brownkg Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I spoke to Derek Watson at one of the Murrayfield games about this and he said he was working on sorting it out. I even offered to help to clear up the mess so that the trust can be wound up. I ill try and collar him again on Saturday and see where that goes. I am sure the club must have a note of the registered address for the shares but the last time I contacted Jaqui she replied it was NOTHING to do with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, brownkg said: I spoke to Derek Watson at one of the Murrayfield games about this and he said he was working on sorting it out. I even offered to help to clear up the mess so that the trust can be wound up. I ill try and collar him again on Saturday and see where that goes. I am sure the club must have a note of the registered address for the shares but the last time I contacted Jaqui she replied it was NOTHING to do with the club. Thanks for that. It would be in everyone’s interest to get it resolved and closed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Worthing Jambo said: Thanks for that. It would be in everyone’s interest to get it resolved and closed down. I have also spoken to Equiniti re the shares and they said there as no charge just a form to fill in. Will report back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Good man. Am I right in saying that there is a difference between these shares and the Vlad ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Not planning on selling but I have moved house since I bought mine so thanks for reminding me I need to change the address officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 hours ago, brownkg said: I have also spoken to Equiniti re the shares and they said there as no charge just a form to fill in. Will report back next week. I tried to speak to Equinity today but got onto their automted system. This suggests that I cannot have the shares that are in someone elses name, HOMST, transferred to my name. Only the named shareholder can do so So back to HOMST who sadly do not respond to my emails. I also raised this with the club who said contact Equinity! I have been chasing these shares for more than 5 years and even got loyalty points from the club based on my HOMST share certificate. I might take legal advice on as it appears to be a very dodgy position HOMST find themselves in unless the situation is resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 The treasurer email bounced back too. Maybe Brownkg can get somewhere and this can finally be put to bed. It must be bugging someone that was involved so surely they want it resolved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 24/11/2017 at 16:25, davemclaren said: This seens to have been going on for years. Does the Supporters Trust actually still exist? Dave, Is the shareholders association privy to who holds what shares, or is it a case of just proving you are a shareholder? Wondering if there is any information amongst the group that may help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Worthing Jambo said: Dave, Is the shareholders association privy to who holds what shares, or is it a case of just proving you are a shareholder? Wondering if there is any information amongst the group that may help? I don’t think so. These shares must be registered in someone’s name at the moment and they can transfer them to whoever they like, if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I don’t think so. These shares must be registered in someone’s name at the moment and they can transfer them to whoever they like, if they wanted to. Thanks Dave. supposed to be in the trusts name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 11 hours ago, davemclaren said: I don’t think so. These shares must be registered in someone’s name at the moment and they can transfer them to whoever they like, if they wanted to. My understanding is that HOMST were in the process of purchasing 250,000 shares from Pentland Securities Holdings Ltd (Leslie Deans). Whether that transaction was completed I do not know. If so then HOMST probably hold the shsres. If not then shares may still be held by PSH Ltd. Does anyone know if shareholders names are disclosed at Companies House and if so can check listing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, ollie2004 said: My understanding is that HOMST were in the process of purchasing 250,000 shares from Pentland Securities Holdings Ltd (Leslie Deans). PSH seems to have been dissolved in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, ollie2004 said: My understanding is that HOMST were in the process of purchasing 250,000 shares from Pentland Securities Holdings Ltd (Leslie Deans). Whether that transaction was completed I do not know. If so then HOMST probably hold the shsres. If not then shares may still be held by PSH Ltd. Does anyone know if shareholders names are disclosed at Companies House and if so can check listing? I think you can check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: I think you can check. Companies House have a 'bulk' shareholders list on file,(for Heart of Midlothian plc) but you need to phone up to request a copy of it in CD form. (now it might be available as a download, but you still need to contact them to request it) I'm not sure how detailed it is and if it will show all individual shareholders and their addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 7 hours ago, SUTOL said: PSH seems to have been dissolved in 2005. Therefore the shares must have been transferred to someone, presumably HOMST as the certificate I received had a covering letter dated 9 June 2010. In addition I have copies of a series of emails between Derek Watson and Leslie Deans between August and October 2016 discussing this subject. I can only assume the shares were not transferred because of some Companies House red tape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I’m a bit bemused that no one seems to know anything! There must be a raft of ITKers somewhere?! There must be more than two of us with those HOMST certificates? How about we go fifty fifty on the 250,000 shares? Should be worth enough for a pint each Joking aside, it’s time it was resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, Worthing Jambo said: I’m a bit bemused that no one seems to know anything! There must be a raft of ITKers somewhere?! There must be more than two of us with those HOMST certificates? How about we go fifty fifty on the 250,000 shares? Should be worth enough for a pint each Joking aside, it’s time it was resolved. I agree 100% mate. 7 years and counting dince HOMST issued the certificates some 474 I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 11 hours ago, ollie2004 said: I agree 100% mate. 7 years and counting dince HOMST issued the certificates some 474 I think! I can’t believe that the PHMs on here didn’t have one! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 48 minutes ago, Worthing Jambo said: I can’t believe that the PHMs on here didn’t have one! ? Somebody does know but either is possibly afraid to talk or hiding something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I think whoever knows what the score is should be entitled to be give a response before any accusations can be made. However, if no one comes forward, it does make you wonder what happened to those shares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Hopefully find out today? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 54 minutes ago, Worthing Jambo said: Any news? No! Equiniti promised response within 10 working days to my email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 16 hours ago, ollie2004 said: No! Equiniti promised response within 10 working days to my email. Brownkg was going to try and make contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Worthing Jambo said: Brownkg was going to try and make contact. The more people contact Equiniti the more chance we get an answer mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I might know some people that work there. I’ll make enquiries. 1 hour ago, ollie2004 said: The more people contact Equiniti the more chance we get an answer mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On Saturday, December 02, 2017 at 20:06, ollie2004 said: No! Equiniti promised response within 10 working days to my email. Discussed possible share transfer with Equiniti today. Big problem as shares appear not to have been transferred correctly between Leslie Deans business and HOMST. These shares appear to be in limbo until HOMST and Leslie Deans get it sorted. This has been exacerbated by Deans business being disdolved in 2005. Derek Watson - I hope you get this sorted and soon or we may need to consider the next step for the 474 awaiting their shares from the Save Our Hearts campaign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Sorry for the delay in replying. Sadly i never managed to get a old of Derek on saturday and cannot find his contact number anywhere. the reason for my delay is due to my son having an appointment with the beaks at Hampden. suffice to say te SFA are a joke all way through te various guises. I will endevour to speak to Derek again this weekend failing that equiniti will be at the AGM and I can try and quiz them tere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 hours ago, brownkg said: Sorry for the delay in replying. Sadly i never managed to get a old of Derek on saturday and cannot find his contact number anywhere. the reason for my delay is due to my son having an appointment with the beaks at Hampden. suffice to say te SFA are a joke all way through te various guises. I will endevour to speak to Derek again this weekend failing that equiniti will be at the AGM and I can try and quiz them tere. Cheers mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Another week another apology. Derek turned up at 1 minute to kick off, disappeared somewhere at half time and left before the end I never got a chance to speak to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Thanks for your efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 43 minutes ago, brownkg said: Another week another apology. Derek turned up at 1 minute to kick off, disappeared somewhere at half time and left before the end I never got a chance to speak to him It sounds like he knows you are after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 19 hours ago, brownkg said: Another week another apology. Derek turned up at 1 minute to kick off, disappeared somewhere at half time and left before the end I never got a chance to speak to him Does he post on here? All we want is some explanation from him/HOMST as to what has happened to our shares. We are not after his blood - YET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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