jbee647 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just seen John Rankin at the Oriam in full Hearts training gear Anyone know if he's involved in our coaching department now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Might have been don Cowie?think they look similar, were you close enough to get a good look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Might have been don Cowie?think they look similar, were you close enough to get a good look? Yep definitely him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Coaching 15z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Coaching 15z Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I knew he was a Jambo, just knew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Yep definitely himFirst I'd heard he was part of the coaching staff,plenty experience to pass onto the young lads [emoji106] Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehibsareintheirbeds Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Seems to be captain at Queen of the south just now, left falkirk in january- been playing regularly too. Interesting move for him, another Dundee United connection I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Maybe doing his badges and not actually on the coaching staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 First I'd heard he was part of the coaching staff,plenty experience to pass onto the young lads [emoji106] Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk I remember hearing before that we want each youth age group to have two coaches, one who is an ex pro to provide that experience to the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On academy coaches, I see Dale Carrick is a coach of the U14s. http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2017/03/28/former-hearts-striker-dale-carrick-enjoying-helping-old-club-learning-ropes-youth-coach/?platform=hootsuite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I remember hearing before that we want each youth age group to have two coaches, one who is an ex pro to provide that experience to the players. Do you mean ex-pro or ex-Dundee United player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Do you mean ex-pro or ex-Dundee United player? Ha good point!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 He's been coaching for a good few months, I pointed towards it on the Dillon thread when someone mentioned him coming in to coach the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Wondering when we will sign Stephen Thompson, he's about the only one left we've not brought in with a Dundee United connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 On academy coaches, I see Dale Carrick is a coach of the U14s. http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2017/03/28/former-hearts-striker-dale-carrick-enjoying-helping-old-club-learning-ropes-youth-coach/?platform=hootsuite JKB got the exclusive first on John Rankin Also in EEN today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 He will be able to pass on his diving technique which successfully won hibs a penalty at Easter road against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 On academy coaches, I see Dale Carrick is a coach of the U14s. http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2017/03/28/former-hearts-striker-dale-carrick-enjoying-helping-old-club-learning-ropes-youth-coach/?platform=hootsuite Hasn't realised he'd ended up Cowdenbeath, thought he had the ability to play at a lot higher a level than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Jobs for the boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 He will be able to pass on his diving technique which successfully won hibs a penalty at Easter road against us.To be fair, he got up and can be clearly seen telling Dougie McCheatinghibsfecker that it wasn't a penalty. Justice prevailed in the end with Suso and Big Davie O. Anyway, I like Rankin from what I've seen/heard plus his squiggler won me money when I bet Hibs to beat Celtic! Welcome aboard, John...and welcome back, Dale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Debut 4 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Expect a few top corner squigglers in a few years once the youths step up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Jobs for the boys. Get a grip man eh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_jailer Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Get a grip man eh.... He's bang on tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Another of Levein's DU pals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-coaching-roles-for-john-rankin-and-dale-carrick-1-4405506 He is an article actually explaining how Rankin came to Hearts. Gary Kirk recommended him to Roger Arnott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Todays random trivia:Did you know John Rankin was once on the books of Corinthians in Brazil!!blew my mind that fact when I first heard it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 https://twitter.com/jranks11/status/847025662347169792 Might be a good addition. Another CL follower but it might not all be bad under CL's umbrella. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Interesting comment I picked up on Facebook - "Levein has brought in Cathro, McPhee, Daly, and now Rankine - none of which have any experience whatsoever as a first team Coach or Manager. Levein 'the pupper master' reigns supreme" Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Interesting comment I picked up on Facebook - "Levein has brought in Cathro, McPhee, Daly, and now Rankine - none of which have any experience whatsoever as a first team Coach or Manager. Levein 'the pupper master' reigns supreme" Thoughts? McPhee had experience of being a first team coach before he joined us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcalford Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Interesting comment I picked up on Facebook - "Levein has brought in Cathro, McPhee, Daly, and now Rankine - none of which have any experience whatsoever as a first team Coach or Manager. Levein 'the pupper master' reigns supreme" Thoughts? Mcphee is an assistant manager and was doing that role at various teams before he came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Mcphee is an assistant manager and was doing that role at various teams before he came. Assistant coach - not THE first team Coach or Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 McPhee had experience of being a first team coach before he joined us. Sorry I must have missed that - what Club was he at when he was the First Team Coach (not Assistant)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairneyhill Jambo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Sorry I must have missed that - what Club was he at when he was the First Team Coach (not Assistant)? Cupar Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Interesting comment I picked up on Facebook - "Levein has brought in Cathro, McPhee, Daly, and now Rankine - none of which have any experience whatsoever as a first team Coach or Manager. Levein 'the pupper master' reigns supreme" Thoughts? None of them are women either. Levein the sexist reigns supreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Interesting comment I picked up on Facebook - "Levein has brought in Cathro, McPhee, Daly, and now Rankine - none of which have any experience whatsoever as a first team Coach or Manager. Levein 'the pupper master' reigns supreme" Thoughts? Cathro has experience as a first team coach! Just not any experience as head coach. MacPhee was assistant at St. Mirren when they won the league cup and beat Hearts (and Celtic in the semi), and he's with N.Ireland helping them bring success (at the Euros last year and their WC qualifying campaign). The Levein criticism is generally fair, (e.g. master of puppets) but some of the arguments are skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 The amount of inexperienced coaches getting work at Hearts is unreal. Should our expectations be limited to being happy in the top six, considering how new to coaching everyone is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Sorry I must have missed that - what Club was he at when he was the First Team Coach (not Assistant)?Oh come on! He was Danny Lennon's assistant at St Mirren when they won a cup and has been Michael O'Neil's assistant during a successful period for NI. An assistant manager is just as good if not better than a 'First Team Coach' - unless you are classing that in the same category as a Head Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Well his points on young players are a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Oh come on! He was Danny Lennon's assistant at St Mirren when they won a cup and has been Michael O'Neil's assistant during a successful period for NI. An assistant manager is just as good if not better than a 'First Team Coach' - unless you are classing that in the same category as a Head Coach Apologies - I meant Head Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Cathro has experience as a first team coach! Just not any experience as head coach. MacPhee was assistant at St. Mirren when they won the league cup and beat Hearts (and Celtic in the semi), and he's with N.Ireland helping them bring success (at the Euros last year and their WC qualifying campaign). The Levein criticism is generally fair, (e.g. master of puppets) but some of the arguments are skewed. This correct - this is the point I was trying to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Interesting comment I picked up on Facebook - "Levein has brought in Cathro, McPhee, Daly, and now Rankine - none of which have any experience whatsoever as a first team Coach or Manager. Levein 'the pupper master' reigns supreme" Thoughts? Very odd. Does that poster on facebook think we could get a former manager in as a U17 coach? Does he see not know that Cathro was an assistant and first team coach (jobs kind of melted together) in 3 different countries? That MacPhee has been a manager before? That most positions at clubs below the first team are taken by up and coming coaches? Someone is trying very hard to twist things towards their point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaro Gomis Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 This correct - this is the point I was trying to make It's a largely irrelevant point. Why should you need Head Coach experience to be an assistant, or U20 manager/coach? What self respecting, established, "Head Coach" is going to come in and coach the kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Very odd. Does that poster on facebook think we could get a former manager in as a U17 coach? Does he see not know that Cathro was an assistant and first team coach (jobs kind of melted together) in 3 different countries? That MacPhee has been a manager before? That most positions at clubs below the first team are taken by up and coming coaches? Someone is trying very hard to twist things towards their point of view. Do you think Hearts are a big enough Club to deserve a fully experienced Head Coach ....or is that my "sense of entitlement" kicking in again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 It's a largely irrelevant point. Why should you need Head Coach experience to be an assistant, or U20 manager/coach? What self respecting, established, "Head Coach" is going to come in and coach the kids? You miss the point then - out of ALL the appointments Levein has made, not one is an experienced Head Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Do you think Hearts are a big enough Club to deserve a fully experienced Head Coach ....or is that my "sense of entitlement" kicking in again? No, but I want the best person for a job. And sometimes that means taking a chance on a person who has no experience as head coach but has plenty of other experience in other roles where they are mentored and learning from an experienced coach, and has the right attributes to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaro Gomis Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You miss the point then - out of ALL the appointments Levein has made, not one is an experienced Head CoachCorrect. Which is exactly what was said would happen under this regime. I still fail to see the issue. I'd rather take a chance on Cathro, who I reckon will still come good (despite a truly awful start, I concede), than go down the old faces route that is currently deep routed within Scottish football. That may just be me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 No, but I want the best person for a job. And sometimes that means taking a chance on a person who has no experience as head coach but has plenty of other experience in other roles where they are mentored and learning from an experienced coach, and has the right attributes to do well. Indeed that is the huge debate by Hearts fans. Was Cathro "the best person for the job"? Should we accept Levein's philosophy of bringing in experienced Coaches with no Head Coach track record? Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Correct. Which is exactly what was said would happen under this regime. I still fail to see the issue. I'd rather take a chance on Cathro, who I reckon will still come good (despite a truly awful start, I concede), than go down the old faces route that is currently deep routed within Scottish football. That may just be me though. Of course it is an issue!! Right now Levein's appointment of Cathro looks to be a disaster - on that basis it is an issue for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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