Rudy T Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 That's Gary Monk gone now. Feel for their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I don't think Leeds have done anything ridiculous but offer the guy a deal. Quite the opposite this time, except Monk clearly has better options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 I don't think Leeds have done anything ridiculous but offer the guy a deal. Quite the opposite this time, except Monk clearly has better options Not sure it matters that's another manager away. How many is that in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 We look at this kind of thing a bit old fashioned now. Managers are much more dispensable than they used to be. There's pretty much no data to support the stability argument. In fact, I've seen it suggested that based on statistical evidence, if a manager isn't cutting it after a crazy tiny number of games (like 15 or something) a club is as well cutting their losses and getting rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 A club these days should be structured so that the manager/first team coach has an input into the youth system but not the ability to restructure it all. The youth structure should be seen more long term and not subject to yearly changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Probably got offered hee haw funds and expected to compete with the big boys coming down. They overachieved this season but blew it last several games. Probably the hardest/most competitive league in the world. Will be on his way to palace/hull/Sunderland or the likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Not sure it matters that's another manager away. How many is that in the last 10 years.Because he walked out? Reverse. Leeds have had a very solid stable year and have successfully transitioned into new ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Because he walked out? Reverse. Leeds have had a very solid stable year and have successfully transitioned into new ownership Yeah People are out of touch. Cellino actually has been good for the club albeit some bad moves too. Bear in mind the awful position the club was in as long as 15 years ago. It is taking a long time to come through everything. Elland Road not owned by club for example. It was a disappointment end season slump. But actually led directly to this takeover. Cellino committed to sell if missed play offs. Lets see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I think Leeds is the 3rd biggest city in England, a one club city, it should be huge, just shows how bad things can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Yeah People are out of touch. Cellino actually has been good for the club albeit some bad moves too. Bear in mind the awful position the club was in as long as 15 years ago. It is taking a long time to come through everything. Elland Road not owned by club for example. It was a disappointment end season slump. But actually led directly to this takeover. Cellino committed to sell if missed play offs. Lets see. Since Ridsdale it has been a very hard road. The club actually has been quite stable in results for years. Albeit not what the size of club outside looking in should achieve but realistically up until now they have been up against it.A huge disappointment for them to lose Monk. It was always on the cards but he leaves some sort of platform for the next man in. In short the job is now one that people would covet rather than someone who needs a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Because he walked out? Reverse. Leeds have had a very solid stable year and have successfully transitioned into new ownership A stable year isn't monk their 3rd manager to leave in the space of time and they're still in the championship. Doesn't sound that stable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 A stable year isn't monk their 3rd manager to leave in the space of time and they're still in the championship. Doesn't sound that stable?2 since October 2015. Evans then Monk. Very much an improving situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 2 since October 2015. Evans then Monk. Very much an improving situation Improving perhaps but who is next? Will they last long? As someone else pointed out Leeds should be one of the biggest teams in England. It may be improving but it's nowhere near good enough for that club. Their fans have been dicked around for years. I have no beef with them I do genuinely feel sorry for the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midloth_Iain Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I think Leeds is the 3rd biggest city in England, a one club city, it should be huge, just shows how bad things can get. Its in the top 10 of largest cities but not top 3. They do have a huge (lapsed) fan base, like most big clubs. If they got back to the Premiership, they would easily have 35 - 45k fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Improving perhaps but who is next? Will they last long? As someone else pointed out Leeds should be one of the biggest teams in England. It may be improving but it's nowhere near good enough for that club. Their fans have been dicked around for years. I have no beef with them I do genuinely feel sorry for the fans.They can't compete with Bournemouth financially, only in tradition. Reality Leeds have achieved pretty much on par with what they can afford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Its in the top 10 of largest cities but not top 3. They do have a huge (lapsed) fan base, like most big clubs. If they got back to the Premiership, they would easily have 35 - 45k fans It is 3rd behind London and Birmingham. 4th if you count greater Manchester as Manchester which is technically not right as the city is Manchester and doesn't encompass the greater Manchester areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 They can't compete with Bournemouth financially, only in tradition. Reality Leeds have achieved pretty much on par with what they can afford And that's ok for Leeds Utd one of the most famous clubs in England? Are you related to the owners?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 And that's ok for Leeds Utd one of the most famous clubs in England? Are you related to the owners??You need to know a lot more about the very complicated existence of Leeds United over 20 years. It's not as simple as that. The new owners are on their 4th day Again that doesn't tell the whole story, it's a positive transition for Leeds. The curve does appear to be heading up rather than basket case down. Karanka the red hot favourite and they have recruited from West Ham in the back office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 They have never recovered from the big spending days of David O'Leary being the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 They have never recovered from the big spending days of David O'Leary being the manager. Kewell and Fowler and a few others made their fortunes from Leeds. Overspending by the club chairman Ridsdale nearly destroyed the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Who actually is this new owner? Judging by his name he's another Italian? Doubt he's much better than Cellino. Monk done a great job and was unlucky not to get them in the play off spots. He's been heavily linked with Palace but dunno if it'll go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Who actually is this new owner? Judging by his name he's another Italian? Doubt he's much better than Cellino. Monk done a great job and was unlucky not to get them in the play off spots. He's been heavily linked with Palace but dunno if it'll go through. Bought 50% last year He's been involved for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Kewell and Fowler and a few others made their fortunes from Leeds. Overspending by the club chairman Ridsdale nearly destroyed the club.Kewell was great for Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 You need to know a lot more about the very complicated existence of Leeds United over 20 years. It's not as simple as that. The new owners are on their 4th day Again that doesn't tell the whole story, it's a positive transition for Leeds. The curve does appear to be heading up rather than basket case down. Karanka the red hot favourite and they have recruited from West Ham in the back office 1 man's complicated existence is a another man's basket case :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Kewell was great for Leeds. Correct. Fowler you can see the point but Harry Kewell was amazing! So was Viduka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Who actually is this new owner? Judging by his name he's another Italian? Doubt he's much better than Cellino. Monk done a great job and was unlucky not to get them in the play off spots. He's been heavily linked with Palace but dunno if it'll go through. Monk may well be Middlesbrough bound. The new owner seems much more reputable than Cellino. Cellino wasn't so bad but had zero patience. He didn't have the wherewithal to make a difference really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Kewell was great for Leeds. Left Leeds in a fire sale to Liverpool for 6 or 7 million and he split the money with his agent. The club got nothing. Don't think he's all that welcome at Elland Rd these days. Did nothing for Liverpool. Was substituted in the European Cup final at 3-0 down and they went onto win without him. He was great as a young player though. New boss at Crawley apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I think Leeds is the 3rd biggest city in England, a one club city, it should be huge, just shows how bad things can get. Leeds were massive, a long times ago, when the size of your crowd defined the amount you had to offer players wages........now its TV...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Harry Kewell is an absolute wank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Basket case... does the OP actually know anything about Leeds or just having a slaver ? Ridsdale sanctioned the ridiculous contracts and transfer fees, then when the brown stuff hit the spinny metal thing.. he bolted.. ! Cellino was a diet romanov, the new owner at least has a game plan, has appointed well at director level and word is ranieri is inbound. This coming season could be/has to be.. the one.. they get back up. Financially worse off than sh#te like Bournemouth and Middlesbrough..true.. but if they get back into the EPL and are run properly then no reason they shouldn't be top 10 at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Eh? OP this is a lazy & under researched post. You'll find most Leeds United fans are very much in celebratory mode right now given Cellino has been bought out by a reputable new owner. Leeds are my outside bet for promotion next season-they're a huge club and in no way a basket case should they climb back up to the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stew mc Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Eh? OP this is a lazy & under researched post. You'll find most Leeds United fans are very much in celebratory mode right now given Cellino has been bought out by a reputable new owner. Leeds are my outside bet for promotion next season-they're a huge club and in no way a basket case should they climb back up to the premier league. ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 Basket case... does the OP actually know anything about Leeds or just having a slaver ? Ridsdale sanctioned the ridiculous contracts and transfer fees, then when the brown stuff hit the spinny metal thing.. he bolted.. ! Cellino was a diet romanov, the new owner at least has a game plan, has appointed well at director level and word is ranieri is inbound. This coming season could be/has to be.. the one.. they get back up. Financially worse off than sh#te like Bournemouth and Middlesbrough..true.. but if they get back into the EPL and are run properly then no reason they shouldn't be top 10 at least I think what you've just set out perfectly describes a basket case of a club. What do you actually know about this new owner? Another Italian surely that rings some alarm bells, wtf does he know about Leeds or care about them to buy them? The manager has just walked out after his first meeting.. not sounding like a great start to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfield Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Harry Kewell is an absolute wank As an Aussie or always been on the fence with Kewell. He was in world-class form for a few years with Leeds and won them many games with many x-factor moments. He turned into a tosser though as the years went on - after leaving Liverpool he was at galatasaray where they idolised him. Had a great goals ratio there and seemed to be loving his football. However that ended and he went around the Middle East backwaters for the sake of money and then ended up on the a-league and did Sweet **** all. Should've stayed in turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I think what you've just set out perfectly describes a basket case of a club. What do you actually know about this new owner? Another Italian surely that rings some alarm bells, wtf does he know about Leeds or care about them to buy them? The manager has just walked out after his first meeting.. not sounding like a great start to me. "another italian....alarm bells" What a complete and utter ignorant bell you are sir...so he's italian so must be corrupt then? Explain yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterintheRain Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I think Leeds is the 3rd biggest city in England, a one club city, it should be huge, just shows how bad things can get. But it's not a one sport city. And a large proportion of the population would never support LU with their unpleasant history. They're pretty much fukced without one of those Billionaire owners saving them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Massive club who I like an awful lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Left Leeds in a fire sale to Liverpool for 6 or 7 million and he split the money with his agent. The club got nothing. Don't think he's all that welcome at Elland Rd these days. Did nothing for Liverpool. Was substituted in the European Cup final at 3-0 down and they went onto win without him. He was great as a young player though. New boss at Crawley apparently. He came through the ranks and gave great service to Leeds until they went tits up. To blame him in any way is mental. Oh and he went off at 1-0. Shows how much you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 But it's not a one sport city. And a large proportion of the population would never support LU with their unpleasant history. They're pretty much fukced without one of those Billionaire owners saving them. No not quite But leaving aside the lack of knowledge it is true rugby league was Number 1 until Don Revie created a great team who had a golden 8/9 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 No not quite But leaving aside the lack of knowledge it is true rugby league was Number 1 until Don Revie created a great team who had a golden 8/9 years. That Leeds team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Leeds United now own Elland Road again One of the victims of the fire sale 13/14 years ago Basic thing owning your own stadium but another positive step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Step in the right direction... Leeds are my English team so hoping this is the start of major improvements in the way the club is run ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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