But we kept thousands of low paid bank workers in jobs. Prevented mass negative equity forcing families into the street. Prevented a collapse of spend by government and consumers and it's economic effects... we employed a Keynesian response. A leftist response. Bailout.
We did it with rail, coal, health, iron etc in 1945.
We did it with BMC, Leyland, BA and shipbuilding in the 70s.
We then bailed out finance in the 00s.
Fair trade. Equity in dealings. Debt relief. International development. Are the keys to develop the developing world. To get them up to a better standard. Generally these are aims of the EU atm in it's trade policy.
Where's the evidence of an anti-austerity theme in the UK bar Corbyn? Where's the political leadership in Brexit not arguing "within our means"?
Brexit makes us poorer. Not richer. Insular. Less international. It's a retreat not an advance.
Indeed it is. As an internationalist i believe if we develop the institutions where nations can come together to debate, trade, discuss and build a better world then there's less suffering. Less needless starvation and poverty and more prosperity and more for all.
It's optimistic and ambitious. But it's in part what the EU does for Europe. Perhaps if we pushed a stronger UN, African Union etc across the globe we'd see more good and unity and less bad and division.
No we really haven't.
These banks we have bailed out are continually cheapening their labour costs but rarely cutting bonuses.
The other industries you say we financed was at the time beneficial to the many and not the few.
Do you really believe the motive was anything other than to protect the already powerful?
Look jambo i kinda am on the same side as you i just am really cynical.
Think we will never agree on the best way forward.
I would like the break up of both unions europe and uk.
We end up going round in circles .
At least it hasnt ended abusively.
Right now for me the conflict in Syria has the potential to overshadow all our worries.