kila Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Spurting some pish on Sportscene yet again. Talking about us having signed 30 odd players since 'the new regime'. He's got an agenda (anti Levein), because he's purposefully leaving out context - that we were in administration, then had a Championship squad to revamp for the top flight, oh and that we've had a couple of long term injuries that need cover. He went on to say that the head coach should only deal with the players already there, not sign their own, implying Cathro shouldn't have been allowed to sign any new faces in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why does anyone who has an opinion that is not 100% positive have an agenda against Levein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb8 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why does anyone who has an opinion that is not 100% positive have an agenda against Levein? Tend to agree. Anything that questions the clubs strategy these days tends to lead in having an agenda against someone at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Take it Michael Stewart isn't the best pundit on TV this week then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why does anyone who has an opinion that is not 100% positive have an agenda against Levein? I think it's fair to say that since Levein called it right on Stewart's ability as a footballer (i.e. not good enough for Hearts), Stewart has had a chip on his shoulder - almost as big as his over-inflated opinion of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz FTH Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Stewart has been right about Levein from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why does anyone who has an opinion that is not 100% positive have an agenda against Levein? Exactly. The results and performances leave us rightly exposed to criticism. Some are incredibly precious and hyper sensitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 How many people 'just hate Levein'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why does anyone who has an opinion that is not 100% positive have an agenda against Levein? Good point. Sadly people refuse to see past Levein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Stewart has been right about Levein from the start. No he hasn't. He suggested Levein was picking the team, a claim rubbished by Neilson and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly the Saltire Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Michael Stewart is probably the best Scottish TV pundit and was pretty fair in what he said about Levein's role and questioned Cathro's team selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Did anyone call stewart out on his pitch size analysis from last week?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz FTH Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Might not be picking the team but he sets the philosophy. There probably is a chip on Stewart's shoulder from his days under Levein but he has been outspoken all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Spurting some pish on Sportscene yet again. Talking about us having signed 30 odd players since 'the new regime'. He's got an agenda (anti Levein), because he's purposefully leaving out context - that we were in administration, then had a Championship squad to revamp for the top flight, oh and that we've had a couple of long term injuries that need cover. He went on to say that the head coach should only deal with the players already there, not sign their own, implying Cathro shouldn't have been allowed to sign any new faces in January. Stewart is a PHM who IMO is probably the best pundit in scotland. Speaks his mind and not afraid to upset anyone. I have no doubt at all that 80% of our signings have come from Levein. Your telling me that Cathro knew of Sowah? Or the greek boys etc. Granted he clearly had a big say on Goncalves coming but was same for Neilson. CL and john Murray are behind 80% of all our signings since the new regime. And very few get pass marks. MARTIN, OSHANIWA, SAMMON all on 3 year deals gtf man. Our signing policy seems to be get in whoever we can and hope they work and for me they dont. Giving 6 month deals to players is the better idea as they know they are fighting for a new deal or a big move. 3 year deals to likes of Osh Martin and Sammon make them do **** all because they know they picking up a wage regardless. The regime is shite and Cathro is working with other peoples players and not his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 No he hasn't. He suggested Levein was picking the team, a claim rubbished by Neilson and players. He never said that. He said how we played was like a Levein team. Not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz FTH Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 He never said that. He said how we played was like a Levein team. Not the same thing. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Don't normally mind Stewart, but if he and all the others like him, are such tactical geniuses, why aren't they willing or able to put their reputations on the line and go out and do some coaching themselves. Far too easy to sit on the sideline and criticise everyone, but offer nothing themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Michael Stewart calls it as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Totally agree with Michael today. He has been reading my posts .9 changes, no continuity wtf is the plan or strategy Levein has in place. I would love to hear from Levein specifically what the strategy is. As Stewart correctly points out he is getting paid a lot of money for continuity that simply does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Stewart is a PHM who IMO is probably the best pundit in scotland. Speaks his mind and not afraid to upset anyone. I have no doubt at all that 80% of our signings have come from Levein. Your telling me that Cathro knew of Sowah? Or the greek boys etc. Granted he clearly had a big say on Goncalves coming but was same for Neilson. CL and john Murray are behind 80% of all our signings since the new regime. And very few get pass marks. MARTIN, OSHANIWA, SAMMON all on 3 year deals gtf man. Our signing policy seems to be get in whoever we can and hope they work and for me they dont. Giving 6 month deals to players is the better idea as they know they are fighting for a new deal or a big move. 3 year deals to likes of Osh Martin and Sammon make them do **** all because they know they picking up a wage regardless. The regime is shite and Cathro is working with other peoples players and not his own If you could be bothered doing any research at all, you would know it was Austin M who knew about the Greek players through his involvement with Northern Ireland in their Euro qualifiers. Same for Strunah I believe, but carry on blaming Levein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Did anyone call stewart out on his pitch size analysis from last week?? Yeah http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/166919-sportscene/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Don't normally mind Stewart, but if he and all the others like him, are such tactical geniuses, why aren't they willing or able to put their reputations on the line and go out and do some coaching themselves. Far too easy to sit on the sideline and criticise everyone, but offer nothing themselves. So basically, you don't normally mind him, but you do today, because he is not saying Levein is wonderful, and that Cathro is doing a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Roll up, roll up. It's the Agenda Merry-go-round. Come and have a spin. 50p each or 3 for a pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Amazingly , Jackie Macnamara was up from York last week and ripping Levein apart. Not sure he'd say it to his face but blames Levein for the majority of Dundee United's mess / debt . Several other character flaws were raised also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Totally agree with Michael today. He has been reading my posts .9 changes, no continuity wtf is the plan or strategy Levein has in place. I would love to hear from Levein specifically what the strategy is. As Stewart correctly points out he is getting paid a lot of money for continuity that simply does not exist. Levein is happy hiding in the background when it comes to the media so don't pin your hopes on hearing from him! I'm aware we had a Q & A on kickback with him. Maybe that is something we could look into again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I like Stewart most of the time but I don't take much note when he speaks about Levein. It's known he doesn't like him and I think it clouds his judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Amazingly , Jackie Macnamara was up from York last week and ripping Levein apart. Not sure he'd say it to his face but blames Levein for the majority of Dundee United's mess / debt . Several other character flaws were raised also. Well if that's what that wee scrote is saying then Levein can't be all bad, I'm on Leveins side if he is upsetting McNamara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Wish I hadn't mentioned Levein... My frustration is Stewart left out the context of signing 30 odd players to make his point stronger. He's a pundit on national TV. Help the viewers out with some context eh. And that goes for about all clubs when he does the likes of Sportscene, not just Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Rothstein Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 The fact that he's being talked about as the "best pundit out there" says all you need to know about punditry in Scottish football. He's thick as ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellion Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I like Stewart most of the time but I don't take much note when he speaks about Levein. It's known he doesn't like him and I think it clouds his judgment. Correct. He's generally decent but has hated Levein for years and will say just about anything if it's critical of Levein. I don't mind him on other things but the past couple weeks will have been like Christmas for him. (Not defending Levein). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 So basically, you don't normally mind him, but you do today, because he is not saying Levein is wonderful, and that Cathro is doing a great job. No, that isn't what I am saying. I am saying it would be nice if pundits would actually have some experience of coaching themselves, before they slate everyone. Barry Ferguson and Craigan are giving it a go, but I can't think of any of the other pundits who commentate on Scottish games who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 No, that isn't what I am saying. I am saying it would be nice if pundits would actually have some experience of coaching themselves, before they slate everyone. Barry Ferguson and Craigan are giving it a go, but I can't think of any of the other pundits who commentate on Scottish games who do. I agree. But why only call it out when someone has criticised Levein? Why not when they have praised him, or us, or criticised other teams. I also must say Craigan talks a lot more shite than Stewart, so despite his involvement in coaching, he has not been immune to criticism on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What are we paying Levein for. I would love to know. Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Amazingly , Jackie Macnamara was up from York last week and ripping Levein apart. Not sure he'd say it to his face but blames Levein for the majority of Dundee United's mess / debt . Several other character flaws were raised also. Don't know any detail on United finances but there were a lot of players signed there at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just joe Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 9/10 for Stewart as a pundit He talks less shite than the rest of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Law Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Spurting some pish on Sportscene yet again. Talking about us having signed 30 odd players since 'the new regime'. He's got an agenda (anti Levein), because he's purposefully leaving out context - that we were in administration, then had a Championship squad to revamp for the top flight, oh and that we've had a couple of long term injuries that need cover. He went on to say that the head coach should only deal with the players already there, not sign their own, implying Cathro shouldn't have been allowed to sign any new faces in January. Totally disagree think Michael speaks a lot of sense,accurately reflects on the mismanagement at Tynecastle ( on the playing side!) The team selection yesterday was amateurish to say the least a view supported by Cathros inability to provide any sensible rationale in his after match interview. It's almost a replica of team selection in Robbies tenure players constantly asked to do things they are unable to do out of position. There is however one common denominator A one time Hearts legend slowly becoming the club clown. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hearts Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Totally agree with Michael today. He has been reading my posts .9 changes, no continuity wtf is the plan or strategy Levein has in place. I would love to hear from Levein specifically what the strategy is. As Stewart correctly points out he is getting paid a lot of money for continuity that simply does not exist. ThisWhat are we paying Levein for. I would love to know. Does anyone know? And this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Totally disagree think Michael speaks a lot of sense,accurately reflects on the mismanagement at Tynecastle ( on the playing side!) The team selection yesterday was amateurish to say the least a view supported by Cathros inability to provide any sensible rationale in his after match interview. It's almost a replica of team selection in Robbies tenure players constantly asked to do things they are unable to do out of position. There is however one common denominator A one time Hearts legend slowly becoming the club clown. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ironically, Robbie had realised he needed width and was using Muirhead, we seem to be unbelievably back to playing narrow constantly and being exposed on the wings defensively. We are witnessing all of the same mistakes play out again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Don't know any detail on United finances but there were a lot of players signed there at that time.Eddie Thomson blew a fortune when Ian Mccall was manager. Chisholm and Brewster also had hefty budgets. Levein tidied up the mess. Questions to be asked about our recruitment strategy but he was very good for Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Eddie Thomson blew a fortune when Ian Mccall was manager. Chisholm and Brewster also had hefty budgets. Levein tidied up the mess. Questions to be asked about our recruitment strategy but he was very good for Utd. I agree which makes the hear and now disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Law Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Ironically, Robbie had realised he needed width and was using Muirhead, we seem to be unbelievably back to playing narrow constantly and being exposed on the wings defensively. We are witnessing all of the same mistakes play out again bang on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texia Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Amazingly , Jackie Macnamara was up from York last week and ripping Levein apart. Not sure he'd say it to his face but blames Levein for the majority of Dundee United's mess / debt . Several other character flaws were raised also. McNamara sold his soul to the devil. Him and Thompson allowing all their best players to leave in January right before a cup final against them, to profit personally themselves was the lowest of the low. His opinion isn't worth 2 shiny shits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedStarRiot Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Stewart has been right about Levein from the start. Or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Didn't see Sportscene but from what's been reported here I'd say Stewart has a good point - we don't have a discernible pattern of play and there's far too much chopping and changing. Cathro needs to find a team and style and stick to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds66 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Did not hear what Michael said, but I generally think he gives an honest opinion and talks sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 McNamara sold his soul to the devil. Him and Thompson allowing all their best players to leave in January right before a cup final against them, to profit personally themselves was the lowest of the low. His opinion isn't worth 2 shiny shits. Exactly. With Jackies record, i'd be keeping my trap shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I only care about the spineless pricks that pull on the jersey . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why does anyone who has an opinion that is not 100% positive have an agenda against Levein? Why does everything the club says regarding Levein have to be open to debate? Why the agendas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Eddie Thomson blew a fortune when Ian Mccall was manager. Chisholm and Brewster also had hefty budgets. Levein tidied up the mess. Questions to be asked about our recruitment strategy but he was very good for Utd. I think he signed about 20 players in a couple of seasons at United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I agree. But why only call it out when someone has criticised Levein? Why not when they have praised him, or us, or criticised other teams. I also must say Craigan talks a lot more shite than Stewart, so despite his involvement in coaching, he has not been immune to criticism on here. Have always said and thought it but never saw appropriate thread till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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