Thomaso Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The latest update from Greenginger on Bitters.net "I was speaking to a couple of the contractors working on site yesterday. The idea seems to be the assembled main beam for the new stand will be hoisted over the old stand and fixed to the top of the existing corner supports. That will be all that is done before the end of the season and will save a couple of weeks for the new stand construction" Jeez!!! I need to get on to the Project Manager with this news - he has programmed the steelwork to the rear of the stand to commence in March, and the glazed fa?ade installation to start in May! This is a disaster!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny1874 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 New Main Stand will have a 32 degree incline instead of 34 (as per the other three). But the fans will be closer to the pitch than the current stand, especially the first ten rows. I doubt their will be any information on this, but has it been mentioned what the current incline of the Main Stand is? I think it might be fair to say that the new stand will be steeper than the old stand? Though not as steep as the other three. Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Thomaso, on 19 Jan 2017 - 11:39 AM, said: The latest update from Greenginger on Bitters.net "I was speaking to a couple of the contractors working on site yesterday. The idea seems to be the assembled main beam for the new stand will be hoisted over the old stand and fixed to the top of the existing corner supports. That will be all that is done before the end of the season and will save a couple of weeks for the new stand construction" Jeez!!! I need to get on to the Project Manager with this news - he has programmed the steelwork to the rear of the stand to commence in March, and the glazed fa?ade installation to start in May! This is a disaster!!! And what was he doing there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I doubt their will be any information on this, but has it been mentioned what the current incline of the Main Stand is? I think it might be fair to say that the new stand will be steeper than the old stand? Though not as steep as the other three. Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk I got the 32 degree from the architects drawings (which are on the council's website). The new stand will be steeper than the old one and will feel much closer to the pitch, but slightly less steeper than the other three stands. No idea what the old stand is, but the lower section are very shallow. Edited January 19, 2017 by Buffalo Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 jonnothejambo, on 19 Jan 2017 - 11:58 AM, said:Masturbating profusely probably.... Doubt he's got one to do that with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallschunkychicken Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The latest update from Greenginger on Bitters.net "I was speaking to a couple of the contractors working on site yesterday. The idea seems to be the assembled main beam for the new stand will be hoisted over the old stand and fixed to the top of the existing corner supports. That will be all that is done before the end of the season and will save a couple of weeks for the new stand construction" Jeez!!! I need to get on to the Project Manager with this news - he has programmed the steelwork to the rear of the stand to commence in March, and the glazed fa?ade installation to start in May! This is a disaster!!! I note he's also claiming we have no building warrants for any of the work completed. Seriously sad existence, that boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Should've just asked and id have moved. I was there for literally two minutes whilst I took the above vids. Didn't realise that was the single vantage point on McLeod Street. Hope it hasn't ruined your day ffs You were there for more than 2 minutes, more like 15 ! and you WERE on THEE single vantage point on McLeod Street, mine.... have you moved yet ? Edited January 19, 2017 by dannymack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Should've made a show of taking his plate number, and license, and if asked what you were doing, told him you work for Edinburgh Council and will be making the relevant department aware. If you were feeling particularly ******* and bored, that is... It's okay, I know him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 marshallschunkychicken, on 19 Jan 2017 - 12:04 PM, said: I note he's also claiming we have no building warrants for any of the work completed. Seriously sad existence, that boy. Indeed Scabbies Greenginger...jeez what an utter cretin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Taken about 11am today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 You were there for more than 2 minutes, more like 15 ! and you WERE on THEE single vantage point on McLeod Street, mine.... have you moved yet ? Take it you were the guy with the short dark hair and glasses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 It's okay, I know him Eh? Well this is gettin weird!!?? What does this mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Taken about 11am today TynieTruss.JPG A lot of progress already this morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Taken about 11am today TynieTruss.JPG Isn't that just amazing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie Masterton Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The latest update from Greenginger on Bitters.net "I was speaking to a couple of the contractors working on site yesterday. The idea seems to be the assembled main beam for the new stand will be hoisted over the old stand and fixed to the top of the existing corner supports. That will be all that is done before the end of the season and will save a couple of weeks for the new stand construction" Jeez!!! I need to get on to the Project Manager with this news - he has programmed the steelwork to the rear of the stand to commence in March, and the glazed fa?ade installation to start in May! This is a disaster!!! And we still don't have a building warrant for the Wheatfield undercroft. The boys absolutely barking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Henry Furst Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Same size Reminds me of the sketch where father ted is explaining to dougal that the toy cow in his hand was small but the ones in the field were far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 And what was he doing there? Official Bitters.net Clerk of Works. Hope he had his hard hat, safety boots and Hi Viz vest on when he was "speaking to a couple of contractors" Health & Safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Thomaso, on 19 Jan 2017 - 12:38 PM, said: Official Bitters.net Clerk of Works. Hope he had his hard hat, safety boots and Hi Viz vest on when he was "speaking to a couple of contractors" Health & Safety In other words he spoke to nobody but his palm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Masturbating profusely probably.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I have it on good authority that Greenginger is going to new York to film the twin towers as he doesn't believe they both collapsed after the attack in 2001. It didn't happen it was a yams/scumbos conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 John Findlay, on 19 Jan 2017 - 1:04 PM, said:I have it on good authority that Greenginger is going to new York to film the twin towers as he doesn't believe they both collapsed after the attack in 2001. It didn't happen it was a yams/scumbos conspiracy. He'll be claiming they didn't have planning permission in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTeeJnr Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Another wee update. The truss is beginning to take shape on its frame. As jamboinglasgow says, it's gonny be massive when it's fully put together. These vids and pic were taken minutes ago... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks for posting Mr Sifter. With the amount of pics/vids and info on here, we're all going to be construction experts by September! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I for one am very excited about the new stand but some amount of work on the other three stands will need to be done to live up to the new stand,no point in giving us a new main stand,while the other three stands are needing some attention,just hope all the makeover of the other three will do the main stand justice. We've got a bright future a head of us people. Edited January 19, 2017 by Lucille's Thirsty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I for one am very excited about the new stand but some amount of work on the other three stands will need to be done to live up to the new stand,no point in giving us a new main stand,while the other three stands are needing some attention,just hope all the makeover of the other three will do the main stand justice. We've got a bright future a head of us people. There has been very little information on what the redevelopment of the other stands is actually going to include, im surprised someone hasnt asked at any stage on varying AGM meetings etc or even journalists. Would be good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 There has been very little information on what the redevelopment of the other stands is actually going to include, im surprised someone hasnt asked at any stage on varying AGM meetings etc or even journalists. Would be good to know. Would like to see these seats replaced for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The cladding on the back of the roof of the Roseburn, which most of us rarely see, unless passing behind it on the West Approach Road, has to be addressed too. It looks absolutely awful and needs at least a lick of paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The cladding on the back of the roof of the Roseburn, which most of us rarely see, unless passing behind it on the West Approach Road, has to be addressed too. It looks absolutely awful and needs at least a lick of paint. Pressure washer should do the trick, then a paint job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Looks massive. I guess with the new stand holding over 7000 and will have function suites and large floor space it'll need to be much larger. No mate, the weight of the stand itself, the seats, concrete, the main building with the glass front etc, will all be taken by the foundations. The truss is only there to hang the stand roof from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Would like to see these seats replaced for starters. Regarding the seats and the rear of the Roseburn Stand, these are to do with the sun - it bleaches the seats because it is the only stand in direct sunlight for most of the day, and the back cladding is filthy because it gets no sunlight, doesn't dry as quickly and mosses etc grow far quicker. In both cases it's a bit like painting the Forth Bridge. You can sort it out but it'll never fully go away. I don't think it is economically too clever to replace functioning seats just because they are bleached. I do hope the back of the stand can get a nice jetwash as part of our spruce up though - it'll look much nicer on my commute along the Wester Approach each morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Regarding the seats and the rear of the Roseburn Stand, these are to do with the sun - it bleaches the seats because it is the only stand in direct sunlight for most of the day, and the back cladding is filthy because it gets no sunlight, doesn't dry as quickly and mosses etc grow far quicker. In both cases it's a bit like painting the Forth Bridge. You can sort it out but it'll never fully go away. I don't think it is economically too clever to replace functioning seats just because they are bleached. I do hope the back of the stand can get a nice jetwash as part of our spruce up though - it'll look much nicer on my commute along the Wester Approach each morning! I don't buy the sun fading myth. Why is it only certain seats and some are near the top where there's usually a shadow cast. Were these seats that were replaced because they were broken somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Would like to see these seats replaced for starters. No need to replace. There are various renovation methods available for faded plastic stadium seating. Need to adopt Fade Management Solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I don't buy the sun fading myth. Why is it only certain seats and some are near the top where there's usually a shadow cast. Were these seats that were replaced because they were broken somehow? It's not a myth - it's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Would like to see these seats replaced for starters. Regarding the roseburn stand seats we have replaced the lower tier of seats at the wheatfield side and the main stand side and you can see the difference,little subtle changes makes such a difference IMO. New concourse? New toilets? Better Food Choices? Painting of the other three stand trusses? Subtle changes that'll make a difference,we deserve it we put money into our club and to me not getting all that much in return for that I know we go to football to watch matches and I know we're not the richest club in the world,I want Tynie to be the best it can be along with other Jambos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 No mate, the weight of the stand itself, the seats, concrete, the main building with the glass front etc, will all be taken by the foundations. The truss is only there to hang the stand roof from. This is correct A new steelwork frame is being built out at the rear of the stand to support the new concrete floor slabs, roof and glazed fa?ade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Regarding the roseburn stand seats we have replaced the lower tier of seats at the wheatfield side and the main stand side and you can see the difference,little subtle changes makes such a difference IMO. New concourse? New toilets? Better Food Choices? Painting of the other three stand trusses? Subtle changes that'll make a difference,we deserve it we put money into our club and to me not getting all that much in return for that I know we go to football to watch matches and I know we're not the richest club in the world,I want Tynie to be the best it can be along with other Jambos. Eh? We're getting a new main stand costing ?12m. I sit in the Wheatfield and would appreciate better food choices, re-furbed toilets, coat of paint, etc, however I accept that all the FoH money and other revenues are going to the budget for the new stand. Once complete and paid for, I am sure Budge/FoH will spend some money on tarting up the rest of the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 It's not a myth - it's a fact. Fair enough. Did only some get replaced in the past? Or have ones that been replaced been put in when seats elsewhere in the ground got replaced and the faded ones are the oldest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Eh? We're getting a new main stand costing ?12m. I sit in the Wheatfield and would appreciate better food choices, re-furbed toilets, coat of paint, etc, however I accept that all the FoH money and other revenues are going to the budget for the new stand. Once complete and paid for, I am sure Budge/FoH will spend some money on tarting up the rest of the stadium. Oh yeh I forgot we're getting a new main stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I don't buy the sun fading myth. Why is it only certain seats and some are near the top where there's usually a shadow cast. Were these seats that were replaced because they were broken somehow? I've got to be honest here I thought that the roseburn seats were all mismatched was because the away fans kept breaking them and we just replaced the broken ones with whatever we had lying around. I had no idea that the sun was involved but that's what makes them all discoloured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stephen Muddie Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 That was my thought - but just from looking at that last set of pics, the framework looks like its very much 'within' the truss for want of a better phrase. By the time you extend the next section on to whats there already, I don't see how it'll be able to just be lifted clear of the frame without the frame getting in the way? That said, I don't suppose it would be too much of a job to take the weight of the truss and cut the frames out. The jig will be collapsible I'd guess. Bolt apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibi Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I hope we have security in place on Saturday as it wouldn't surprise me if Lochenders tried to destroy or vandalise the truss. Edited January 19, 2017 by Cesny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 YYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS are these guys dismantling to fill in the corners???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudolfTheKing51 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Does anyone have a link to all the architectural plans? https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=OBFCWAEWHOF00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I've got to be honest here I thought that the roseburn seats were all mismatched was because the away fans kept breaking them and we just replaced the broken ones with whatever we had lying around. I had no idea that the sun was involved but that's what makes them all discoloured. Picked this up on the internet - "Under most circumstances, red fades the fastest of all visible colours. Short wavelength light such as blue and violet has greater energy than lower wavelength light, and red has the longest wavelength of any visible colours. Red objects reflect red light but absorb harmful, energy rich short wavelength light" Maroon is in the red range of colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Be nice to see the Truss supports in white as well. Pink is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudolfTheKing51 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Looking at the sectional view, the front part of the stand will have a 28degree gradient. The top part has the 32 degree gradient. Also it looks like fans can exit from the top and take the stairs all the way down to the bottom. This could avoid alot of queuing inside the stand and make it a bit more like fester road where u party in the stairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Would be nice if they issued a couple of drawings/architects impressions of the completed project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Be nice to see the Truss supports in white as well. Pink is awful. You've nailed it mate who's idea was that maybe they thought it's close to maroon so that'll do. Amateurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolio Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Looking at the sectional view, the front part of the stand will have a 28degree gradient. The top part has the 32 degree gradient. Also it looks like fans can exit from the top and take the stairs all the way down to the bottom. This could avoid alot of queuing inside the stand and make it a bit more like fester road where u party in the stairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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