glastonbury jambo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 We need a change ... that was nearly as bad as england. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybathgate Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Settle petal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Watching Hearts should be enjoyable. Neilson is the fun sponge. But sadly I think we are stuck with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 We need a change ... that was nearly as bad as england. Oh, England again? Shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Ist game ist Robbie oft thread. What a place kickback is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 We were bottom of the form league at the end of last season and it's just not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 We need a change ... that was nearly as bad as england. C N S incarnate do us a favour ban yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Signed. Signed it midway through last season tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 We were bottom of the form league at the end of last season and it's just not working. What is the prize money for finishing first in the Form League? Is it equal to or higher than the prize money for finishing 3rd in the league? Understand the point your trying to make but form over a season comes in ebs and flows and when all is said and done its your league position that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 These threads don't look that silly now. Maybe it's my own fault for believing we might be on the verge of a bold new era. There's nothing bold about Neilson or this Hearts team. He should be sacked if we get knocked out next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 These threads don't look that silly now. Maybe it's my own fault for believing we might be on the verge of a bold new era. There's nothing bold about Neilson or this Hearts team. He should be sacked if we get knocked out next week. Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Robbie seemingly done his homework on Infonet. I reckon that homework was "nightlife in Tallinn". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 They were far quicker than us so I expect we will not see round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Levein has far to much influence, until.he goes it doesn't matter who you bring in. But make no mistake we go out next week it will be Neilson who pays the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Neilson is taking us nowhere , we should take the right decision for the good of the club , he is way out of his depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Levein has far to much influence, until.he goes it doesn't matter who you bring in. But make no mistake we go out next week it will be Neilson who pays the price. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 The fact he thought we only needed 3 players in at this stage is ridiculous we are lacking a left footed winger and creative midfielder as everyone identified last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockmac Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Robbie fan club is very quiet tonight, it's slowly starting to dawn on them he isn't the man to take Hearts forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 He should never have been appointed but he has two decent seasons behind him, certainly results wise if not entertainment wise. There are only a handful of actual shockers on his cv, but unfortunately the biggest was against Hibs in the cup and I seriously don't believe we have recovered from that in terms of togetherness etc etc. It was genuinely unforgivable, especially given where the cup went after it. Tonight was bad. Really REALLY bad and it's almost totally due to his pedestrian careful risk averse way of playing. If we go out to this team it's bordering on beating the Hibs cup exit for sheer embarrassing disaster levels and he should be sacked but probably won't be. Anyhoo. This is probably best left as a debate until the second leg. I doubt he's going anywhere before that game, but he's walking the plank for me if we go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 It's often underestimated but the influence of a true leader, a man players really want to play for is huge in football. Not sure we have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Robbie fan club is very quiet tonight, it's slowly starting to dawn on them he isn't the man to take Hearts forward. Indeed, the blinkers are off, I also agree about Levein having too much influence on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Tonight was **** all to do with Robbie's tactics. It's not Robbie that tells the players not to stand in any space, make anything that resembles a run, or pass the ball to absolutely nobody. The fault lies with the players, who looked like they didn't know what they were doing tonight. Vast improvement needed next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Robbie fan club is very quiet tonight, it's slowly starting to dawn on them he isn't the man to take Hearts forward. Hopefully all the in house bickering can stop now. There's no shame in realising that they were wrong. We all wanted him to come good but it's crystal clear even to his most ardent fans he's out of his depth. He may well become a competent manager but Hearts is too big and a far too important club to continue with this experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Mugabe Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 A Championship level manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Tonight was **** all to do with Robbie's tactics. It's not Robbie that tells the players not to stand in any space, make anything that resembles a run, or pass the ball to absolutely nobody. The fault lies with the players, who looked like they didn't know what they were doing tonight. Vast improvement needed next week. Utter nonsense. He's not been able to organise or motivate the same group of players for months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Indeed, the blinkers are off, I also agree about Levein having too much influence on the team.Levein isn't going anywhere. Let's get that right off the table because it's not going to happen. Not whilst Ann Budge owns the club.If we bin Neilson, and it took a big step closer tonight IMO, Levein has to appoint a finished article. One who can be left to get on with it and will insist on being left to get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Tonight was **** all to do with Robbie's tactics. It's not Robbie that tells the players not to stand in any space, make anything that resembles a run, or pass the ball to absolutely nobody. The fault lies with the players, who looked like they didn't know what they were doing tonight. Vast improvement needed next week. If the players didn't know what they were doing surely that's neilson fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Tonight was **** all to do with Robbie's tactics. It's not Robbie that tells the players not to stand in any space, make anything that resembles a run, or pass the ball to absolutely nobody. The fault lies with the players, who looked like they didn't know what they were doing tonight. Vast improvement needed next week. Words fail me. Not Robbies fault yet the players looked like they didn't know what they were doing? You're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Tonight was **** all to do with Robbie's tactics. It's not Robbie that tells the players not to stand in any space, make anything that resembles a run, or pass the ball to absolutely nobody. The fault lies with the players, who looked like they didn't know what they were doing tonight. Vast improvement needed next week. That was the excuses given last season.....it is the players fault. Is Robbie not getting his message across most weeks not a worry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo 2k9 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Robbie is a brilliant young manager! Can't believe what I'm reading! It was only a couple of years ago we nearly went under and now we have EUROPEAN football! We are in a great position right now, selling out each week, and have a CLUB TO SUPPORT! In Robbie, Craig and Ann I trust. (to take Hearts to the top HHGH!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Levein isn't going anywhere. Let's get that right off the table because it's not going to happen. Not whilst Ann Budge owns the club. If we bin Neilson, and it took a big step closer tonight IMO, Levein has to appoint a finished article. One who can be left to get on with it and will insist on being left to get on with it. Seriously doubt that. Levein won't want challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Tonight was **** all to do with Robbie's tactics. It's not Robbie that tells the players not to stand in any space, make anything that resembles a run, or pass the ball to absolutely nobody. The fault lies with the players, who looked like they didn't know what they were doing tonight. Vast improvement needed next week. Sorry but that's not right. Our team under Neilson is and has been devoid of their own ideas and forbidden to improvise outwith the strict confines of what we laughingly call 'the system' You can point the finger at the odd player having a bad game or opting out or just being shite. When it's the whole team you can only point the finger at one person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartyharry2012 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 The football under Robbie is a Z fest. Time for change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Robbie is a brilliant young manager! Can't believe what I'm reading! It was only a couple of years ago we nearly went under and now we have EUROPEAN football! We are in a great position right now, selling out each week, and have a CLUB TO SUPPORT! In Robbie, Craig and Ann I trust. (to take Hearts to the top HHGH!) Brilliant. Sniffing lighter fuel has made a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Woah, not intentionally trying to troll. I genuinely think that the players should know better than to stand around doing **** all. The manager, ultimately, doesn't stand in the 10 outfield positions and hang around with his thumb up his arse. Whether or not you think the manager is clueless, it's not entirely his fault - the players have to take some of the buck. If someone was instructing me in a game of football, to stand in totally useless positions and do nothing, I would definitely ignore that and do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 You might well be right with the "not allowed to improvise" sentiment, but I would seriously hope that players would act otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim490 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Robbie seemingly done his homework on Infonet. I reckon that homework was "nightlife in Tallinn". This seems to be the mangers problem. Why worry about a pub team, why not just have a go. We were so pedestrian in the first 20 minutes it was shameful. Losing faith in Neilson and starting to fall into line with many others and think a change may soon be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Seriously doubt that. Levein won't want challenged. He also won't want to be embarrassed or have his decision making processes for appointments questioned. He can't keep getting that appointment wrong or the fingers will start to point at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Im deflated. In 1980 a journalist told Stoke manager Alan Durban that there was no entertainment watching his team's performance, to which Durban replied "If you want entertainment go and watch a bunch of clowns." Durban went onto manage..errr. um... Football is both an entertainment business and a result driven one. The football we are playing is eyebleeding and unsustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Too esrly ti judge this season. Need to improve over the next few weeks/months. I thought Many olayers msde many mistakes. Not much the cosch can do about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Many years ago someone ( can't remember who) said that a team is the reflection of the manager , it's probably true , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Watching Hearts should be enjoyable. Neilson is the fun sponge. But sadly I think we are stuck with him. A fun sponge is money well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Many years ago someone ( can't remember who) said that a team is the reflection of the manager , it's probably true , Pretty sure Ryan Giggs said it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo 2k9 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Brilliant. Sniffing lighter fuel has made a comeback. Sorry but I don't think you need to launch a personal attack because I stick up for the team I support! When the club nearly went to the wall I had a tear in my eye, and tonight as the lads ran out of the tunnel those tears re appeared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Thank **** we didn't lose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibi Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Wasn't there tonight but surely it wasnae as bad as the consensus on here? Or were Tallin just utter pish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim490 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Neilson is a product of the coaching badge, tick box culture. What you really need for a manger is a motivator and someone blessed with man management skills. I honestly don't think you need someone who just tries to outthink your opposition. The manger is lacking where it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Sorry but I don't think you need to launch a personal attack because I stick up for the team I support! When the club nearly went to the wall I had a tear in my eye, and tonight as the lads ran out of the tunnel those tears re appeared! Don't see too much wrong with what you had to say, but I would argue that we are better than narrowly scraping through the first round of a Europa League qualifier. Onwards and upwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo 2k9 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Neilson is a product of the coaching badge, tick box culture. What you really need for a manger is a motivator and someone blessed with man management skills. I honestly don't think you need someone who just tries to outthink your opposition. The manger is lacking where it matters. The players get to call him Robbie though so I don't think man management is an issue they must all get along well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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