Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 reports of a van ramming into dozens of people in the Ramblas area http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40965581 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Really busy street. Was jam packed when I was last there. Looks really bad... Hopefully the death count is low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Police calling it terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Two people have reported to have been killed and dozens hurt after a van in Barcelona ploughed into pedestrians and two men entered a restaurant with guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Police saying it's a terrorist attack and that there are reports that two men have entered a restaurant (presumably in the Las Ramblas area) Reports that 2 people have been killed. Having been in this street, I know it can get extremely busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Really busy street. Was jam packed when I was last there. Looks really bad... Hopefully the death count is low The saddest thing about these terror attacks is that's the natural reaction we often have when we hear of one. Not having a go at you because I tend to react that way myself but whether 10, 100 or 1000 people die its just as tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Europe is still at war with Islamic fundamentalism. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 According to Spanish TV, the man in the restaurant is armed with an "arma larga", i.e., a rifle or shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Took about 7 minutes for the usual cretins like Hopkins and co to take to twitter. Pathetic *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Seen a clip on Twitter...scummy ******* videoing folk lying all over pavement rather than help.....sure couple days it be forgot about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I know it's a cliche, but It's scary to think I was in that exact spot in Barcelona only last month with the wife and kids. Don't think anywhere in Europe is safe at the moment but Barcelona felt a bit more 'relaxed' and 'safer' than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Confirmed terrorist incident, fatalities.... At least 2 possibly more. Was there 3 years ago in las ramblas.... Extremely busy area, for tourism.. So many targets for them to kill folk..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Took about 7 minutes for the usual cretins like Hopkins and co to take to twitter. Pathetic *****. If people stopped doing this shit then the dregs like her would have nothing to go on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I know it's a cliche, but It's scary to think I was in that exact spot in Barcelona only last month with the wife and kids. Don't think anywhere in Europe is safe at the moment but Barcelona felt a bit more 'relaxed' and 'safer' than most. Yes, Barcelona a gives over that relaxed atmosphere.... It joins the list of targets over the last decade or so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Took about 7 minutes for the usual cretins like Hopkins and co to take to twitter. Pathetic *****. I find the fact Islamic fundamentalists are driving vechlies in to innocent civilians, blowing up concerts full of kids, shooting people in cities, stabbing people to death etc, far more pathetic and worthy of comment. But hey, that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Local radio saying 13 dead now apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I find the fact Islamic fundamentalists are driving vechlies in to innocent civilians, blowing up concerts full of kids, shooting people in cities, stabbing people to death etc, far more pathetic and worthy of comment. But hey, that's just me. Imagine seeing of a terrorist attack (as it's being allegedly treated) and then your first reaction is to criticise people who call it out. But muh mean tweets an comments an aw eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Imagine seeing of a terrorist attack (as it's being allegedly treated) and then your first reaction is to criticise people who call it out. But muh mean tweets an comments an aw eh? It really is incredible. Strange stuff mate. Social media right now will be full of SJW's trying to show everyone just how nice a person they are. Cringey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Local radio saying 13 dead now apparently. Awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunblestjambo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Was there a couple of weeks ago with the family. Grim grim stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Very hard to defend against hired vehicles being driven down public streets and into pedestrians. Pedestrian areas need to be properly bollarded off (as they have been in major cities in the UK after the Westminster and Borough Market attacks). Edinburgh's High Street has new anti-terror bollards on it now. There's still only so much infrastructure that can be put in place to keep people safe without turning cities into fortresses. Cowardly scum who did this deserve everything coming to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 One confirmed death according to RTVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Becoming more and more worried that something like this could occur in Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 13 may be incorrect according to latest. Maybe much lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Very hard to defend against hired vehicles being driven down public streets and into pedestrians. Pedestrian areas need to be properly bollarded off (as they have been in major cities in the UK after the Westminster and Borough Market attacks). Edinburgh's High Street has new anti-terror bollards on it now. There's still only so much infrastructure that can be put in place to keep people safe without turning cities into fortresses. Cowardly scum who did this deserve everything coming to them. On a side-note is it true that the new Main Stand will have similar kinds of bollards or barriers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Problem with bollards and barriers is that the attackers will just pick another street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Took about 7 minutes for the usual cretins like Hopkins and co to take to twitter. Pathetic *****. I know. They are far worse than the people doing the actual killings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Becoming more and more worried that something like this could occur in Edinburgh. Its more a matter of when and not if sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Its more a matter of when and not if sadly Actually I think Edinburgh is somewhat safe in the sense that terrorists would rather attempt an attack in England for maximum effect, an attack on Scotland wouldn't have the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Absolute b@stards that do this kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Actually I think Edinburgh is somewhat safe in the sense that terrorists would rather attempt an attack in England for maximum effect, an attack on Scotland wouldn't have the same effect. Edinburgh would be a massive target, especially during the festival. Im not sure these terrorists are fussed about where they do it anymore. AL Qaeda were but ISIS nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Took about 7 minutes for the usual cretins like Hopkins and co to take to twitter. Pathetic *****. Yeah morons opinions are worse than terror attacks. Plum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Actually I think Edinburgh is somewhat safe in the sense that terrorists would rather attempt an attack in England for maximum effect, an attack on Scotland wouldn't have the same effect. It would right now, the centre of town is absolutely Hoatchin' of tourists. Extremely surprised it hasn't been targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Actually I think Edinburgh is somewhat safe in the sense that terrorists would rather attempt an attack in England for maximum effect, an attack on Scotland wouldn't have the same effect. They already have (Glasgow Airport). There have also been attacks in Belgium, the Netherlands and Denmark. The area of Belgium is about equal to the area of Highland Region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan socrates Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Actually I think Edinburgh is somewhat safe in the sense that terrorists would rather attempt an attack in England for maximum effect, an attack on Scotland wouldn't have the same effect. A world heritage site that also houses a premier league team with close military ties? Rip those poor *******s that have demised, another city, another vigil, another monument lit up, no change Someone is not doing their job and we would be foolish to think the scenes in the usa cannot happen here We all hope not im sure, but im not confident about todays society, 'lest we forget' means ****all to people these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 They're certainly looking for perps. Lots of armed police moving around tactically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 They already have (Glasgow Airport). There have also been attacks in Belgium, the Netherlands and Denmark. The area of Belgium is about equal to the area of Highland Region. Missed the Glasgow attack by a few hours. Was standing, with the kids in buggies, at the same spot the car went into the building. Watched the news coming in sitting in my hotel in Paris. Kids were too young to understand, obviously, but I was in a bit of a state. Sheer luck....and that seems to be it these days with this style of attack. Impossible to stop really. Terrible and horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I find the fact Islamic fundamentalists are driving vechlies in to innocent civilians, blowing up concerts full of kids, shooting people in cities, stabbing people to death etc, far more pathetic and worthy of comment. But hey, that's just me. You are of course correct. That Hopkins bursd is a cretin, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 13 may be incorrect according to latest. Maybe much lower. I ******* hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvoys Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 If anyone wants to have an insight to the bigger picture in all this, Douglas Murray's 'The Strange Death of Europe' reads like a classic of our times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Van runs down shit load of folk one or the most beautiful cities in Europe if not the world and people want to see them moan about Katie ****ing who? reality check needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Report. Suspect arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Driss Oukabir is the arrested person. North African. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Took about 7 minutes for the usual cretins like Hopkins and co to take to twitter. Pathetic *****. Don't worry. The usual cretins like Owen Jones will be on tweeting about what a great night they are having anyway shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Don't worry. The usual cretins like Owen Jones will be on tweeting about what a great night they are having anyway shortly. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I know it's a cliche, but It's scary to think I was in that exact spot in Barcelona only last month with the wife and kids. Don't think anywhere in Europe is safe at the moment but Barcelona felt a bit more 'relaxed' and 'safer' than most. Can relate to this, as I was in Venice at the end of June, a week or so before I went out, I learnt that the Italian Police had broke up an ISIS cell in May, who where planning an attack in Venice. Barcelona did feel safe, however later at night at the Magic Fountain Show, it was absolutly packed, and I did think if someone had a backpack, utter carnage could ensue, as I didn't see any obvious security. But as you say, where is safe anymore, it could be here or there or over there tomorrow, won't stop me from travelling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Who? O W E N J O N E S is the person I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 They're certainly looking for perps. Lots of armed police moving around tactically. Understandable.. There have been secondary incidents, armed perpetrators then reverting to shooting in the past.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvoys Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Driss Oukabir is the arrested person. North African. Meanwhile NGOs continue to provide a taxi service over to Spain for overwhelmingly eco migrants. Lampadusa mayor told a story of how one of them is actually lending boats directly to the traffickers to avoid the of shore sea rescue hassle. From a sociological level it's an absolutely incredible and unprecedented phenomenon - the now instinctive suicidal tendencies of the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Eco migrants somehow responsible now. And around and around we go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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