility of Alan Carr turning up at their house and punching their back doors in until it resembled a bag of broken biscuits.

 

Don't worry guys. I think we'll be safe.

 

The gays are just as bad as marijuana fiends. Indiscriminate rape is all either of them know.

[P-Dizzle]

If men and women weren't meant to experience pleasure from anal sex, the anal G-spot wouldn't exist. Yet it does.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think it is there for sexual pleasure. It's a defect. The woman's G-spot is there as a natural pain killer during child birth. The male G-spot serves no essential purpose. But it's there, and people know that stimulating it will cause pleasure.

 

It's just as natural as masturbation, it's not nessacery. But humans are designed to seek pleasure.

[shaun.lawson]

I could be wrong, but I don't think it is there for sexual pleasure. It's a defect. The woman's G-spot is there as a natural pain killer during child birth. The male G-spot serves no essential purpose. But it's there, and people know that stimulating it will cause pleasure.

 

It's just as natural as masturbation, it's not nessacery. But humans are designed to seek pleasure.

 

And when it's talked about in the context of a woman 'taking it up the wrong 'un', all the disgust on here seems to just melt away. Just as the same posters who fear the human race dying out because all the gays are apparently taking over will, next week, be back to complaining about too much immigration, and the country being over-populated. I really can't keep up.

[2NaFish]

And when it's talked about in the context of a woman 'taking it up the wrong 'un', all the disgust on here seems to just melt away. Just as the same posters who fear the human race dying out because all the gays are apparently taking over will, next week, be back to complaining about too much immigration, and the country being over-populated. I really can't keep up.

 

Its the new get out clause commonly called 'libertarianism'. It allows folk to pretend that everything is allowed, so long as its stuff they condone.

[P-Dizzle]

And when it's talked about in the context of a woman 'taking it up the wrong 'un', all the disgust on here seems to just melt away. Just as the same posters who fear the human race dying out because all the gays are apparently taking over will, next week, be back to complaining about too much immigration, and the country being over-populated. I really can't keep up.

 

Oh now shaun, that would be jumping to conclusions about some people. Let's just put it down to coincidence and not neoconservative fallacy that plagues these people.

[Feeno]

I could be wrong, but I don't think it is there for sexual pleasure. It's a defect. The woman's G-spot is there as a natural pain killer during child birth. The male G-spot serves no essential purpose. But it's there, and people know that stimulating it will cause pleasure.

 

It's just as natural as masturbation, it's not nessacery. But humans are designed to seek pleasure.

 

 

If wifies is there as a natural painkiller for child birth, then surely the male "G-spot" is there for pain relief when heavy dumping.

[Craigieboy]

Superb thread. Some posters have really nailed their colours to the mast.

 

Also good to see that prejudice & the spread of misinformation is alive & well.

 

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[Seats]

I think it is also the case that many animals eat their young and other eat their own excrement. Does this make it "natural" for humans to do so too?

 

 

[Craigieboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9mi1RX7Ttg&feature=PlayList&p=C95809D4AC9EA220&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=15

 

Be warned that any who consent with gays are basically 'fag enablers'.

 

Unbelievable documentary.

[shaun.lawson]

I think it is also the case that many animals eat their young and other eat their own excrement. Does this make it "natural" for humans to do so too?

 

No, because human beings are civilised creatures. But when we demand people repress their sexuality, it does tremendous harm. Being comfortable with your sexuality is amongst the most important things anyone can do - and nowadays, thankfully, society has moved towards the conclusion that what consenting adults do in private is none of anyone else's business.

[2NaFish]

I think it is also the case that many animals eat their young and other eat their own excrement. Does this make it "natural" for humans to do so too?

 

There is a difference between natural and socially acceptable. In the past several societies have deemed in acceptable to eat babies - usually provided they hadnt breast fed. The fact that we find it abhorrent as a society has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not it is natural.

 

Several posters claimed homosexuality was not natural. Natural means present in or produced by nature. Monogamous homosexual relations exist in nature. Therefore it is natural.

[Therapist]

Male penguins regularly have monogamous homosexual relationships for life. They mate, build nests and even adopt 'lost' eggs and raise them as their own. All this to absolutely no detriment to the baby penguin.

 

Utter nonsense. How can a poofy penguin lay an egg?

[shaun.lawson]

Utter nonsense. How can a poofy penguin lay an egg?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8081829.stm

 

"Homosexuality is nothing unusual among animals," Bremerhaven zoo said on Wednesday.

 

"Sex and coupling up in our world do not necessarily have anything to do with reproduction."

 

Are you just going to carry on denying things that happen and are documented?

[2NaFish]

Utter nonsense. How can a poofy penguin lay an egg?

 

Thats why i said 'adopt'. Not give birth to.

 

In the confusion of the gigantic huddles (sellic sympathisers?) that penguins partake in to stay warm, lots of eggs get lost. Gay penguins will adopt and raise these eggs.

 

You clearly dont like it, but please just accept that it is perfectly natural for the gays to raise kids.

[2NaFish]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8081829.stm

 

Are you just going to carry on denying things that happen and are documented?

 

I think we both know the answer to that.

[Superman]

The gays are just as bad as marijuana fiends. Indiscriminate rape is all either of them know.

 

 

No women in a 15mile radius is safe after I've had a night on Mothers Finest!

[Therapist]

Gay penguins will adopt and raise these eggs.

 

 

These penguins are not gay. They don't bum each other for example, which is a sure fire test of gayness. All they are doing is trying to ensure the species survives.

[shaun.lawson]

 

These penguins are not gay. They don't bum each other for example, which is a sure fire test of gayness. All they are doing is trying to ensure the species survives.

 

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1279583.html

 

The female penguins were flown in especially from Sweden in an effort to encourage the Humboldt penguins at the Bremerhaven Zoo to reproduce.

 

But the six homosexual penguins showed no interest in their new female companions and remained faithful to each other.

 

Therapist = flat earther.

[P-Dizzle]

I think it is also the case that many animals eat their young and other eat their own excrement. Does this make it "natural" for humans to do so too?

 

No. Because our species has no need to do so. Our digestive system works well enough that there would be no nutritional value in eating our own excrement.

 

Some animals eat there young in dangerous situations, when something has them trapped and they must eat their young so they don't die themselves.

 

Humans have an abundance of food that we can eat, if that changed, maybe we would evolve so that eating our own was beneficial.

 

Humans also, have no natural predators. We don't need to resort to such measures.

 

Monkeys have been known to eat rotten apples because it gets them drunk. What kind of behaviour does that resemble. Who knows, maybe the males have one apple to many, lose their inhibitions and shag each other.

[Therapist]

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1279583.html

 

The female penguins were flown in especially from Sweden in an effort to encourage the Humboldt penguins at the Bremerhaven Zoo to reproduce.

 

But the six homosexual penguins showed no interest in their new female companions and remained faithful to each other.

 

Therapist = flat earther.

 

Zoo penguins!!

 

Animals adopt all sorts of strange behaviour when subjected to teh stresses and strains of captivity. The behaviour described in that article - no doubt written by a pro-gay pinko reporter - would simply not be repeated in the wild. Fact. End of.

[2NaFish]

swedish penguins no less!! they're filthy apparently.

 

seriously therapist, walk away from this one.

[Therapist]

seriously therapist, walk away from this one.

 

You'd like that as I am running the gay lobby ragged.

[Guest Roop]

This CLASSIC thread is sweating of latent homosexuality.

 

Therapist, I'm looking camply at you, darling.

 

x

[Therapist]

This CLASSIC thread is sweating of latent homosexuality.

 

Therapist, I'm looking camply at you, darling.

 

x

 

Crack on Roop, but I can assure you I'm not interested.

[chester copperpot]

And when it's talked about in the context of a woman 'taking it up the wrong 'un', all the disgust on here seems to just melt away. Just as the same posters who fear the human race dying out because all the gays are apparently taking over will, next week, be back to complaining about too much immigration, and the country being over-populated. I really can't keep up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You need to read again what you say just below your avatar fella, I was of course, messing about.

 

I couldn't care less if gays adopt a kid or not, doesn't affect me, so I don't care. Each to their own I say. I just wanted a reaction.

[jambojackbilly]

Crack on Roop, but I can assure you I'm not interested.

 

 

You have mail

[Guest Roop]

Crack on Roop, but I can assure you I'm not interested.

 

I love a man who plays hard-to-get.

 

 

I'll PM you some pics.

[shaun.lawson]

You need to read again what you say just below your avatar fella, I was of course, messing about.

 

I couldn't care less if gays adopt a kid or not, doesn't affect me, so I don't care. Each to their own I say. I just wanted a reaction.

 

 

How are we to know if someone'e just messing about though? It's difficult, to say the least! Therapist has been messing about over the last few pages, yet I've no doubt his views on homosexuality aren't for show, and represent what he genuinely believes. It's a great thread though, for all manner of reasons: kudos to Alan Partridge, aka the saviour of Kickback, for starting it.

[Era Macaroons]

Firstly in your crass stupidity and ignorance you've lumped homosexuality and paedophilia together. In fact homosexuals are far less likely to be paedophiles.

 

Secondly you've inferred that as a church minister I am to be equated with paedophiles. I was talking about my opinion and my background, you said that was part of the 'problem' and have since said that all churches and 'churchmen' cannot be trusted not to abuse children. How dare you. You have no right whatsoever to make these kinds of accusations.

 

Frankly I don't want you sending your kids to church, throwing around spurious and ignorant accusations would put me and my volunteers at risk, if your children are as cretinous as you we could all be trouble.

 

My opinion of paedophile priests is that they are vile and abhorrent. I met a paedophile Church of Scotland minister once (who was serving a sentence in HMP Shotts) I was reviled by him, nauseous. They are not Christian men, they are not following Jesus. They have nothing whatsoever to do with the kingdom of God, but are imposters using their position to carry out their sick agenda. Much the same those who have run children homes, youth groups etc. and have been found to be committing such awful acts.

 

It has nothing to do with the gospel of Jesus Christ, of which I am a minister.

 

It also has nothing to do with this thread.

 

crivvins ....wind yer neck in!

 

I didnt mention paedophiles once...thats all your own work.(but its ok , I forgive you )

 

I was referring to the churchs stance on homosexuality and whether I would wish to expose my children to such views(im sure youll clarify exactly what the current stance is), which has everything to do with this thread.

[topcat]

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[Guest Roop]

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OH. HE WENT THERE.

 

 

Edit - damn you TC.

[Therapist]

Therapist has been messing about over the last few pages

 

No I've not.

[topcat]

OH. HE WENT THERE.

 

 

Edit - damn you TC.

 

 

I figured this audience might not be ready for that kind of material

[shaun.lawson]

No I've not.

 

Yes you have.