Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Correction - the weak referee awarded 4 fouls against them in the first half and ignored various others! How about the second half where they hacked, and kicked, and did everything possible to waste time? So what if Robbie went to fetch the ball - did that give McIntyre the excuse to kick it away like some moron?? How about their much vaunted 'goal scorer - he spent the whole game diving about and moaning his tits off to the referee!!! As a Hearts fan their performance made my blood boil - but you bash on giving them as much "credit" as you want. No need to reply - thanks. As our tactics apparently made Celtic and Aberdeen fans blood boil last season, which is very good, obviously a job well done, as the County fans will no doubt feel. That is football, I don't have a problem with that. Prefer to concentrate on what can make Hearts better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Did your family survive the poisonous minutes applause in Aberdeen ok btw?They did thanks. Massive police presence ensured only the Rangers bus was hurt. Rangers fans actually rather cleverly sang Rule Britannia in the eleventh minute, taking all the sting out of it, Aberdeen then applauding one of their favourite ditties, quite clever by their standards. So yes, I got that one wrong, but all the same, an awful lot of poison and bile surrounding Rangers that will inevitably end up in trouble, and someone not remotely interested in causing spite will get injured, as they did at Ibrox a year past January in our own case. Personally I love a feral atmosphere, but as I grow older I begin to appreciate the consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 never seen a worse display of timewasting in my life. They were at it for the whole of the 2nd half and how the referee didn't add on time for it all I have no idea. The goalie was the worst and the ref just ignored it, apart from gesticulating to him over and over again, which made no difference but still no yellow card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 never seen a worse display of timewasting in my life. They were at it for the whole of the 2nd half and how the referee didn't add on time for it all I have no idea. The goalie was the worst and the ref just ignored it, apart from gesticulating to him over and over again, which made no difference but still no yellow cardAch, we have done it ourselves. I remember one match against United in Csabas days when we won 1-0 at Tannadice, I think it was Obua went down, and he actually got a change of gloves to waste time. As unpleasant as it is, absolutely every team will do what it takes. Refs generally don't do an awful lot about it which is frustrating. We got about 5 1/2 added on Saturday which is actually better in normal, in the English Championship i have often seen matches that go into double digits. 1 and 3 seem to be our core numbers. Rarely do they take into account, or at least it seems that way, all the subs and goals. I think the Hamilton match was a good case in point, I think there were 5 subs and 4 goals, 30 secs for each made for at least 4 minutes 30 secs before anything else, I don't think that was played. One of those things that can work for or against, I am honest enough to admit we like to push the rules and so we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcw1874 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I live in the Highlands, there aren't that many goats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 As our tactics apparently made Celtic and Aberdeen fans blood boil last season, which is very good, obviously a job well done, as the County fans will no doubt feel. That is football, I don't have a problem with that. Prefer to concentrate on what can make Hearts better Can't remember Celtic or Aberdeen fans being daft enough to give Hearts "all credit" for doing so though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I live in the Highlands, there aren't that many goats. No the good looking ones are all spoken for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 never seen a worse display of timewasting in my life. They were at it for the whole of the 2nd half and how the referee didn't add on time for it all I have no idea. The goalie was the worst and the ref just ignored it, apart from gesticulating to him over and over again, which made no difference but still no yellow card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Don't think I've ever got upset about an opponents general performance? You do what you want to do to try and win or get a point. Yes, I'll have a whinge at how the referee lets a player get away with time wasting (goalies especially) or persistent fouling but how a team sets up or wants to play is hardly something to get hot and sweaty about. We simply need to be good enough to beat them with our own game, see within the game itself how we need to combat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Don't think I've ever got upset about an opponents general performance? You do what you want to do to try and win or get a point. Yes, I'll have a whinge at how the referee lets a player get away with time wasting (goalies especially) or persistent fouling but how a team sets up or wants to play is hardly something to get hot and sweaty about. We simply need to be good enough to beat them with our own game, see within the game itself how we need to combat it. Bully for you! There were more than a few Hearts fans getting a bit "hot and sweaty" at RC antics on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcw1874 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 No the good looking ones are all spoken for.... They are indeed, been looking for years........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Bully for you! There were more than a few Hearts fans getting a bit "hot and sweaty" at RC antics on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart G Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 As our tactics apparently made Celtic and Aberdeen fans blood boil last season, which is very good, obviously a job well done, as the County fans will no doubt feel. That is football, I don't have a problem with that. Prefer to concentrate on what can make Hearts better I am not sure what Aberdeen fans have to bleat about, they won 2 and lost 3, the 2 at Tynecastle that we won we were nuch the better team, the game we won up there both teams where murder, we just nicked a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I am not sure what Aberdeen fans have to bleat about, they won 2 and lost 3, the 2 at Tynecastle that we won we were nuch the better team, the game we won up there both teams where murder, we just nicked a goal.Our performance in December at Aberdeen and Celtic almost a year to the day was described as physical, negative, gamesmanship etc.The point is every team will try to play like that at some point. To bleat about a team like Ross County doing it is a bit Hibs for my liking. Take your chances it becomes irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertracoon Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I've said it before but a simple rule change would sort out all this "gamesmanship" pish. Simply change the timing rules to become like American sports and only start the clock when the ball is in play. 4th official would actually have something to do all game instead of just annoying the managers. Play for around 30 minutes and any timewasting the goalie tries to do when the ball is out of play counts for nothing. Have a hooter or something and when that goes, the next time the ball goes out the game is finished (unless the team not in possession of the ball commits a foul, in which case play continues). Would likely take a lot of getting used to but at least fans wouldn't have to rely on a "strong" refereeing performance to actually be treated to some football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart G Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Our performance in December at Aberdeen and Celtic almost a year to the day was described as physical, negative, gamesmanship etc. The point is every team will try to play like that at some point. To bleat about a team like Ross County doing it is a bit Hibs for my liking. Take your chances it becomes irrelevant They were both poor, I agree, the game at Parkhead we could have been hammered, we got a point, next time through there we lost but played well, people on here were praising us for having a go even though we got beat and moaning about the way we played in the first game even although we got a point, it's a funny old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 What abuse was he getting? Were you not at the game to hear it yourself?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I've said it before but a simple rule change would sort out all this "gamesmanship" pish. Simply change the timing rules to become like American sports and only start the clock when the ball is in play. 4th official would actually have something to do all game instead of just annoying the managers. Play for around 30 minutes and any timewasting the goalie tries to do when the ball is out of play counts for nothing. Have a hooter or something and when that goes, the next time the ball goes out the game is finished (unless the team not in possession of the ball commits a foul, in which case play continues). Would likely take a lot of getting used to but at least fans wouldn't have to rely on a "strong" refereeing performance to actually be treated to some football. You are absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Can't remember Celtic or Aberdeen fans being daft enough to give Hearts "all credit" for doing so though..... Can't remember the referees being as lenient with us on those occasions. If we had done that at Parkhead there would have been at least double the added time in addition to multiple bookings for time wasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I've said it before but a simple rule change would sort out all this "gamesmanship" pish. Simply change the timing rules to become like American sports and only start the clock when the ball is in play. 4th official would actually have something to do all game instead of just annoying the managers. Play for around 30 minutes and any timewasting the goalie tries to do when the ball is out of play counts for nothing. Have a hooter or something and when that goes, the next time the ball goes out the game is finished (unless the team not in possession of the ball commits a foul, in which case play continues). Would likely take a lot of getting used to but at least fans wouldn't have to rely on a "strong" refereeing performance to actually be treated to some football. Absolutely spot on. As with other things that get on people's tits at football, the solutions are really blindingly obvious but the will to implement changes is lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I've said it before but a simple rule change would sort out all this "gamesmanship" pish. Simply change the timing rules to become like American sports and only start the clock when the ball is in play. 4th official would actually have something to do all game instead of just annoying the managers. Play for around 30 minutes and any timewasting the goalie tries to do when the ball is out of play counts for nothing. Have a hooter or something and when that goes, the next time the ball goes out the game is finished (unless the team not in possession of the ball commits a foul, in which case play continues). Would likely take a lot of getting used to but at least fans wouldn't have to rely on a "strong" refereeing performance to actually be treated to some football. There's the answer right there. Taking timekeeping out of the referee's hands is always my reply whenever there is a "what rule would you change?" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 How long would games last? Was a serious problem in the NFL. Seems fine in rugby. 30 minutes each way and stop the clock every time. I believe the average game time is less than an hour, read it somewhere years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 When Sky used to inform us of the stat the better games had the ball in play for around an hour so yes, 30mins in play in each half. Just for fun I'd also have a 2 yard by 2 yard box in the corner where you can freely kick the shite out of anyone who carries the ball into it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Were you not at the game to hear it yourself?? he got shouted at because he was taken like ages to get of the field ! big deal he should dry his eyes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 he got shouted at because he was taken like ages to get of the field ! big deal he should dry his eyes ! Have to agree with this, was just adding to their timewasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Were you not at the game to hear it yourself?? I was there but as I was over in the wheatfield stand, I did not hear what abuse was said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 I was there but as I was over in the wheatfield stand, I did not hear what abuse was said am in the wheat field stand and I was shouting abuse at him and am quite loud haaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 he got shouted at because he was taken like ages to get of the field ! big deal he should dry his eyes ! he got shouted at because he was taken like ages to get of the field ! big deal he should dry his eyes ! When he finally got on his feet he was given a round of applause by County AND Hearts fans behind the goal - all conveniently forgotten by this idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 When he finally got on his feet he was given a round of applause by County AND Hearts fans behind the goal - all conveniently forgotten by this idiot!Watched the Alba highlights last night. It was a fair old right hook delivered by Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 When he finally got on his feet he was given a round of applause by County AND Hearts fans behind the goal - all conveniently forgotten by this idiot! the guy was milking it crawling off at a snails pace to the halfway line then 10 secs later sprinting back on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 the guy was milking it crawling off at a snails pace to the halfway line then 10 secs later sprinting back on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was taking the piss - first instead of taking 2 steps leave the field over the goal line, he strolls towards the side line, then makes a change of direction and shuffles towards the halfway line - THAT was when he got boo'ed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 He was taking the piss - first instead of taking 2 steps leave the field over the goal line, he strolls towards the side line, then makes a change of direction and shuffles towards the halfway line - THAT was when he got boo'ed!! the worst part the ref was fine with him taking an age !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 But it will be okay if we do it one up on Friday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 But it will be okay if we do it one up on Friday? no one could ever waste as much time as what happened on Saturday it is not what people pay money to see I would rather see a team attack us than get bored to death by watching a team not really trying !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 no one could ever waste as much time as what happened on Saturday it is not what people pay money to see I would rather see a team attack us than get bored to death by watching a team not really trying !!!Modern game Wattie even the big teams do it. No doubt we will sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Modern game Wattie even the big teams do it. No doubt we will sooner or later your right but not to that extent they were at it the whole of the second half and the goalie was at it for 90 mins just rubbish entertainment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 your right but not to that extent they were at it the whole of the second half and the goalie was at it for 90 mins just rubbish entertainmentAll about the money now. 2 decent results on the bounce for County Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 All about the money now. 2 decent results on the bounce for County they were so lucky to get any points out there last two games mind you they only really played 90 mins out of the 2 games as the rest of the time they just done nothing butt waste time and didnt try to play football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 But it will be okay if we do it one up on Friday? If we do we will get a rash of yellow cards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 All about the money now. 2 decent results on the bounce for County I don't give a shit about County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 I don't give a shit about County. like wise the only team that matters to me is Hearts I couldn't give a crap about any other team full stop !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 like wise the only team that matters to me is Hearts I couldn't give a crap about any other team full stop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!And County couldn't or shouldn't give a shit about Hearts which has been my point all along. We need to handle anti football or begin to sound like Hibs fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 And County couldn't or shouldn't give a shit about Hearts which has been my point all along. We need to handle anti football or begin to sound like Hibs fans No, your original point was that you were giving County "All Credit" for their time wasting antics - with respect THAT sounded like a Hibs fan at the wind up on a Hearts fans forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 No, your original point was that you were giving County "All Credit" for their time wasting antics - with respect THAT sounded like a Hibs fan at the wind up on a Hearts fans forum. A Hibs fan. No just acknowledged that they did what they needed to do for themselves and well. Of course it is frustrating for us but that is precisely the point. God awful to watch but we have done it through the years and been pleased with our "professionalism" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 A Hibs fan. No just acknowledged that they did what they needed to do for themselves and well. Of course it is frustrating for us but that is precisely the point. God awful to watch but we have done it through the years and been pleased with our "professionalism" we have never been as bad as what RC were never even close that was 45 mins of boredom from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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