Mr Sifter Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 You should email that in. Would be a waste of an email to be fair. They're never gonny highlight their own inadequacies. Not when it's easier to just point and laugh at others!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBones Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Heard the same old crap when Robbie came in and budgment day. They were wrong then and I think they'll be wrong now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc-jambo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Thats a shocker! From what I remember of English is that he always licked the backsides of Hibs and slated Hearts at every opportunity! Heh Jambonian -- I guess you missed an earlier thread in which English's recent comments on Hearts, including a speaker's gig at a supporters' dinner, led some people to speculate (tongue-in-cheek) that he should be invited to open the new stand. It wasn't serious but it would be funny if he did. Today, Ewan Murray and Tom English have both been using the Cathro appointment to open fire on all of the sh*** that runs and dominates and wrecks Scottish football (see other threat on Murray). This is really good news in my opinion. However Cathro works out, HMFC and Queen Ann are turning over a few apple-carts and at least holding out a little hope against the useless, Old Firm and GFA set-up that is in such a hopeless, terminal decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Heard the same old crap when Robbie came in and budgment day. They were wrong then and I think they'll be wrong now This How many of them went on about how unfair it was to sack Gary Locke, when he wasn't actually sacked, just wasn't given a new contract? They they started all the unfounded guff about Neilson only getting the job because he would be Levein's puppet. Already, at today's press conference, some journo asked Cathro whether it would be him or Levein who picked the team. Cathro put the guy right in his place. It seems there are still a lot of people out there who still don't understand, or choose not to understand, the DoF football role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Heh Jambonian -- I guess you missed an earlier thread in which English's recent comments on Hearts, including a speaker's gig at a supporters' dinner, led some people to speculate (tongue-in-cheek) that he should be invited to open the new stand. It wasn't serious but it would be funny if he did. Today, Ewan Murray and Tom English have both been using the Cathro appointment to open fire on all of the sh*** that runs and dominates and wrecks Scottish football (see other threat on Murray). This is really good news in my opinion. However Cathro works out, HMFC and Queen Ann are turning over a few apple-carts and at least holding out a little hope against the useless, Old Firm and GFA set-up that is in such a hopeless, terminal decline. Ewan Murray is a PHM.Tom English will never be. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Cheever Loophole Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ewan Murray is a PHM. Tom English will never be. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk We're all forever slagging the SMSM for their bias to those pillars of bigotry and yet when one of them tries to fight our corner, he's not a PHM. Murray may be a PHM and that's his only attribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macros Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Listening to that makes it all the more obvious that; 1/ Like the SFA and SPFL, the BBC Scotland football coverage is an old pals act with old ideas, unwilling and in many cases unable to change their mindset that Scottish football is nothing but Celtic and The Rangers with a few hangers-on, 2/ Willie Miller is a bitter, bitter man who should know better than to keep alive that notion. He lived through and was a main part of Aberdeen's greatest era but is now firmly entrenched in the camp that because Aberdeen can't challenge the Glasgow mafia then no-one can and no-one should, 3/ Pat Bonner is a slavering a**e, trotted out because he played for one of them, no opinion other than his beloved Celtic are great. I was surprised how well Scott McDonald came over, one of those players who gets right up your nose during games but was quite fair in his comments and was at least willing to listen to Tom English's points and was complimentary about the appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy_Jambo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 This time last year, you lot were slagging Tom English off. He sticks up for what he believes in and suddenly he's a Hearts fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Look what happened when Vlad dared to say he was here to win the league. The media lost the plot and made it their personal mission to prove him wrong and disrupt him as mush as possible. Yeah he was a mental case but my good they done everything they could do upset him and prove him wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 English said some despicable things about Hearts Fans when Vlad was in charge. He can **** off with his arse licking now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 This time last year, you lot were slagging Tom English off. He sticks up for what he believes in and suddenly he's a Hearts fan. Actually - bar the episode when he was clearly directed by his Scotsman editor I think this board has been nothing but complimentary to Tom English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Sums up everything that we all know is wrong with Scottish football. It will be a cold day in hell when I pay any attention to the likes of Miller, Bonner or some hack like Gordon. I'm sure AB and CL couldn't give a flying **** what these pillars of the Scottish game feel. That in itself is good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 The media are missing one crucial point...Craig Levein knows more about football than all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 We're all forever slagging the SMSM for their bias to those pillars of bigotry and yet when one of them tries to fight our corner, he's not a PHM. Murray may be a PHM and that's his only attribute. Murray is a very good journalist, Hearts fan or not. Until recently English was up with the very worst of the Scottish media in his coverage of Hearts. He now seems to have reinvented himself as a maverick outsider who calls out the old entrenched attitudes. We'll see how long that lasts. I suspect until he's offered another role in the MSM. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Murray is a very good journalist, Hearts fan or not. Until recently English was up with the very worst of the Scottish media in his coverage of Hearts. He now seems to have reinvented himself as a maverick outsider who calls out the old entrenched attitudes. We'll see how long that lasts. I suspect until he's offered another role in the MSM. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Cynical. But true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Actually - bar the episode when he was clearly directed by his Scotsman editor I think this board has been nothing but complimentary to Tom English Agreed. When he was working for the Hibsman he had an editorial line to follow. H1b5 = good, Hearts = bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Yes Willie, we'd like to win the league - is it really THAT amazing? Go get 'em Tom, bloody naysayers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidebottom Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 What rock did they drag Bonner out from under? There was a 20 year gap between his playing career finishing and his punditry career starting... Bonner's quote was that maybe the old school coaches could be assisted by one of the new, modern coaches who "could work the computer quicker". It's all about the computers these days, you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy_Jambo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tom English has been the most intelligent Sports Journalist on Radio Scotland for years now. Folk are too quick to snap at anything they deem anti Hearts and going by tonight, the same goes for anytime someone sticks up for Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tom English has been the most intelligent Sports Journalist on Radio Scotland for years now. Folk are too quick to snap at anything they deem anti Hearts and going by tonight, the same goes for anytime someone sticks up for Hearts. Aye aye, we get it, we should be less partisan on a hearts forum, you're better than all that, blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Cheever Loophole Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Murray is a very good journalist, Hearts fan or not. Until recently English was up with the very worst of the Scottish media in his coverage of Hearts. He now seems to have reinvented himself as a maverick outsider who calls out the old entrenched attitudes. We'll see how long that lasts. I suspect until he's offered another role in the MSM. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Aye we'll see. I think English has seen the light and the true state of our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Agreed. When he was working for the Hibsman he had an editorial line to follow. H1b5 = good, Hearts = bad.Even if that is true what does it say about his journalistic credibility? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Aye we'll see. I think English has seen the light and the true state of our game. Took a while and a job loss though. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy_Jambo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Aye aye, we get it, we should be less partisan on a hearts forum, you're better than all that, blah blah blah I wasnae even talking about parmesan. I just wish people would stop and think before going for all out outrage or all out praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Shillyshally Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I think TE just calls it fairly, which is really what these guys should be doing It just seems refreshing because we are all used to the usual OF apologists with their Glasgow based agendas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Agreed. When he was working for the Hibsman he had an editorial line to follow. H1b5 = good, Hearts = bad. No surprise given he was working for vajillions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 ******* hate Richard Gordon. PrickI used to like him, a non-OF fan anchoring national radio coverage of the national game, but having to talk about the OF non-stop has changed him.How anyone who doesn't support them could get as excited as he does about Celtic in the CL is beyond me, way beyond playing to his audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I think TE just calls it fairly, which is really what these guys should be doing It just seems refreshing because we are all used to the usual OF apologists with their Glasgow based agendas He does call it as he sees it. It's just a shame he hasn't taken on the challenge of exposing the corruption in the corridors of power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I think TE just calls it fairly, which is really what these guys should be doing It just seems refreshing because we are all used to the usual OF apologists with their Glasgow based agendas It would be more impressive if he hadn't spent years being part of the problem. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I used to like him, a non-OF fan anchoring national radio coverage of the national game, but having to talk about the OF non-stop has changed him. How anyone who doesn't support them could get as excited as he does about Celtic in the CL is beyond me, way beyond playing to his audience. The Mikolainus business put me right off him. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 What rock did they drag Bonner out from under? There was a 20 year gap between his playing career finishing and his punditry career starting... Was thinking this myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Willie Millar confirming he is a scrotum sack. He's a dinosaur that should go and join the the others in far off Jurassic Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I wasnae even talking about parmesan. I just wish people would stop and think before going for all out outrage or all out praise. Good luck with that, but you're as well wishing for a tail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 English knows his sport. Quality journalist with an open mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I said last week that Fullarton was a penis, I was proven right with that. You can also add the majority of 'pundits' to the list of penises. Bonner, Miller, Chic, Billy Brown, Keith Jackson etc. Only a few sound like they know what they actually are talking about - English, Scott McDonald, Mikey Stewart and sometimes Speirs. Sadly, they're shouted down more often than not by the penis element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I said last week that Fullarton was a penis, I was proven right with that. You can also add the majority of 'pundits' to the list of penises. Bonner, Miller, Chic, Billy Brown, Keith Jackson etc. Only a few sound like they know what they actually are talking about - English, Scott McDonald, Mikey Stewart and sometimes Speirs. Sadly, they're shouted down more often than not by the penis element. More than half that list, decent pundits as they can be, are at best self obsessed arseholes. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I said last week that Fullarton was a penis, I was proven right with that. You can also add the majority of 'pundits' to the list of penises. Bonner, Miller, Chic, Billy Brown, Keith Jackson etc. Only a few sound like they know what they actually are talking about - English, Scott McDonald, Mikey Stewart and sometimes Speirs. Sadly, they're shouted down more often than not by the penis element. The Mainstream Football Media in Scotland has a fair sprinkling of men who were complete and utter failures as coaches. Funny coincidence that huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 The whole system is corrupt any journo not towing the party line would have exposed this years ago but when they are just as guilty flying first class and being put up in 5 star hotels why rock the boat,utter scumbags everyone of them would not trust a so called journo if my life depended on it.No matter when cathro does the business they will fawn over us to get a quote the we can tell them all to go feck themselves we don't need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 We're all forever slagging the SMSM for their bias to those pillars of bigotry and yet when one of them tries to fight our corner, he's not a PHM. Murray may be a PHM and that's his only attribute. Tom English is from Limerick. In Ireland. MacdonaldJardine is 'Rangers-minded'. MJ's dislike of Tom English has little to do with the journalism and lots to do with other factors. In my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tom English has grown to respect and to a point like our club ,since his early zombie comments ,when English first appeared I think he tried the shock jock approach but has grown up into one of our best sports writers . As for Willie Miller his when he made those limit comments I was thinking he played under arguably the nations top club manager in Ferguson did he learn nothing from him . I would imagine football people in England ,Spain and Portugal are all bemused by the weegie old guards response to the Cathro appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I applaud English for fighting Ian Cathro's corner (albeit he doesn't need it as his results will do that for him) but won't forget what he wrote about us. Yes, us. For that reason I am not joining in on the love in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tom English is from Limerick. In Ireland. MacdonaldJardine is 'Rangers-minded'. MJ's dislike of Tom English has little to do with the journalism and lots to do with other factors. In my opinion... Why not come out and say exactly what you mean? What "other factors"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Why not come out and say exactly what you mean? What "other factors"? Hiya BB, I'm shocked to see you interject on this one... "Tom English is from Limerick. In Ireland. MacdonaldJardine is 'Rangers-minded'. In my opinion." I'm using the phrase 'Rangers-minded' in the same way that 'Rangers-minded' folk might use the phrase 'Celtic-minded'. Anyway, I've dragged the thread slightly off-topic, and it's way past my bedtime... Long story short: Tom English, Ewan Murray, & Scott MacDonald = Good, Willie Miller, Pat Bonner & Richard Gordon = Honking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychocAndy Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 One not mentioned and boiled my pish this week is Richard Wilson and his tweet about Hearts and Ian Cathro. Ok it was a pun but it brought in an unnecessary element that is more a weedgie thing than a Scottish Football thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Hiya BB, I'm shocked to see you interject on this one... "Tom English is from Limerick. In Ireland. MacdonaldJardine is 'Rangers-minded'. In my opinion." I'm using the phrase 'Rangers-minded' in the same way that 'Rangers-minded' folk might use the phrase 'Celtic-minded'. Anyway, I've dragged the thread slightly off-topic, and it's way past my bedtime... Long story short: Tom English, Ewan Murray, & Scott MacDonald = Good, Willie Miller, Pat Bonner & Richard Gordon = Honking. So you dont actually have the balls to say what you mean, just hint that another poster is bigoted. Bullshit. & pretty cowardly. I dislike Tom English for what he wrote (more than once) about US. Perhaps MJ has a similar opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy_Jambo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 They call me Cuban PeteI'm the king of the rhumba beatWhen I play the maracas I go chick chicky boom, chick chicky boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 So you dont actually have the balls to say what you mean, just hint that another poster is bigoted. Bullshit. & pretty cowardly. I dislike Tom English for what he wrote (more than once) about US. Perhaps MJ has a similar opinion? I don't think it's a question of balls, more a question of avoiding censure, which seems wise to me tbh. If I wanted to say another poster was a bigoted hun, I'd probably hide behind "rangers minded" and the nasty overtones that brings too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Richard Gordon is an arseh@le. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I don't think it's a question of balls, more a question of avoiding censure, which seems wise to me tbh. If I wanted to say another poster was a bigoted hun, I'd probably hide behind "rangers minded" and the nasty overtones that brings too I disagree, if I think something then I say it. I prefer to be honest than a coward. If someone doesn't have the guts to say something then they shouldnt hint towards it. Anyway, I still dont buy into the Tom English wank-fest. And Ian Cathro wont need the likes of him fighting his corner, he will prove himself to be a winner with the team at Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Actually - bar the episode when he was clearly directed by his Scotsman editor I think this board has been nothing but complimentary to Tom English That's not remotely true. He was lambasted as a pitiful excuse for a journalist for a long time on here, probably not so coincidentally when there was a wee bit more for the neutral to criticise about our club. I can remember him going a wee bit over the top once, maybe twice, but he was far from a bad journalist then and isn't particularly different now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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