August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6828 Some consultation with fans might have been nice before using the club as a recruitment tool for the army. IMHO, this is utter bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Deeds Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I've no issue with it, what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Dirty Deeds said: I've no issue with it, what's the problem? Personally I could do without it but , in the past , it was always games against der Hun . Squaddies on the pitch at half time with their rangers scarves , running up to the away end never seemed a good advert for Hearts or the army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, johnthomas said: Personally I could do without it but , in the past , it was always games against der Hun . Squaddies on the pitch at half time with their rangers scarves , running up to the away end never seemed a good advert for Hearts or the army Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Mind that time they parachuted in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6828 Some consultation with fans might have been nice before using the club as a recruitment tool for the army. IMHO, this is utter bollocks. How's it bollocks? Did you read the link you posted. What's wrong with supporting the armed forces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, johnthomas said: Personally I could do without it but , in the past , it was always games against der Hun . Squaddies on the pitch at half time with their rangers scarves , running up to the away end never seemed a good advert for Hearts or the army Biggest cheer I heard was v rangers (the Burley season) when 4 of the guys parachuted onto the pitch , landed, took off their tops and revealed Hearts tops . Personally I have no issue with it but that’s because I’m a supporter of the armed forces . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Don't the club should be getting involved with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, johnthomas said: Personally I could do without it but , in the past , it was always games against der Hun . Squaddies on the pitch at half time with their rangers scarves , running up to the away end never seemed a good advert for Hearts or the army You couldn't have been at Ibrox when a Jambo squaddie headed to our corner and got a great cheer ! Don't see the issue with this either. No problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) I'm not into it this at all. Don't see why people should get free tickets for Hearts games just because of who they work for (unless they are employed by Hearts). Edited July 25, 2018 by OmiyaHearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dirty Deeds said: I've no issue with it, what's the problem? We're a football club. Not a department of the Ministry of Defence. The army etc. already have plenty opportunities for parades and flag-waving on their own time. I appreciate and honour the WWI link with the club, and the bravery of the players who joined up, but that's a very specific relationship deriving from very specific and tragic circumstances. I surely am not the only one uncomfortable with using a football match to glorify the modern-day armed forces for no particular reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6828 Some consultation with fans might have been nice before using the club as a recruitment tool for the army. IMHO, this is utter bollocks. Eh? What a load of nonsense. Good initiative, well done Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Would be nicer if we showed some support to our NHS staff, or emergency services. People that actually make a difference in our day to day lives. Why does it always have to be the armed forces? Our link up with Erskine i liked, but this along with all the other stuff is just way OTT. Wish we would give it up apart from Celebrating our WW1 team and the associated Batallon - and when i say celebrating i mean respectfully remembering them. Edited July 25, 2018 by Homme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, August Landmesser said: We're a football club. Not a department of the Ministry of Defence. The army etc. already have plenty opportunities for parades and flag-waving on their own time. I appreciate and honour the WWI link with the club, and the bravery of the players who joined up, but that's a very specific relationship deriving from very specific and tragic circumstances. I surely am not the only one uncomfortable with using a football match to glorify the modern-day armed forces for no particular reason. That sounds *so* Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6828 Some consultation with fans might have been nice before using the club as a recruitment tool for the army. IMHO, this is utter bollocks. OMFG. Seriously. In this day and age, this bothers you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, Strachsuit said: That sounds *so* Celtic. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklivi1874 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Only a pant wetter would snivel at this news Whats the big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, August Landmesser said: We're a football club. Not a department of the Ministry of Defence. The army etc. already have plenty opportunities for parades and flag-waving on their own time. I appreciate and honour the WWI link with the club, and the bravery of the players who joined up, but that's a very specific relationship deriving from very specific and tragic circumstances. I surely am not the only one uncomfortable with using a football match to glorify the modern-day armed forces for no particular reason. I completely agree with the last sentence. Won't be long before people mention that we wouldn't be at Newcastle watching Hearts if it wasn't for the army etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: We're a football club. Not a department of the Ministry of Defence. The army etc. already have plenty opportunities for parades and flag-waving on their own time. I appreciate and honour the WWI link with the club, and the bravery of the players who joined up, but that's a very specific relationship deriving from very specific and tragic circumstances. I surely am not the only one uncomfortable with using a football match to glorify the modern-day armed forces for no particular reason. They're not going to press gang the singing section into service, mate. It's only one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, alwaysthereinspirit said: OMFG. Seriously. In this day and age, this bothers you. What day and age? The day and age when we know what the armed forces are used for? The day and age when we see people sent off to die in deserts to protect the interests and profits of foreign oil companies and Saudi bigots? That day and age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: Biggest cheer I heard was v rangers (the Burley season) when 4 of the guys parachuted onto the pitch , landed, took off their tops and revealed Hearts tops . Personally I have no issue with it but that’s because I’m a supporter of the armed forces . Ah so if you don't agree with it you are anti-army ? Poppy fascism is alive and well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, Boab said: They're not going to press gang the singing section into service, mate. It's only one day. If they did, we'd get a good range of sea shanties to join in with though, every cloud I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 If anyone has an issue with this then it's clearly politically motivated. In which case it's no place in football so take that shite elsewhere...Please. We get enough of that from the tossers from West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Budge really wants Hearts to become Military FC eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, August Landmesser said: If they did, we'd get a good range of sea shanties to join in with though, every cloud I suppose... Ha ! True. I'd imagine the sweetie rustlers would be up in arms ( excuse the pun ) at the lyrics to some of those ditties ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scnorthedinburgh Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 As it's hearts backing the covenant, I am fine with this. That has more to do with helping service women and men when not on duty or retired. Given the club has a lot of respect for our players and fans who served, be daft not to sign the covenant and support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, kila said: Budge really wants Hearts to become Military FC eh. And soft and cuddley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: If anyone has an issue with this then it's clearly politically motivated. In which case it's no place in football so take that shite elsewhere...Please. We get enough of that from the tossers from West. So, being anti-Armed Forces Day at Tynecastle is politically motivated and has no place in football, but being pro-Armed Forces Day at Tynecastle is not and does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: We're a football club. Not a department of the Ministry of Defence. The army etc. already have plenty opportunities for parades and flag-waving on their own time. I appreciate and honour the WWI link with the club, and the bravery of the players who joined up, but that's a very specific relationship deriving from very specific and tragic circumstances. I surely am not the only one uncomfortable with using a football match to glorify the modern-day armed forces for no particular reason. Nope you are not the only one. I agree with everything you say. We are a football club some people should remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Don't the club should be getting involved with this Meant to read "I don't think the club should be getting involved with this" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, Boab said: Ha ! True. I'd imagine the sweetie rustlers would be up in arms ( excuse the pun ) at the lyrics to some of those ditties ! The Digger's would have to install thirteen taps of Lamb's Navy Rum! I'd be into that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, johnthomas said: Ah so if you don't agree with it you are anti-army ? Poppy fascism is alive and well I have no problem with the OP’s point ,in fact I think the club should and could possibly have consulted with the fans on it somehow . As to your poppy comment I find it uncomfortable how far some people go to show their respects around Memorial Day . What i I do have an issue with is people like yourself putting words in my mouth , especially when they’re so ****ing wrong !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6828 Some consultation with fans might have been nice before using the club as a recruitment tool for the army. IMHO, this is utter bollocks. Agreed, this is mini-hun stuff, total embarrassment to have troops parade around at Tynecastle every year. I had hoped our club wouldn't stoop to these depths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, August Landmesser said: The Digger's would have to install thirteen taps of Lamb's Navy Rum! I'd be into that... You're coming round already, bud ! A good old knees-up ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) All those ranting about association with the Army, read the article again, its the Armed Forces, of which I had the privilege to serve in the Senior Service for 23 years and there are a good few on here likewise. Edited July 25, 2018 by BelgeJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Absolutely amazing that people have an issue with this. Literally offended by anything, snowflakes going to snowflake I guess but still incredible! Tremendous initiative by Hearts, rightly welcoming and honoring the men and woman who protect and serve our country. Each and everyone of them deserves our respect and gratitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: Why? You're making it sound as though the club are warmongers who are glorifying the invasion of Iraq! Exactly the sort of rubbish that the permanently-offended from the east end of Glasgow come out with. It's one day. It's supporting a range of people across the armed forces who do a fantastic (and brave) job. What's the big deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: What day and age? The day and age when we know what the armed forces are used for? The day and age when we see people sent off to die in deserts to protect the interests and profits of foreign oil companies and Saudi bigots? That day and age? Yes that day and age. The day when it sounds like a local business (Hearts) are giving a little back to some local people for their services. No recruitment drive, no pressure to sign up. Just a nice big thank you for your service and enjoy the game. No ulterior motive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Boab said: They're not going to press gang the singing section into service, mate. It's only one day. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklivi1874 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Chuck Berry said: Agreed, this is mini-hun stuff, total embarrassment to have troops parade around at Tynecastle every year. I had hoped our club wouldn't stoop to these depths. Dont go you wont be missed as for embarrassment look at your post its beamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, BelgeJambo said: All those ranting about association with the Army, read the article again, its the Armed Forces, of which I had the privilege to serve in the Senior Service for 23 years and there are a good few on her likewise. It's still glorifying death and slaughter though. Whether that's at sea, in the air or on land... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Strachsuit said: You're making it sound as though the club are warmongers who are glorifying the invasion of Iraq! Exactly the sort of rubbish that the permanently-offended from the east end of Glasgow come out with. It's one day. It's supporting a range of people across the armed forces who do a fantastic (and brave) job. What's the big deal? It's got shag all to do with a nice day out at the football is the big deal. Same as minute's silences for popes and PMS... Edited July 25, 2018 by August Landmesser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: We're a football club. Not a department of the Ministry of Defence. The army etc. already have plenty opportunities for parades and flag-waving on their own time. I appreciate and honour the WWI link with the club, and the bravery of the players who joined up, but that's a very specific relationship deriving from very specific and tragic circumstances. I surely am not the only one uncomfortable with using a football match to glorify the modern-day armed forces for no particular reason. No you're not the only one and i agree with everything you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, magicTs said: Absolutely amazing that people have an issue with this. Literally offended by anything, snowflakes going to snowflake I guess but still incredible! Tremendous initiative by Hearts, rightly welcoming and honoring the men and woman who protect and serve our country. Each and everyone of them deserves our respect and gratitude. You can have an issue with something without being offended by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Sorry, but explicitly linking the football club with the armed forces is undeniably political and it shouldn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: What day and age? The day and age when we know what the armed forces are used for? The day and age when we see people sent off to die in deserts to protect the interests and profits of foreign oil companies and Saudi bigots? That day and age? Ah. Now your original post makes complete sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Can I just say.............there will clearly be two opinions to this topic. I have no issue with this but, I also know and understand why some people may take issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Scnorthedinburgh said: As it's hearts backing the covenant, I am fine with this. That has more to do with helping service women and men when not on duty or retired. Given the club has a lot of respect for our players and fans who served, be daft not to sign the covenant and support it. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Positive news finally for the rangers/England/brexit/tommy Robinson crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterintheRain Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: Yes that day and age. The day when it sounds like a local business (Hearts) are giving a little back to some local people for their services. No recruitment drive, no pressure to sign up. Just a nice big thank you for your service and enjoy the game. No ulterior motive. Total bollocks. Armed Forces Day was invented by the Blair/Brown regime after the War Crime of invading Iraq. It, along with the fake, "Help for Heroes," was intended to create sympathy for our brave boys, take the pressure of their evil act and brainwash the gullible. Now anybody who doesn't support their propaganda day is a traitor. See how well it worked? HMFC should have nothing to do with it. We have our day to remember. This Glorification of War Criminals. The scum who torture prisoners. The people who happily slaughter children to order. It has no place in any democracy let alone at a sporting event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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