Tommy Walker Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 https://videocelts.com/2018/09/blogs/fans/sun-reporter-defends-east-coast-problem-as-hearts-fans-spew-their-bigotry-at-motherwell/ Best TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Cuore Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The sad thing is.....This is exactly what these wee dicks want! They will be delighted Celtic fans have taken notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Stupid wee ***** can **** off to ibrox. Continually damaging our great club. No bigots please...We're maroon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Every club has their neds. Why give them the attention they want? It's up to the police to deal with them if they have committed a crime. Not much the club can do if they don't sing their scumbag songs in the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I take it this guy attends a lot of games at Tynecastle given he mentions this is a "constant feature" at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Cuore Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, cosanostra said: Every club has their neds. Why give them the attention they want? It's up to the police to deal with them if they have committed a crime. Not much the club can do if they don't sing their scumbag songs in the stadium. It was in the stadium. And on the way to the stadium and on the train home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Singing sectarian songs Filming you and your mates doing it Posting it online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Identify and issue a stadium ban. No place in our stands for bigoted arseholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) It suits the cellic agenda to tar the entire Hearts support with their sectarian accusations. Unfortunately one or two silly wee laddies are giving them the opportunity. There is no-one worse other than racellic and their bigoted neighbours for promoting this form of tribalism in the Scottish game. Suits their business model. Edited September 17, 2018 by Busby8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanov Stole My Pension Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It makes Hearts supporters look a bit dim. Contrived sectarianism in Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Forza Cuore said: It was in the stadium. And on the way to the stadium and on the train home. Obviously not in our stadium. How could our club be expected to deal with that? Surely it's a matter for the local police to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasermck11 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Who really cares? It’s 10/15 max singing. The fact that it’s being brought up by Celtic fans just shows how much our performances are getting to them. The day we start to bother what that lot are saying about us is the day we should give up. Long may it continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, cosanostra said: Obviously not in our stadium. How could our club be expected to deal with that? Surely it's a matter for the local police to deal with. It would be better if the club took some ownership on the issue, Inspector Clouseau could track these clowns down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_ Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 daft wee kids will be daft wee kids ... vast majority probably dont even understand what their ****ing singing about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The audacity of Celtic fans slating people for the content of a song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Celtic sympathisers trying to deflect away from their club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bauld said: Identify and issue a stadium ban. No place in our stands for bigoted arseholes. It's not really a problem at Tynecastle. The club can handle any problems at home games. We have no control over how individuals behave at away games in or out of the ground. The Police and security staff are not doing their jobs imo. People know they can behave how they like because they are not being challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) I use newsnow.co.uk as a news feed and this was on there from "On Video Celts" today. Sounds like they're starting to feel a bit rattled...??? "Douglas Walker of The Scottish Sun has tried to play down the anti-catholic songs sung by Hearts supporters after their 1-0 win over Motherwell. A large number of Hearts fans share the song book enjoyed by Ibrox fans with a hatred for Catholics and Irish the focal point for their ‘support’. That mentality was highlighted in 2011 when John Wilson attacked Neil Lennon in the dug-out at Tynecastle before being led away by the police to the cheers of the home support. Ann Budge likes to portray Hearts as a family club but has did little to root out the sectarian element who are a constant feature of their support at home and away. Sectarian issues are often portrayed as a West of Scotland problem but it’s clear that the attitudes found and supported by the authorities in Lanarkshire, Ayrshire and Renfrewshire don’t suddenly die out at the Lothians or on some mystery point along the M8." Edited September 17, 2018 by Section Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 We definately need to sort this problem, however, celtic fans are not entitled to an opinion. One of the most political and bigoted gootball clubs on earth. Its at the very foundation of everything they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, frasermck11 said: Who really cares? It’s 10/15 max singing. The fact that it’s being brought up by Celtic fans just shows how much our performances are getting to them. The day we start to bother what that lot are saying about us is the day we should give up. Long may it continue. I care. I don't want my club to be associated with these scumbags. I don't want our youngest supporters exposed to sectarianism and hate. There were a group of around 30 or 40 under the stand singing the Billy Boys song and generally making arseholes of themselves before the game, the police were doing nothing of course. We need to get these twats out of our club and along the M8 where they belong. They will not be missed, I hope Ann Budge and her team are on to it, there seems to be plenty of photos going around to identify them. Oh, and long may it continue you say. Maybe you'd like to follow them to Ibrox Edited September 17, 2018 by upgotheheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 A big pot ,calling a small kettle black, no one of importance will pay them the slightest heed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Yes we have a problem within our support. Is it on the same scale as the two uglies? No I am sure the club will act accordingly after the vandalism caused at Fir Park and will try to weed out the sectarianism We will become more and more scrutinised by the media while we sit at the summit, its what they do when the OF come under threat. HHGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It's certainly not a 'large' number but I have noticed an increase in bigot songs creeping in particularly around the pubs pre match in Gorgie. There's a crowd from Queensferry who have started drinking in Bensons. They think it's appropriate (and a laugh) to sing FTP and war songs about the Luftwaffe. Let's leave bigotry to the 'home' of Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I like the Hello song, it’s a rousing football song and gets the crowd on its feet. However, I’m not religious or bigoted so refrain from any of the naughty bits. But, if it’s going to be used as a stick to beat us with or even faintly used to compare us with either of the arse cheeks, we need to stop it. We’re better than this, better at many levels than them and if we want to continue to hold the moral high ground, retaining our reputation as a forward thinking family team, we need to break away from this crap and never, ever give the west coast press the opportunity to compare us with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: I care. I don't want my club to be associated with these scumbags. I don't want our youngest supporters exposed to sectarianism and hate. There were a group of around 30 or 40 under the stand singing the Billy Boys song and generally making arseholes of themselves before the game, the police were doing nothing of course. We need to get these twats out of our club and along the M8 where they belong. They will not be missed, I hope Ann Budge and her team are on to it, there seems to be plenty of photos going around to identify them. Oh, and long may it continue you say. Maybe you'd like to follow them to Ibrox Why didn't you take bull by horns and confront them rather than calling people scum bags online ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Its a side issue but this was picked up by some non sports journalist last night on twitter. Apparently Edinburgh is just as bad as Glasgow re sectarianism. These neds are just giving the West Coast media and authorities a stick to hit us with. The real question is how to you tackle it? I have no idea. At Tynecastle we have (yes obviously there is still incidents). They think its cool and funny. The more we say its not the bigger the thrill they get doing it. What annoys me is when challenged (I've tried a couple of times) you get abuse and told you don't know the history and traditions of our club. No if you sing that nonsense you clearly don't know the history of our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, frasermck11 said: Who really cares? It’s 10/15 max singing. The fact that it’s being brought up by Celtic fans just shows how much our performances are getting to them. The day we start to bother what that lot are saying about us is the day we should give up. Long may it continue. I care. If fans can stop racism, then they can stop sectarianism. Sadly the government don't really want to stamp out sectarianism and have no interest in doing so, but will quite happily continue to tut at football clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I've been going to hearts games 44 years and these songs always been sung by some ! I'm a Catholic myself as is my family but as a say it's always been there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Barack said: A policeman won't confront 30-40 people in a crowd. Don't see why a civilian should have to potentially put themselves in harms way, mate. I have no opinion on his vernacular. Your right but that being case why come on a fans forum calling people scum bags when wouldn't do it to there face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Would be good if the fuds who sing songs of stupidity would STFU or just crawl back under their rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytebeard Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 We shouldn’t be bothered with what Celtic do. Our answer can’t be, yous do it too. Or you’s are louder. we need to stamp it out. There is no need for it. It’s like a poison, that sadly can spread rapidly. additional policing/stewarding with the strict instructions that any unsavoury songs results in ejection. - got to be the same for away support aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Barack said: I couldn't comment. If he was built like Uche, for example, people would listen. Maybe Uche could sort it all As a say in all my years following hearts these songs have been sung and it's always going to be there for some in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Why didn't you take bull by horns and confront them rather than calling people scum bags online ? Erm, because its not often a great idea as a middle aged out of shape man to confront a gang ( and that's what they are) of wound up dickheads, who may also be drunk. Such wayward bravery in public could easily end up with you getting your head kicked in Likelihood of being listened to by said bell ends= slim Likelihood of receiving loads of abuse/a doing = high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Cuore Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It would be madness to confront a group of boozed up lads who 'are up to their knees' in anyone's blood. I wouldn't unless I had decent backup behind me. The only 'mob' with any clout at a football stadium or train station around the time of a match are the police. They seem reluctant to deal with this and just want it to pass off with as little aggro as possible. Can we as fans do anything about it? It would 100% start trouble. Anyone old enough to remember the casuals getting it tight from the shed in the 80s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 If Anne Budge wants to root out sectarianism at Tynecastle she can start with banning the Terrorist loving drummer that sits in the away end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, whytebeard said: We shouldn’t be bothered with what Celtic do. Our answer can’t be, yous do it too. Or you’s are louder. we need to stamp it out. There is no need for it. It’s like a poison, that sadly can spread rapidly. additional policing/stewarding with the strict instructions that any unsavoury songs results in ejection. - got to be the same for away support aswell Agree. If the same strict rule is applied to all fans then the erse cheeks will suffer much more than the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Erm, because its not often a great idea as a middle aged out of shape man to confront a gang ( and that's what they are) of wound up dickheads, who may also be drunk. Such wayward bravery in public could easily end up with you getting your head kicked in Likelihood of being listened to by said bell ends= slim Likelihood of receiving loads of abuse/a doing = high So just be brave and do it online hiding behind a keyboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) Two wrongs don't make a right but it was constant IRA songs on Friday. Loud and clear live on the tele Edited September 17, 2018 by Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, whytebeard said: additional policing/stewarding with the strict instructions that any unsavoury songs results in ejection. - got to be the same for away support aswell That's easy to do within our support cause its usually only a small number that sing the songs. But when Celtic and rangers take thousands to pretty much all away games and they are all singing are they really going to start throwing them all out? Doubt it. And thats where the problem lies. They get away with it so people in our support think they will get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 We have a minority we’re as Celtic is the majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: If Anne Budge wants to root out sectarianism at Tynecastle she can start with banning the Terrorist loving drummer that sits in the away end Ann. And yes, it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 This is a society problem not a Hearts fan one. Are we really going to have Celtic fans moralise on the subject of offensive chanting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said: We have a minority we’re as Celtic is the majority. Spot on, and it needs to be addressed by the club for both home and away supporters. We have made great inroads over the last couple of decades , however I cannot see it being eradicated if we allow in particular both the OF fans being allowed to sing whatever they want without any action being taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: So just be brave and do it online hiding behind a keyboard Not saying its brave I don't see discussing bigotry on a hearts forum as anything TBH beyond concerned people discussing something. I've also made comments about Donald Trump but haven't burned down his hotel Sectarianism should be viewed with the same severity as racism. Only in Scotland we don't seem to think so That wee girl was removed from the big brother house for her Loyalist twitter posts Its a Scottish disease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: So just be brave and do it online hiding behind a keyboard What a ridiculous statement, they are scum. So let me get this straight you are supposedly a Catholic in your 50s or 60s who is having a go at fans criticising them but rather than criticise them you go after fans complaining. Old groomer alert! Edited September 17, 2018 by Jodami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: So just be brave and do it online hiding behind a keyboard I think you're getting wound up by the wrong bit of this issue, Selkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, doctor jambo said: Not saying its brave I don't see discussing bigotry on a hearts forum as anything TBH beyond concerned people discussing something. I've also made comments about Donald Trump but haven't burned down his hotel Sectarianism should be viewed with the same severity as racism. Only in Scotland we don't seem to think so That wee girl was removed from the big brother house for her Loyalist twitter posts Its a Scottish disease As a say I'm a Catholic myself as is my family but a always remember my grandad telling me our support always signed these songs and also my dad aswell so it's always been there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haj Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Barack said: I couldn't comment. If he was built like Uche, for example, people would listen. Maybe Uche could sort it all out... If there’s one guy who can win us the league whilst simultaneously sorting out our sectarianism issue, it’s Uche. #inuchewetrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jodami said: What a ridiculous statement, they are scum. So let me get this straight you are supposedly a Catholic in your 50s or 60s who is having a go at fans criticising them but rather than criticise them you go after fans complaining. Old groomer alert! No I'm 49 years old and in all my years supporting hearts these songs have been sung , all I'm saying is why if anybody feels so strongly don't they confront the lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: As a say in all my years following hearts these songs have been sung and it's always going to be there for some in my opinion That doesn’t make it right though. I will agree the condemnation on here won’t make one difference to the problem of those singing shite like that. And you honestly can’t expect people to confront those singing and expect there to be a reasoned debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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