Let’s Get Things in Perspective!

[Marooned Abroad]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Bill said:

 

If there was any inconvenience experienced by Partick Thistle and their fans, then they sure as hell let us know about it. I was surprised and disappointed at the level of their complaints but that's Scottish football for you; full of negative, uncompromising, miserable people. I accept the uncertain build-up to the game wasn't ideal, but they could've shown a wee touch of class by showing a sense of solidarity about the situation. It was not to be and PTFC have gone down in my estimation, sadly. I just hope they put Sunday into perspective when they're on their way to Dingwall and the game gets called off at 2pm. 

 

It was much more commercially viable to try and get back to Tynecastle as early as possible hence the overly ambitious September date and the contingency arrangements that followed. Coupled with the dire team on the pitch, we're just going to have to file this season as 'transitional'.

 

However, the stand is now built (if not finished) and it is quite magnificent, if I say so myself from my seat way up near to the top row. It's done now, and one of Scotland's best-loved stadiums is looking pretty bloody impressive. Now we just need to sort the team out. Over time, the stand will generate cash to fund it better than before.

 

 

Spot on, BB. You’ve summed it up perfectly. Great view by the way!!

 

 

 

 

 

[Thomaso]

19 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

 

No beef, where do you think there is beef?

not exactly neutral either, 400 yards form Tynecastle and the stadium allocation benefiting Hearts (as it should).

 

We only took 7,000 (you should let that silly Calderwood comment drift into history, how long ago was it now?) to the game and positive that any Dons fan that wanted to attend could

 

 

Playing at a stadium "400 yards" from your home stadium is not the same as playing at your home stadium.

[Spencer]

There will be a helluva noise in the place when we pump that vermin ****ing filth twice inside 3 weeks 

[bairdy]

First class article !

[IveSeenTheLight]

11 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

 

 

Playing at a stadium "400 yards" from your home stadium is not the same as playing at your home stadium.

 

I accept that, I was just responding that it was not neutral either.

It was a home game for Hearts played very near their home stadium.

[hmfc_liam06]

44 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

 

Nah, our forums are just sh!te and you can get a better debate with opposition views.

 

That would be really strange, being a fan of a club but openly posing as a fan from another club to what? get a reaction.

Nah not for me.

 

I'm a Dons fan, and openly debate and discuss with the clear visibility that I am not a Hearts fan.

 

Honestly, go just **** off to Pie and Bovril.

 

It's creep as **** that you're here...constantly!

[Bazzas right boot]

2 hours ago, Marooned Abroad said:

From Today’s Daily Record

Criticism of Hearts is NONSENSE and they deserve backslapping not backstabbing for getting Thistle game on - David McCarthy

David says Ann Budge deserves huge praise for taking the Gorgie club to where it now stands just years after it was lying in the gutter.

Hearts owner Ann Budge reveals the new stand ahead of kick off on Sunday (Image: SNS)

What a lot of nonsense was spouted over the weekend about Hearts.

Here’s a club that should be held up as a shining light in Scottish football and all that happened was that it got kicked from pillar to post because it bust a gut to get a football match played on time.

Yes, it was hard on Partick Thistle not knowing if the game was on as Ann Budge and Co worked round the clock to make sure they were granted the relevant safety certificates for its shiny new £12m stand.

My sympathies were more for the fans than the players, to be honest. Not knowing for sure if they’d be travelling across the M8 until the morning of the game wasn’t great. I get that.

But spare me the anger from Firhill about their players. It was Alan Archibald’s job to prepare them as if the game was always going ahead, so it ought to have made no difference to them if it had been called off late. After all, it happens every winter when pitches get waterlogged an hour before kick-off.

So Thistle’s players would have trained as normal and they were clearly ready for the match, given they got a 1-1 draw.

I detect a change in attitude towards Hearts in recent times and maybe it’s because Craig Levein isn’t the most popular man in the game.

The new Tynecastle main stand (

He got it wrong with the appointment of Ian Cathro, that’s for sure. And the recruitment of players over the last couple of years has been somewhere south of decent, although nobody can argue that bringing in the likes of Christophe Berra and Kyle Lafferty - proven international operators - wasn’t good business.

Maybe people have short memories, though. Remember where this club was a few short years ago. It was lying in the gutter bleeding to death.

Kyle Lafferty has been a good signing (Image: SNS Group)

‘Blood doesn’t show on a maroon shirt’ was the legendary statement made by John Cumming at the end of the 1956 Scottish Cup Final, which his team won 3-1 against Celtic after he returned to the Hampden pitch with blood streaming from a head wound.

But it was spattered all around the cobbles and sidestreets of Gorgie as Hearts went into administration in June 2013. Good people lost their livelihoods and Scottish football very nearly lost one the cornerstones of our game.

Five years later, this very same club has just announced a healthy profit. Has built a sensational looking new £12m stand to increase the capacity of what was already arguably the stadium with the best atmosphere in the country.

It is now run professionally and with compassion by an owner who has been a supporter all her life.

So, the building of the stand over-ran on its timescale. So what? In 2011 an Edinburgh City Council report said there was no way Tynecastle could be redeveloped and it looked like Hearts would have to move out of their spiritual home forever - not for a few months as they’ve done this season.

A general view of Tynecastle complete with new main stand (Image: SNS)

But Budge and Co found a way. At a time when Scottish football is supposed to be in a spiral of despair, she’s built something special and kept those fans where they want to be.

Hearts haven’t always done things right. Vladimir Romanov. The proposed merger (takeover) of Hibs in 1990 are two prime examples.

But this is a club with many fine traditions. The manner in which it honours the servicemen who played for Hearts and gave their lives in the Great War is special. Their commitment to charity - their shirts bear the Save The Children name instead of taking the cash from a commercial enterprise.

One of the first things Budge did when she came to power was get rid of the name Wonga - a payday loan firm - from the jerseys because it was an association that she didn’t think was fitting of a club like Hearts.

The new stand packed with fans (Image: SNS group)

There’s a transparency about how they communicate with their fans that puts others to shame, even when it means taking a kicking as Hearts have done in the past couple of weeks.

But they got there in the end.

They worked their builders’ backsides off to get ready for that match on Sunday and for that they deserved backslapping. Not backstabbing.

 

 

 

The stuff a certain Mr Mackay Should have been saying, especially after the king v Ann comparison

 

At least somebody has something positive to say.

 

Ofc, we still need a good transfer window and to improve our form at home, we all know that.

 

 

[4marsbars]

1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said:

Did it cause you any problems playing at Murrayfield or indeed the other 7000 fans that came to the game ?

As I've said to you before away and **** off with your hidden we digs you pass at Hearts when you post on here .

 

 

Completely disagree. Opposing fans, such as I've seen the Light, are welcome here. 

 

[i8hibsh]

But but we roab cherities likesy ken.

[Nookie Bear]

14 minutes ago, 4marsbars said:

 

Completely disagree. Opposing fans, such as I've seen the Light, are welcome here. 

 

 

I dunno. Even hibs? Celtic? Rangers?

 

I don't come on here for balanced views, i want maroon-tinted views - otherwise i would go to Pie & Bovril and pretend to like Partick, Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

 

[luckydug]

1 hour ago, Escobar PHM said:

Ahhhhh that old chestnut again. Anyone who raises legitimate concerns is a traitor masquerading as a Hearts fan

 

Tell you what. There is a lot of snide bullying going on this board and its bringing it down to a gutter level some days. One particular poster is being shockingly bullied on a daily basis. I assume he isn't reporting it because its really low what some people are doing to this guy.

 

Accusing someone of not being a Hearts fan on here ought to be against the rules. Its a form of abuse.

 

If you think someone is 'masquerading and being a traitor, have the baws to name them and report them to the mod team. Otherwise live and let live huh ?

What term would you use to describe

"Hearts fans" who think we should have been awarded a 3-0 defeat for trying to get a game on. All the time the SPFL were being kept informed of the situation but that wasn't good enough for some.

Any bullying is coming from the pant wetters , they never stop whinging about anything and everything and then complain when pulled up for it.

[Escobar PHM]

15 minutes ago, luckydug said:

What term would you use to describe

"Hearts fans" who think we should have been awarded a 3-0 defeat for trying to get a game on. All the time the SPFL were being kept informed of the situation but that wasn't good enough for some.

Any bullying is coming from the pant wetters , they never stop whinging about anything and everything and then complain when pulled up for it.

If you cant handle a range of opinions from 6000 active members ranging from the ludicrous to the inspirationally brilliant without shouting people down and calling them names and making accusations about their loyalties and generally taking the forum and yourself far too seriously then you ought to consider if this is a good media for you. (I don't mean you specifically I mean individuals in general)

 

Your wetting your pants about pant wetters now, you should hear yourself mate. Chill the feck oot.

[busby1985]

Fantastic and finally someone has pointed out the change in the winds towards us. Pre Cathro/Levein, Cathro turned down Rangers remember, Budge and Hearts were the yard stick. We were rightly lauded for the open dialogue we kept with our fans on every aspect of our business. Something that is now used as ammunition to beat us. Budge and he club could’ve simply said “the stands delayed” and gave no further explanation. Budge chose to be open and honest even tho she knew it would undoubtably be used to ridicule us. The Cathro reaction from the media showed you exactly how bitter and jealous many had become about all things Hearts. Since then the media have found every person under the sun willing to kick us and gave them prime time space. Add to the mix that Levein is now in charge and we have venomous atmosphere spouted at us at every opportunity. The Thistle scenario pre Cathro/Levein wouldn’t have been spun in such a negative manner. There is no getting away from the fact that we have made some real errors over the last 8 months on and off the park but that shouldn’t over shadow the monumental achievement that is the new stand, highlighted even more so when you read the non sense Speirs was writing about our home in the pieman days. This week we have opened a new stand and posted a £2.5 million profit. In the past month on the park, although results have been poor, we have handed out debuts to 5?? Academy graduates. Show me a positive headline around any of those? Our new stand was over shadowed by thistles complaint. The profit posted was questioned because of the anonymous donation. The young boys ignored cause we haven’t been playing well. 

 

I hate when people cast up admin as some sort of excuse for us dropping points in the league. This article is the only acceptable use of the admin chat IMO. The steps we’ve taken off the field since Budge came in are remarkable. Admin can’t be an excuse for poor on field performances tho, both don’t go hand in hand. 

[Hearts_fan]

When Sky and BT roll-up for their live TV games, viewers are going to get a marvellous impression of Scottish football stadia and infrastructure. Live games are after all, the face of Scottish football.

 

Footage of the Foundation Plaza and the so-called 70s office block will undoubtedly boost the reputation of the whole industry by some degree or other. It will add an element of prestige. 

[kila]

11 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said:

When Sky and BT roll-up for their live TV games, viewers are going to get a marvellous impression of Scottish football stadia and infrastructure. Live games are after all, the face of Scottish football.

 

Footage of the Foundation Plaza and the so-called 70s office block will undoubtedly boost the reputation of the whole industry by some degree or other. It will add an element of prestige. 

 

I wasn't fussed about the Partick highlights other than seeing Isma's goal again and of course, seeing how the new stand looks from the TV gantry

 

3 weeks on Sunday to the televised Celtic game

[Hearts_fan]

1 minute ago, kila said:

 

I wasn't fussed about the Partick highlights other than seeing Isma's goal again and of course, seeing how the new stand looks from the TV gantry

 

3 weeks on Sunday to the televised Celtic game

 

I was exactly the same! 

[3fingersreid]

1 hour ago, 4marsbars said:

 

Completely disagree. Opposing fans, such as I've seen the Light, are welcome here. 

 

You like his posts ,fair enough , me I don't like his little digs at Hearts .

if he was hibs,celtic or rangers,would you be so lenient?

[Bazzas right boot]

1 hour ago, 4marsbars said:

 

Completely disagree. Opposing fans, such as I've seen the Light, are welcome here. 

 

 

He is.

 

Although it is a bit strange he's on so much!

 

[Bazzas right boot]

Just now, 3fingersreid said:

You like his posts ,fair enough , me I don't like his little digs at Hearts .

if he was hibs,celtic or rangers,would you be so lenient?

He has less digs than allot on here at Hearts.

 

 

[Beast Boy]

1 hour ago, Escobar PHM said:

Banned poster ? You mean me ? Ive never been banned from here. Ive been a member on here under various guises, on and off over the years. Ive never been banned and never had more than one profile at once. Ive left voluntarily at times and absented myself voluntarily for periods. Ive never been a member of another Hearts forum. I'm not on any Hearts fans facebook pages.

 

Don't pick the wrong guy to bully mate and don't repeat abusive allegations about me unless you've got 100% concrete proof.

 

Stop bullying me...

[3fingersreid]

3 minutes ago, BigDave'sHeed said:

He has less digs than allot on here at Hearts.

 

 

That's true ,but, when it's Hearts fans criticising Hearts I can accept it as they're doing it through hurt or frustration, when it's an opposition fan that is a different thing altogether.

[Bazzas right boot]

5 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said:

That's true ,but, when it's Hearts fans criticising Hearts I can accept it as they're doing it through hurt or frustration, when it's an opposition fan that is a different thing altogether.

 

A bit banter is ok, istl tends to keep it light, he also takes it well, although I wouldn't be pissing About on a sheep forum.

[i8hibsh]

1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

I dunno. Even hibs? Celtic? Rangers?

 

I don't come on here for balanced views, i want maroon-tinted views - otherwise i would go to Pie & Bovril and pretend to like Partick, Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

 

 

 

Hibs fans are very welcome clearly as this place is full of them.

[EIEIO]

1 minute ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Hibs fans are very welcome clearly as this place is full of them.

Top post.

[RS86]

Nice piece. Genuinely gobsmacked that was from the DR tbh

[luckydug]

1 hour ago, Escobar PHM said:

If you cant handle a range of opinions from 6000 active members ranging from the ludicrous to the inspirationally brilliant without shouting people down and calling them names and making accusations about their loyalties and generally taking the forum and yourself far too seriously then you ought to consider if this is a good media for you. (I don't mean you specifically I mean individuals in general)

 

Your wetting your pants about pant wetters now, you should hear yourself mate. Chill the feck oot.

At this period of time when the team is struggling and the club does not have the money to be hiring and firing managers willy nilly. It is not unreasonable to expect Hearts men to get behind the team and club and form some kind of siege mentality.  Instead we have got to a stage on the main fans forum where sometimes it is difficult to tell the Hearts fans from the Hibs infiltrators.

I suppose you will want me banned for suggesting there are infiltrators.

I actually don't mind fans of other teams posting on here as long as they are open about their loyalties. 

 

[sadj]

31 minutes ago, RS86 said:

Nice piece. Genuinely gobsmacked that was from the DR tbh

Didnt realise it was the DR... im in shock. Iv only seen that and David Tanners tweet that have spoken out against the ludicrous attitude towards Hearts the last week or so. Thats the only article iv seen thats had that level of sense applied to it. 

[Walter Kidd]

Good article.

[colinmaroon]

5 hours ago, Thomaso said:

 

"I detect a change in attitude towards Hearts in recent times and maybe it's because Craig Levein isn't the most popular man in the game"

 

 

Shockaroonie!!!

 

Unlike you to pick on our manager!

[colinmaroon]

3 hours ago, Escobar PHM said:

If you cant handle a range of opinions from 6000 active members ranging from the ludicrous to the inspirationally brilliant without shouting people down and calling them names and making accusations about their loyalties and generally taking the forum and yourself far too seriously then you ought to consider if this is a good media for you. (I don't mean you specifically I mean individuals in general)

 

Your wetting your pants about pant wetters now, you should hear yourself mate. Chill the feck oot.

 

 

It's funny how the things you say can turn back on yourself!

 

Pointing a finger?  Remember, there are three pointing straight back!

[Bull's-eye]

6 minutes ago, colinmaroon said:

 

 

Shockaroonie!!!

 

Unlike you to pick on our manager!

It's ok though. It's nothing personal.

Thomaso doesn't agree with personal digs.

 

In fact he takes any abuse of Hearts personally himself

[soonbe110]

6 hours ago, Thomaso said:

 

"I detect a change in attitude towards Hearts in recent times and maybe it's because Craig Levein isn't the most popular man in the game"

That makes him  similar to Mourinho and Wenger. A lot in the game down south dont like either of them. Is it a problem? Wouldn’t have thought so. 

[Son Of Anarchy]

Same posters, same .... every thread. Laughable. 

 

As for that article? Shocked n stunned its from the DR and was given the go ahead. Congratulations are in order for once before the usual crap resurfaces. 

 

PS, I'm going to stop now in case I'm bullied

[Beast Boy]

55 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

That makes him  similar to Mourinho and Wenger. A lot in the game down south dont like either of them. Is it a problem? Wouldn’t have thought so. 

 

Exactly. I’d be more concerned about having a manager who was too thick to realise that the Scottish media and the infestation of OF ***** throughout the governance of the game are no friends of ours. The fact Craig annoys arseholes like them is one of his most admirable qualities.

[Don Dan]

Excellent article. 

I honestly don't believe some of the comments and posts on here are by genuine fans. If they are genuine fans they need to take a long hard look at themselves and decide if Hearts is the team for you. 

[Bazzas right boot]

If the msn don't like cl that's a good thing.

 

They like folk like Rogers, Lennon, mcoist, Boyd, walker, Nicholas, probably amongst others.

 

 

[Kiwidoug]

8 hours ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

 

No, it didn't cause any problems.

It was a unique game, I would have far preferred playing at Tynecastle as a better view, but enjoyed (as a one off) the opportunity to watch from a unique perspective of playing a football game at Murrayfield.

 

Incidentally, no hidden wee digs at Hearts, I made clear I applauded this redevelopment and accepted building projects invariably run over.

My only point was that the SPFL would not have allowed this late a decision to impact one of the gruesome twosome.

Please go away.9

[All Out Attack]

6 hours ago, Hearts_fan said:

When Sky and BT roll-up for their live TV games, viewers are going to get a marvellous impression of Scottish football stadia and infrastructure. Live games are after all, the face of Scottish football.

 

Footage of the Foundation Plaza and the so-called 70s office block will undoubtedly boost the reputation of the whole industry by some degree or other. It will add an element of prestige. 

Completely agree, however it creates a negative impression if we have this shiny new stand and there are huge gaps with no one sitting in it. 

 

It looks like some of the corporate areas which haven't been sold and I honestly think the club should be doing more to shift tickets there. 

 

We might be stuck with the current football side which is really not helping, but I think more aggressive discounting or give away to schools is required. Any filled seat is better than an empty one. 

[Hearts_fan]

3 minutes ago, All Out Attack said:

Completely agree, however it creates a negative impression if we have this shiny new stand and there are huge gaps with no one sitting in it. 

 

It looks like some of the corporate areas which haven't been sold and I honestly think the club should be doing more to shift tickets there. 

 

We might be stuck with the current football side which is really not helping, but I think more aggressive discounting or give away to schools is required. Any filled seat is better than an empty one. 

 

I think the Club will be giving a lot of attention to filling the stadium.

[Bridge of Djoum]

Incredible.

 

The same 4-5 posters banging on about Levein are the same bangers who complain about ''bullying'' when pulled up for it.

The JKB Brain Trust is in full swing this season.

[Coburg Hearts]

8 hours ago, luckydug said:

At this period of time when the team is struggling and the club does not have the money to be hiring and firing managers willy nilly. It is not unreasonable to expect Hearts men to get behind the team and club and form some kind of siege mentality.  Instead we have got to a stage on the main fans forum where sometimes it is difficult to tell the Hearts fans from the Hibs infiltrators.

I suppose you will want me banned for suggesting there are infiltrators.

I actually don't mind fans of other teams posting on here as long as they are open about their loyalties. 

 

Stop being a big bully 

[sadj]

3 hours ago, All Out Attack said:

Completely agree, however it creates a negative impression if we have this shiny new stand and there are huge gaps with no one sitting in it. 

 

It looks like some of the corporate areas which haven't been sold and I honestly think the club should be doing more to shift tickets there. 

 

We might be stuck with the current football side which is really not helping, but I think more aggressive discounting or give away to schools is required. Any filled seat is better than an empty one. 

 

Have I missed something? I assumed the corporate facilities aren’t available yet as they would relate to the suites that aren’t yet finished. Though I suppose the seating areas could be used meantime for Schools , local teams etc and try to bring in more younger fans. 

[Sir Vladimir of Romanov]

Another thread being ruined by this 'so called / alleged hearts fan' nonsense. Give it a rest ffs. Sometimes people feel the need to ask questions. It does not mean they are any less of a hearts fan than the rest of us. 

 

Absolutely chronic chat. 

[Cory McNamara]

14 hours ago, Marooned Abroad said:

David McCarthy

Hearts haven’t always done things right. Vladimir Romanov. The proposed merger (takeover) of Hibs in 1990 are two prime examples.

 

 

This is a crime to put these things like that.

[CBjambo]

23 hours ago, allystrachan said:

Well said! 

Yup seconded!

 

Partick Thistle should be embarrassed by their actions - playing to a sycophantic media at a time when they should have been supportive.

 

Game was never ‘off’ as AB has said categorically it was the frenzy around the main stand that caused the positive and negative headlines - worst of all from the DR?!?!

 

Glad they saw fit to rectify their stance with such a positive piece!