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Anybody know of the academy players that will be ready to progress into the first team squad next season and make an impact

We need to be producing our own players as opposed to loan signings that just cost money we don't get back

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Currie is pushing on. Wondering if Zanatta and Godinho will be ready to push for a place or be cut free as they are hitting that age where they should be making the move into the first team squad. Ally Roy did well in last game and the winger who scored the 5th v Partick looks a player so maybe these guys will be ready to move up soon. Yet to see Beith getting any game time too, could be another.

 

Maybe towards the end of this season when we have little left to play for its time to start giving some of these guys a chance.

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We_are_the_Hearts

Currie will be the only one. After that I reckon Hamilton and Leoanard. Just my opinion.

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Currie will be the only one. After that I reckon Hamilton and Leoanard. Just my opinion.

Reid and Brandon any good.

 

But aye, Hamilton definitely, Leonard too if we can keep him and Anthony MacDonald seems decent but all three are a fair bit away.

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Reid and Brandon any good.

 

But aye, Hamilton definitely, Leonard too if we can keep him and Anthony MacDonald seems decent but all three are a fair bit away.

From what I have seen I would put Leonard and Hamilton slightly ahead of Cochrane and MacDonald. All fine lines though, staying injury free, developing, opportunity and opinion.

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Dallas Green

We only have one person on loan?

 

From what I understand we have a couple good youth players but they aren't quite ready to step up right now.

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It's a bit odd that the favoured centre-back pairing in the Development League side is Chris Hamilton and Leon Jones.  While both are decent in the air it doesn't look like either of them will end up being tall enough to play that position at a senior level.

 

Both have on occasions been played at right back, but the club risks losing them if it fails to develop them sufficiently to play elsewhere. I'd like to see both tried in a defensive midfield role as both are good passers and strong in the tackle.

 

In this week's U16 tournament, Chris was asked to play at centre back, right back and holding midfield at different times and I don't think we saw him at his best as a result.

 

Marc Leonard looks to have the ability to be a creative midfielder with the vision and ability to make a telling pass.  Harry Cochrane is much more of an industrious and combative midfielder.  Anthony McDonald is primarily a modern winger with good technique and an eye for goal, particularly when cutting inside onto his strong left foot.

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We only have one person on loan?

 

From what I understand we have a couple good youth players but they aren't quite ready to step up right now.

We currently have Roy, Zanatta, Moore and Morrison out on loan from the U20s.

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Dallas Green

We currently have Roy, Zanatta, Moore and Morrison out on loan from the U20s.

 

I thought the OP meant on loan at us, not out on loan. Maybe got the wrong end of the stick.

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It's a bit odd that the favoured centre-back pairing in the Development League side is Chris Hamilton and Leon Jones. While both are decent in the air it doesn't look like either of them will end up being tall enough to play that position at a senior level.

 

Both have on occasions been played at right back, but the club risks losing them if it fails to develop them sufficiently to play elsewhere. I'd like to see both tried in a defensive midfield role as both are good passers and strong in the tackle.

 

In this week's U16 tournament, Chris was asked to play at centre back, right back and holding midfield at different times and I don't think we saw him at his best as a result.

 

Marc Leonard looks to have the ability to be a creative midfielder with the vision and ability to make a telling pass. Harry Cochrane is much more of an industrious and combative midfielder. Anthony McDonald is primarily a modern winger with good technique and an eye for goal, particularly when cutting inside onto his strong left foot.

Agree 100% Chris will eventually play right back or as a holding midfielder, Harry is a pressing midfielder and a lot of teams are now playing the high pressing game, Marc has great composure and vision that makes a bit different from other midfielders and Anthony can make things happen when he's in the mood, I think if they all sign on in the summer in a couple of years you might just have the backbone of a team , coming through the academy they might just give us the passion the current team are lacking.

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Currie is pushing on. Wondering if Zanatta and Godinho will be ready to push for a place or be cut free as they are hitting that age where they should be making the move into the first team squad. Ally Roy did well in last game and the winger who scored the 5th v Partick looks a player so maybe these guys will be ready to move up soon. Yet to see Beith getting any game time too, could be another.

 

Maybe towards the end of this season when we have little left to play for its time to start giving some of these guys a chance.

Didn't Godinho get bad injury and just have an operation? Sure I read that somewhere.

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A disappointment for Andy Irving and Aaron Reid missing out on selection for the U17 squad for the UEFA Champs Elite round after being with the squad in Spain last week..

 

Celtic and Rangers get their usual quota of 10 though.

 

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A disappointment for Andy Irving and Aaron Reid missing out on selection for the U17 squad for the UEFA Champs Elite round after being with the squad in Spain last week..

 

Celtic and Rangers get their usual quota of 10 though.

 

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Must have good squad if Andy hasn't been called up as anytime I have seen him he oozes quality, Aaron is a big dependable type who can defend well and can also bomb forward strong and fast.

Hopefully they will get another chance , although the Glasgow mafia is hard to infeltrate.

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Danny back running and obviously in gym. Be next season before back playing though. Danny will have another year still on his contract.

 

Notice Daniel Baur hasn't played for yonks, what's his injury situation, contract situation?

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It's a bit odd that the favoured centre-back pairing in the Development League side is Chris Hamilton and Leon Jones.  While both are decent in the air it doesn't look like either of them will end up being tall enough to play that position at a senior level.

 

Both have on occasions been played at right back, but the club risks losing them if it fails to develop them sufficiently to play elsewhere. I'd like to see both tried in a defensive midfield role as both are good passers and strong in the tackle.

 

In this week's U16 tournament, Chris was asked to play at centre back, right back and holding midfield at different times and I don't think we saw him at his best as a result.

 

Marc Leonard looks to have the ability to be a creative midfielder with the vision and ability to make a telling pass.  Harry Cochrane is much more of an industrious and combative midfielder.  Anthony McDonald is primarily a modern winger with good technique and an eye for goal, particularly when cutting inside onto his strong left foot.

Development is the time when we SHOULD be testing players in different positions, not once they reach the first team. We destroyed Eggert Jonsson as a player and nearly did the same to McGowan by not finding their position before advancing them to the first team. They both became "utility men" at age 19!

 

Occasionally you will get a Paul Hartley who is a revelation in a different position in his mid-twenties but that is rare.  

 

I think the Academy is in safe hands. Levein took Gordon into the first team as a young GK and Hearts have done the same with Hamilton. I just wish we'd found a GK coach who could teach our GKs to kick long in the last 30 years...Henry Smith was a terrible kicker, so was Gordon and so is Hamilton!

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Agree 100% Chris will eventually play right back or as a holding midfielder, Harry is a pressing midfielder and a lot of teams are now playing the high pressing game, Marc has great composure and vision that makes a bit different from other midfielders and Anthony can make things happen when he's in the mood, I think if they all sign on in the summer in a couple of years you might just have the backbone of a team , coming through the academy they might just give us the passion the current team are lacking.

I'd like to add one other name among those currently at the Academy who could end up as the next to make a breakthrough. That lad is Euan Henderson.  He is 16 at the moment (17 in June), but he looks physically more prepared for a step up.  He is still at school and has a rugby background, having played for Scotland U16s as a centre, so he is probably better prepared for the physical contact in the senior game.  I'm pretty sure he will be offered a full time contract for next season.  It will be interesting to see how he develops with full time training if he accepts the offer.

 

Hearts U17s drew 2-2 with Hibs this morning, with Euan scoring both the goals. The first came from a free kick 25 yards out into the top corner, and the second with a shot from 18 yards that went in off the post after cutting in from the left.

 

Hearts should have won the game easily but as is their way these days, they surrendered a two goal lead, with the equaliser coming in stoppage time.  Chris Hamiton and Marc Leonard each played their fourth game in seven days. Chris started in midfield but ended up at full back while Marc started up front but ended up in midfield.  Hearts were at their best when Euan played as the main striker, using his pace to make runs in behind the defence.

 

I would hope that one or two youngsters are given a chance after the split to see how they fare in the SPFL.

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pattythejambo

I think the young lad ( fisher ) released by us may have been playing ?

Hibs being Hibs brought their u20 (overage) keeper down to play Greg Fisher was on the bench.

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I'd like to add one other name among those currently at the Academy who could end up as the next to make a breakthrough. That lad is Euan Henderson. He is 16 at the moment (17 in June), but he looks physically more prepared for a step up. He is still at school and has a rugby background, having played for Scotland U16s as a centre, so he is probably better prepared for the physical contact in the senior game. I'm pretty sure he will be offered a full time contract for next season. It will be interesting to see how he develops with full time training if he accepts the offer.

 

Hearts U17s drew 2-2 with Hibs this morning, with Euan scoring both the goals. The first came from a free kick 25 yards out into the top corner, and the second with a shot from 18 yards that went in off the post after cutting in from the left.

 

Hearts should have won the game easily but as is their way these days, they surrendered a two goal lead, with the equaliser coming in stoppage time. Chris Hamiton and Marc Leonard each played their fourth game in seven days. Chris started in midfield but ended up at full back while Marc started up front but ended up in midfield. Hearts were at their best when Euan played as the main striker, using his pace to make runs in behind the defence.

 

I would hope that one or two youngsters are given a chance after the split to see how they fare in the SPFL.

Thought the boy Henderson was outstanding in the first half strong and direct and 2 great finishes but I personally thought he was better coming in from the wide area. When Leonard was dropping into midfield from centre forward it was dragging their centre backs with him creating space in behind for Henderson to exploit.The game changed at halftime when Hamilton and Leonard changed positions for me this was done to help out the younger boys who were getting a bit overrun (U15's). It let Hibs get a foothold in the game.

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It's a bit odd that the favoured centre-back pairing in the Development League side is Chris Hamilton and Leon Jones.  While both are decent in the air it doesn't look like either of them will end up being tall enough to play that position at a senior level.

 

Both have on occasions been played at right back, but the club risks losing them if it fails to develop them sufficiently to play elsewhere. I'd like to see both tried in a defensive midfield role as both are good passers and strong in the tackle.

 

In this week's U16 tournament, Chris was asked to play at centre back, right back and holding midfield at different times and I don't think we saw him at his best as a result.

 

Marc Leonard looks to have the ability to be a creative midfielder with the vision and ability to make a telling pass.  Harry Cochrane is much more of an industrious and combative midfielder.  Anthony McDonald is primarily a modern winger with good technique and an eye for goal, particularly when cutting inside onto his strong left foot.

decent assesment however Anthony McDonald is not a winger, in fact he is a creative midfielder, a number 10 and that is ultimately where he will end up. Hearts have 3 very good centre midfielders and if they played Harry, Marc and Anthony together they would be a match for any team in the league. Anthony has the luxury of being able to play wide but his best position is as an attacking midfielder. Marc is better playing as a CM and Harry as a CDM but if you put them together they rotate through the positions because they all have great game intelligence. Future is bright at the Academy and these players will play at a high level if they keep going the way they are.

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I doubt we'll see any break through into the first team next season unfortunately.

I disagree....I think you will see 2 or 3 of them if not more making debuts next season

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I disagree....I think you will see 2 or 3 of them if not more making debuts next season

Would like to think so but in my opinion they are still a bit away physically they have undoubted ability but don't think they could compete at first team yet.

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Whilst we have some exciting young talent surely to think any of the 16 year olds will make their debut next season is deluded?? Even the most special talent in the country in Billy Gilmour is struggling to achieve this accolade?!?

 

I think having watched the game on Sunday we have some great talent and I agree the future at academy is bright. Think Leonard is best no10 out of them and Cochrane when fit is great in front of defence.

 

McDonald I have seen a few times wise and looks very clever - can't see him as a no10 however as doesn't play to his strengths. However loads of kids these days seem to aspire to be the luxury no10 - used to be the tough no9 but no one fancies that these days!!!!

 

Wherever the boys play they will be great future assets.

 

 

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Whilst we have some exciting young talent surely to think any of the 16 year olds will make their debut next season is deluded?? Even the most special talent in the country in Billy Gilmour is struggling to achieve this accolade?!?

 

I think having watched the game on Sunday we have some great talent and I agree the future at academy is bright. Think Leonard is best no10 out of them and Cochrane when fit is great in front of defence.

 

McDonald I have seen a few times wise and looks very clever - can't see him as a no10 however as doesn't play to his strengths. However loads of kids these days seem to aspire to be the luxury no10 - used to be the tough no9 but no one fancies that these days!!!!

 

Wherever the boys play they will be great future assets.

 

 

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Have to say that's my concern with the modern training and Box Soccer, Coerver etc. A lot of players are really similar. The days of big strong, tough tackling, no nonsense defenders and penalty box strikers who play on the last line are on the decline. We need to find away of getting these boys in and around the first team quicker than we have been though. They need exposure and to sink and swim early.

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I think part of the '5 year plan' was starting to see benefit from reinvestment in youth.  Funding had dropped in the final years of Vlad.  It could be another season or two before we start getting the next Jamie Walker, Sam Nicholson etc knocking on first team door.  

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Whilst we have some exciting young talent surely to think any of the 16 year olds will make their debut next season is deluded?? Even the most special talent in the country in Billy Gilmour is struggling to achieve this accolade?!?

 

I think having watched the game on Sunday we have some great talent and I agree the future at academy is bright. Think Leonard is best no10 out of them and Cochrane when fit is great in front of defence.

 

McDonald I have seen a few times wise and looks very clever - can't see him as a no10 however as doesn't play to his strengths. However loads of kids these days seem to aspire to be the luxury no10 - used to be the tough no9 but no one fancies that these days!!!!

 

Wherever the boys play they will be great future assets.

 

 

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This article is also relevant to Hearts and Scottish football in general from my experience. More so at the younger ages. http://keepitonthedeck.com/blog/2016/3/2/the-smarter-player

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Have to say that's my concern with the modern training and Box Soccer, Coerver etc. A lot of players are really similar. The days of big strong, tough tackling, no nonsense defenders and penalty box strikers who play on the last line are on the decline. We need to find away of getting these boys in and around the first team quicker than we have been though. They need exposure and to sink and swim early.

Yep, we don't need to find hammer throwers but we do need kids who have a tougher mentality and who can handle the physical elements of the game - that used to be 50/50's etc but that's changed- still needs bravery and to be honest lots of players who claim to be no10's are because they didn't fancy right up front or the midfield battle ground.

 

Scottish football isn't Spanish football or even European so no point comparing to that. Plus our kids now are middle class and lack the toughness of an upbringing where you had to scrap a bit.

 

 

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Chris Hamilton at centre half is a decent call just now.

 

Gets chance to develop in a challenging position and will help him develop his game including reading the game.

 

Midfield may well be his position via right back at senior level. But this is good development just now.

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Been following the 17s (some 20 games also) quietly most home games this season and the Scotland Victory shield games. I know we have a talented pool of players, must be if 7/8 getting contracts (we can guess the 7/8 if you are familiar with the 17s) and almost weekly there is a thread on here excited by them.

 

Hamilton is a great defender but needs to improve technical ability and also can lose focus/temper in games, likely to be a right back in time, Cochrane is a great number 8, all over the park and never stops, sometimes out of position and that can cause issues defensively, but he excels in this role,  Leonard in the final third has a calmness and a vision that is unique, only positions for him will be 10 or a fake 9, McDonald can only be a winger, not in same league as Leonard in the 10 position, I was speaking to a parent before the Hibs game and he told me that McDonald in the last 1 year has been injured more than not, surely not good for a young player to miss so much development.

 

Then you add Henderson, Ritchie, Sandison and Young and we have 7/8 who will get contracts in my view. Then it is upto all of them to use the full time to develop and become close to first team, not having a token 30 minutes as a reward for singing a contract as that could happen next pre-season. I am also keeping in my mind, our last successes who have made the breakthrough have not been our best hopes when they were all 16 years old so I am watching this pool of players, best we have had in 10 years and intrigued to see how they all do in time.

 

The future is definitely maroon providing they all sign and don?t get heads turned by Glasgow and 2 minutes of fame and fortune.

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leonard in my view is our most exciting attacking player for many years, hopefully he stays and does not get head turned by celtic

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leonard in my view is our most exciting attacking player for many years, hopefully he stays and does not get head turned by celtic

I was of the impression he was a Jambo (think it was stated on a thread on here a while back) but I was told the other week his family are big Celtic fans.

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Surprised the club haven't moved for some of the Tynie u16 team. About 5 of them are likely to be playing professionally next year including one with a famous name who has scored 74 goals so far this season.

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In today's EEN Ian Cathro says 8 academy players are signing first team contracts.

 

Event to announce it next week.

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Surprised the club haven't moved for some of the Tynie u16 team. About 5 of them are likely to be playing professionally next year including one with a famous name who has scored 74 goals so far this season.

Wow 74 goals at any level is great!

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Surprised the club haven't moved for some of the Tynie u16 team. About 5 of them are likely to be playing professionally next year including one with a famous name who has scored 74 goals so far this season.

Just aswell your not scouting for Hearts if you think 5 of that team will be pro next year. Some really good players but not at a level to be at Hearts. The famous name sake has already been at Hearts and was deemed not good enough but he certainly knows where the net is for fun. The one player I give a real chance to is the kid playing a year above and should be at 15's he's the real talent.
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In today's EEN Ian Cathro says 8 academy players are signing first team contracts.

 

Event to announce it next week.

Terrific news that all eight boys are signing I feared we might lose 2 or 3 of them , credit to

R Arnott and the coaching team for convincing the boys their future lies at Hearts. I had been told that 3 of them were almost certainly away, as their was interest from England and from the green end of Glasgow.

keep up the good work (Hearts) as I think eventually we might see 4 or 5 of them breaking through into the first team within the next couple of years.

Will definitely follow this group with interest.

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Just aswell your not scouting for Hearts if you think 5 of that team will be pro next year. Some really good players but not at a level to be at Hearts. The famous name sake has already been at Hearts and was deemed not good enough but he certainly knows where the net is for fun. The one player I give a real chance to is the kid playing a year above and should be at 15's he's the real talent.

He's a cracking player and likely to be playing for Hibs next year as he's still contracted to another team and Hibs won't pay a fee for him when they can get him for free next year.

 

Personally I would still go with the striker and am surprised that Hearts let him go.

 

I have heard Middlesboro are after another one of that team.

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He's a cracking player and likely to be playing for Hibs next year as he's still contracted to another team and Hibs won't pay a fee for him when they can get him for free next year.

 

Personally I would still go with the striker and am surprised that Hearts let him go.

 

I have heard Middlesboro are after another one of that team.

Yeah he's a cracking talent and let's all hope he goes all the way! Regarding name sake he should be given a chance but that's not modern day football unfortunately. This he's not big enough, fit enough becomes the excuses we use to easily but like I said earlier the boy knows how to hit the net with style. The kind of player if used correctly with players to do the work would succeed but that seems to be old school. Middlesbrough have been after the same player for the last three years pre-Tynecastle boys club and it will never happen because of various reasons that will remain a private matter and not public.
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What's become of Beith these days? Is he doing anything of note off at Stirling?

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Terrific news that all eight boys are signing I feared we might lose 2 or 3 of them , credit to

R Arnott and the coaching team for convincing the boys their future lies at Hearts. I had been told that 3 of them were almost certainly away, as their was interest from England and from the green end of Glasgow.

keep up the good work (Hearts) as I think eventually we might see 4 or 5 of them breaking through into the first team within the next couple of years.

Will definitely follow this group with interest.

Yeah

 

Think its this Wednesday we'll get news but good to hear today

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