tartofmidlothian Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It's next Tuesday in the Irn Bru Cup, but I'm bumping this early because it's a unique game. A competitive one, obviously, so does this count as a first team debut for the lads who will be playing? Who will be in our team and how do we think they'll do? Are Albion still really awful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It's next Tuesday in the Irn Bru Cup, but I'm bumping this early because it's a unique game. A competitive one, obviously, so does this count as a first team debut for the lads who will be playing? Who will be in our team and how do we think they'll do? Are Albion still really awful? Hardly anyone left there all out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hardly anyone left there all out on loan. Steady. I think Lewis Moore is the only u20 out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'm assuming if we play a 19 year old for the U20's, he will be ineligible for the first team in the League Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillicoultry Hearts Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Will be heading along to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hearts Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Like U20 league games will we be allowed to play 4/5 over aged senior players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I'm assuming if we play a 19 year old for the U20's, he will be ineligible for the first team in the League Cup.Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Like U20 league games will we be allowed to play 4/5 over aged senior players?Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Why? I got mixed up with the Petrofac and League Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I don't hold out much hope for the youngsters. The side will likely be weakened by Aaron Reid, Andy Irving and Anthony McDonald all having been called up for Scotland U17 duty for a tournament in Serbia. There is also a question mark over the involvement of Jamie Brandon after he was sent off in a "friendly" at Kelty. If it was reported as violent conduct by the ref then he could be facing a two game ban. Of the first team squad, only Zanatta and Godinho are eligible. Whether or not they are allowed to play is a different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Not sure why the welsh and irish sides get to jump in later on? Part of the purpose of this competition is to set up cross border matches....... Massive prize for winning of ?17 grand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I don't hold out much hope for the youngsters. The side will likely be weakened by Aaron Reid, Andy Irving and Anthony McDonald all having been called up for Scotland U17 duty for a tournament in Serbia. There is also a question mark over the involvement of Jamie Brandon after he was sent off in a "friendly" at Kelty. If it was reported as violent conduct by the ref then he could be facing a two game ban. Of the first team squad, only Zanatta and Godinho are eligible. Whether or not they are allowed to play is a different question. I dont see why Dario and Marcus wouldnt be allowed to play to be honest. I think it will be men against boys for the most part and can see the cup winners being non scottish given the leg up they are getting. No extra cash if your game is on the telly either......another superb bit of negotiation by donkeycaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Like U20 league games will we be allowed to play 4/5 over aged senior players? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Is this an under 20s cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Is this an under 20s cup?No. Its the revamped petrofac but this season the top flight u20s plus some highland lowland welsh and northern irish league teams are involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Steady. I think Lewis Moore is the only u20 out on loan. Todorov too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Todorov too? He is ineligible for the U20s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 He is ineligible for the U20s Ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 The game is a 'First XI' game for Stirling but an under 20s for Hearts. It is in the same category as reserve games during WWII in the North Eastern Division and North Eastern League Cup e.g. In 1945 Aberdeen won the North Eastern League CupHearts A got to the FinalSat 19-May-1945 R1-L1 Heart of Midlothian A 3 0 DundeeSat 26-May-1945 R1-L2 Dundee 3 2 Heart of Midlothian A agg 3-5Sat 09-Jun-1945 SF-L1 Heart of Midlothian A 1 2 Rangers ASat 16-Jun-1945 SF-L2 Rangers A 0 2 Heart of Midlothian A agg 2-3Sat 23-Jun-1945 F-L1 Aberdeen 3 3 Heart of Midlothian ASat 30-Jun-1945 F-L2 Heart of Midlothian A 0 1 Aberdeen agg 3-4 Aberdeen games count as First XI Hearts do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambali Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Not sure why the welsh and irish sides get to jump in later on? Part of the purpose of this competition is to set up cross border matches....... Massive prize for winning of ?17 grand! Well - it IS under 20....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Hope to feck Stirling Albion aren't as good as Kelty Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Hope to feck Stirling Albion aren't as good as Kelty Hearts. The Beanos might do alright this season. Made one or two decent signings - Blair Henderson has hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Looking forward to seeing how we do. Good experience for them and could have slight financial benefits for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Looking forward to seeing how we do. Good experience for them and could have slight financial benefits for the club.There are no financial benefits to this cup. ?780 worth of strathmore bottled water from Barrs and a ?4k travel allowance if we play outwith scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 There are no financial benefits to this cup. ?780 worth of strathmore bottled water from Barrs and a ?4k travel allowance if we play outwith scotland. Surely we still get 50% of gate receipts plus prize money if we progress? Might be talking only a few thousand for each but that could cover a few players wages for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Surely we still get 50% of gate receipts plus prize money if we progress? Might be talking only a few thousand for each but that could cover a few players wages for a week. Hardly a moneyspinner like the cup replay though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Hardly a moneyspinner like the cup replay though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Genuinely think this will be a tough night for the Wee Jambos. Albion have made a good start to the league cup sitting 2nd in a group with St Johnstone & Falkirk and could go through with a positive result today against Saints. Wouldn't surprise me if they put a few past our youngsters on tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Genuinely think this will be a tough night for the Wee Jambos. Albion have made a good start to the league cup sitting 2nd in a group with St Johnstone & Falkirk and could go through with a positive result today against Saints. Wouldn't surprise me if they put a few past our youngsters on tuesdayI totally agree. A real men v boys match with our lads given a real hard lesson. Not convinced by this new format at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I totally agree. A real men v boys match with our lads given a real hard lesson. Not convinced by this new format at all. Neither am I seems a strange set up especially bringing in the Welsh & Irish sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Neither am I seems a strange set up especially bringing in the Welsh & Irish sides It's something different. It's fresh. No harm in experimenting with the format and teams. I think it's good and positive. If it doesn't work what harm will have been done? Nothing ventured nothing gained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 It's something different. It's fresh. No harm in experimenting with the format and teams. I think it's good and positive. If it doesn't work what harm will have been done? Nothing ventured nothing gained. I agree its fresh and I'm all for change in the game if its good for our game. I don't see why they couldn't open it up to more Lowland & Highland League sides and maybe Juniors too, would've created more excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 It's something different. It's fresh. No harm in experimenting with the format and teams. I think it's good and positive. If it doesn't work what harm will have been done? Nothing ventured nothing gained. U20s teams will struggle in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Are fans of the supposed big clubs really going to turn out for this? Obviously Rangers had big crowds last season but would they have had had it been their U20s? Also, IF we got to the final would we bother going? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have gone had we reached the final during our Championship season. Also, I see that Celtic's game v Annan (?) is on tv in midweek. Yet more money thrown at the OF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Are fans of the supposed big clubs really going to turn out for this? Obviously Rangers had big crowds last season but would they have had had it been their U20s? Also, IF we got to the final would we bother going? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have gone had we reached the final during our Championship season. Also, I see that Celtic's game v Annan (?) is on tv in midweek. Yet more money thrown at the OF! No extra for televised matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 The ticket prices are surely an incentive: Adults & Concessions (OAPs/Students) - ?5 Under 16s - ?2 Under 12s ? Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 <p> The ticket prices are surely an incentive: Adults & Concessions (OAPs/Students) - ?5 Under 16s - ?2 Under 12s ? Free Excellent prices indeed and 6 minutes drive from my house!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 How many rounds until our under 20s could potentially play Hibs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Bump for tomoz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Cuore Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Cheers, heading along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I'm guessing that Aaron Reid and Andy Irving may have been pulled out of the Scotland U17 squad currently playing in Hungary, so may be available to play on Tuesday. I say that after seeing a photo of the Scots starting line-up for today's game which they won 2-1 against Serbia. There is no sign of Reid or Irving, but Chris Hamilton (No. 13) is there, so must have been a late replacement. The Scots lost their opening game to Hungary 5-1. They now play the Czech Republic on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I'm hoping its as good a squad as we can squeeze out but feel the binos will just be too strong for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john brownlee Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I'm guessing that Aaron Reid and Andy Irving may have been pulled out of the Scotland U17 squad currently playing in Hungary, so may be available to play on Tuesday. I say that after seeing a photo of the Scots starting line-up for today's game which they won 2-1 against Serbia. There is no sign of Reid or Irving, but Chris Hamilton (No. 13) is there, so must have been a late replacement. The Scots lost their opening game to Hungary 5-1. They now play the Czech Republic on Wednesday. the front row look as if they are about to keek Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie's Boyfriend Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 the front row look as if they are about to keek Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Who needs chairs...Shocking photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Who needs chairs...Shocking photoHardly shocking. Quick photo taken before a match, nothing more nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Hardly shocking. Quick photo taken before a match, nothing more nothing less. Was thinking that myself. Let's get the chairs and selfie sticks out a minute beofre the match is going to start lol........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart G Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Stirling 11/8 on Sky Bet,that is a very tempting price, under 20s are 13/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Stirling 11/8 on Sky Bet,that is a very tempting price, under 20s are 13/8. Some good prices for senior teams. Difficult to call at this stage of the season though. I've gone:- STIRLING v Hearts u20 CLYDE v Partick u20 Inverness u20 v ARBROATH Ross County u20 v BRORA Pays 78/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Some good prices for senior teams. Difficult to call at this stage of the season though. I've gone:- STIRLING v Hearts u20 CLYDE v Partick u20 Inverness u20 v ARBROATH Ross County u20 v BRORA Pays 78/1 Forgot to add QUEENS PARK v Killie u20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Anyone else heading along tonight? I've had a wee look at their squad and dont see many recognisable names, but I do think the gap between our 17 to 19 year olds and grown men may be too much. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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