******The Official EUROPEAN ( merged ) Thread******

[Jammy T]

West Ham would be great at that stage.

 

And not entirely a dead rubber (IMO).

[SE16 3LN]

I look forward to crushing those tax thieving b******* from the Westfield shopping mall

[Footballfirst]

Hibernians of Malta please.

[scott herbertson]

Have our potential opponents been made up by throwing down lots of scrabble letters and seeing how they end up - one of the few I recognise is Hibernians FC (Malta)  - that would be fun

[alicante jambo]

Hibernians or europa fc just down the road.

[...a bit disco]

Hibernians of Malta please.

 

Very much this.

[SUTOL]

Europa FC,  Gib. 

Or a welsh team 1st round.

[peter_hmfc]

Why do people rewrite or copy the whole list of the teams we could play when they could just post the link to the site they got it from?

 

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2016.html

[MarkDonaldson]

Scottish representatives in UEFA Europa League 2016/17
(Full details via http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2016.html)

 

To sum up...

 

- Hearts will be seeded in 1st qualifying round and 2nd qualifying round (if we get through).

- Hibs will be unseeded in the 2Q but seeded in the 3Q if they win in 2Q (details below)

- Aberdeen will be seeded in 1st qualifying round, unseeded in 2Q but seeded in the 3Q if they win in 2Q!!
 

 

UEL 1Q

 

Hearts (6.460) will be seeded and will face one of the following teams?
(BOLD MEANS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THAT COUNTRY NOT KNOWN YET)

 

* TBD
* TBD
Ordabasy Shymkent        Kaz   3.575

CS Fola Esch             Lux   3.550

Cliftonville             Nir   3.400

Rudar Pljevlja           Mon   3.225

HB Torshavn              Far   3.225

Chikhura Sachkhere       Geo   3.125

EL13                     SLO   3.125 - 3.375

Shirak Gyumri            Arm   3.075

Buducnost Podgorica      Mon   2.975

Kapaz Ganja              Azb   2.975

Birkirkara               Mlt   2.966

Shkendija Tetovo         Mac   2.950

V?kingur                 Far   2.725

MTK Budapest             Hun   2.475

Hibernians FC            Mlt   2.466

Spartak Myjava           Svk   2.400

Suduva Marijampole       Lit   2.175

RoPS Rovaniemi           Fin   1.980

FK Jelgava               Lat   1.825

Teuta Durr?s             Alb   1.825

Valur Reykjavik          Isl   1.750

IFK Mariehamn            Fin   1.730

FC Lusitanos             And   1.699

Atlantas Klaipeda        Lit   1.675

Samtredia                Geo   1.625

Spartaks Jurmala         Lat   1.575

Partizani Tirana         Alb   1.575

Banants Yerevan          Arm   1.575

NSI Runavik              Far   1.475

FK Trakai                Lit   1.425

Radnik Bijeljina         Bos   1.425

Sloboda Tuzla            Bos   1.425

Glenavon                 Nir   1.400

Cork City                Irl   1.340

EL1                      SMA   1.316

Bala Town                Wal   1.200

Sileks Kratovo           Mac   1.200

UE Santa Coloma          And   1.199

EL13                     LUX   1.050 - 2.050

Bokelj Kotor             Mon   0.975

Balzan FC                Mlt   0.966

Infonet Tallinn          Est   0.850

Folgore                  Sma   0.816

Llandudno FC             Wal   0.700

Connah's Quay            Wal   0.700

Europa FC                Gib   0.200

Prishtina or Drita (Sat) Kos   0.000

 

Two of these four below will be seeded and not eligible to face Hearts while the other two will be unseeded and could face Hearts. If Milsami (5.075) beats Zaria in the Moldovan Cup Final on Wednesday then they?ll be seeded.

 

FC Beroe Stara Zagora    Bul   3.625
NK Domzale               Slo   3.625
EL23                     BUL   2.625 - 4.375
Zaria or Milsami (Wed)   Mol   1.825 - 5.075

 

 

UEL 2Q

 

If Hearts (6.460) win in 1Q they will definitely be seeded and will face one of the following teams (assuming all seeded teams come through 1Q)?

 

* TBD

* TBD

* TBD

KR Reykjavik *           Isl   5.750

Dila Gori *              Geo   5.625

Odd Grenland *           Nor   5.350

Gabala FK *              Azb   5.225

Rabotnicki Skopje *      Mac   5.200

EL3                      ROM   5.076

Piast Gliwice            Pol   5.000

FC Vaduz *               Lie   4.850

Kairat Almaty *          Kaz   4.825

Differdange 03 *         Lux   4.800

Shamrock Rovers *        Irl   4.590

St. Patrick's Athletic * Irl   4.590

Zaglebie Lubin *         Pol   4.500

Cracovia Krak?w *        Pol   4.500

Linfield Belfast *       Nir   4.400

Torpedo Zhodino          Bls   4.250

Beitar Jerusalem *       Isr   4.225

Stab?k IF *              Nor   4.100

FK Kuk?si *              Alb   4.075

Cukaricki Belgrade *     Srb   3.925

Levadia Tallinn *        Est   3.850

Kalju Nomme *            Est   3.850

Pyunik Yerevan *         Arm   3.825

Zimbru Chisinau *        Mol   3.825

Breidablik *             Isl   3.750

S?nderjyskE (*)          Den   3.720

Siroki Brijeg *          Bos   3.675

EL1                      BUL   2.625 - 4.375

 

Hibs (3.960) and Aberdeen (5.460) will be unseeded ? they?ll face one of the following teams (assuming all seeded teams come through 1Q)?

 

* TBD

NK Maribor *             Slo  21.625             

Maccabi Tel-Aviv (*)     Isr  20.225            

Austria Wien             Aut  19.020

Partizan Belgrade        Srb  16.925
Maccabi Haifa (*)        Isr  11.725              

HJK Helsinki *           Fin  10.980             

Hajduk Split             Cro  10.775             

EL123                    DEN  10.220 - 14.720    

Dinamo Minsk *           Bls  10.000             

Omonia Nicosia *         Cyp   9.935             

Neftchi Baku *           Azb   9.725             

AEK Larnaca *            Cyp   9.435             

AIK Stockholm *          Swe   8.975             

Slovan Bratislava *      Svk   8.900             

EL3                      SUI   8.755 - 16.255    

Videoton Feh?rv?r *      Hun   8.725             

FK Aktobe *              Kaz   8.075             

EL3                      BEL   8.000 - 36.000    

Vojvodina Novi Sad *     Srb   7.925             

Str?msgodset IF          Nor   7.850             

Shakhtior Saligorsk *    Bls   7.500             

Spartak Trnava *         Svk   7.400             

EL123 (*)                DEN   7.220 - 10.220    

Osmanlispor              Tur   6.920             

Slavia Praha             Cze   6.585             

IFK G?teborg *           Swe   6.475             

DVSC Debrecen *          Hun   6.475             

FK Ventspils *           Lat   6.075             

Admira Wacker *          Aut   6.020             

BK H?cken                Swe   5.975             

EL3                      GRE   5.940 - 37.440                                                     

Three of these will be unseeded and could face Hearts while one of them will be seeded and could face Hibs or Aberdeen?

 

Lokomotiva Zagreb *      Cro   5.775
EL2 *                    Mol   4.325 - 10.575
EL-QR1 *                       3.625 - 5.075
EL-QR1 *                       3.625 - 4.375

 

 

UEL 3Q

 

If Hearts (6.460) win in 2Q they will be unseeded and will face one of the following teams (assuming all seeded teams come through 1Q and 2Q)?
 

* TBD

* TBD

* TBD

* TBD

* TBD

AZ Alkmaar               Ned  43.612

Lille OSC                Fra  29.549

AS Saint-?tienne         Fra  26.049

AA Gent                  Bel  25.000

FK Krasnodar             Rus  24.216

Rapid Wien               Aut  23.520

Slovan Liberec           Cze  22.085          

NK Maribor *             Slo  21.625             

Maccabi Tel-Aviv */**    Isr  20.225             

Spartak Moscow           Rus  19.216              
Austria Wien **          Aut  19.020             

Partizan Belgrade **     Srb  16.925             

West Ham United          Eng  16.256             

Hertha BSC               Ger  16.035             

EL1                      Gre  14.940 - 37.440    

NK Rijeka                Cro  14.275             

Sassuolo                 Ita  14.087             

Rio Ave                  Por  13.616             

Vorskla Poltava          Ukr  11.976             

Maccabi Haifa */**       Isr  11.725             

HJK Helsinki *           Fin  10.980             

Hajduk Split **          Cro  10.775             

FC Arouca                Por  10.616             

Apollon Limassol         Cyp  10.435             

 

Five of the following will be seeded, therefore possible opponents for Hearts?
 

EL123 **                 DEN  10.220 - 14.720

Mlad? Boleslav           Cze  10.085

Dinamo Minsk *           Bls  10.000

Omonia Nicosia *         Cyp   9.935

EL23 (**)                SUI   9.755 - 16.255

EL3 **                   BEL   8.000 - 36.000

EL2                      GRE   7.940 - 14.940

EL123 */**               DEN   7.220 - 10.220

EL-QR2 **                      5.775 - 10.575

 

If Hibs (3.960) and/or Aberdeen (5.460) beat their seeded opponent in 2Q they?ll be seeded in 3Q because they?ll effectively take the coefficient of their opponent. (This is because the draw for UEL 3Q is made before the results of 2Q are known.) Hibs/Aberdeen would then face one of the following teams?

 

Neftchi Baku *           Azb   9.725

AEK Larnaca *            Cyp   9.435

FC Oleksandriya          Ukr   8.976

AIK Stockholm *          Swe   8.975

Slovan Bratislava *      Svk   8.900

FC Luzern (**)           Sui   8.755

Videoton Feh?rv?r *      Hun   8.725

FK Aktobe *              Kaz   8.075

Vojvodina Novi Sad *     Srb   7.925

Istanbul Basaksehir      Tur   7.920

Str?msgodset IF **       Nor   7.850

Shakhtior Saligorsk *    Bls   7.500

Spartak Trnava *         Svk   7.400

Heracles Almelo          Ned   7.112

Pandurii T?rgu Jiu       Rom   7.076

Osmanlispor **           Tur   6.920

Slavia Praha **          Cze   6.585

IFK G?teborg *           Swe   6.475

DVSC Debrecen *          Hun   6.475

FK Ventspils *           Lat   6.075

Admira Wacker *          Aut   6.020

BK H?cken **             Swe   5.975

EL3 **                   GRE   5.940 -  7.940

Viitorul Constanta       Rom   5.076

 

Four of the following will be unseeded, therefore possible opponents for Hibs/Aberdeen?

 

EL123 **                 DEN  10.220 - 14.720

Mlad? Boleslav           Cze  10.085

Dinamo Minsk *           Bls  10.000

Omonia Nicosia *         Cyp   9.935

EL23 (**)                SUI   9.755 - 16.255

EL3 **                   BEL   8.000 - 36.000

EL2                      GRE   7.940 - 14.940

EL123 */**               DEN   7.220 - 10.220

EL-QR2 **                      5.775 - 10.575

[Thought Police]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-seeded-in-europa-league-openers-but-hibs-miss-out-1-4135875

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-seeded-in-europa-league-openers-but-hibs-miss-out-1-4135875

 

Aberdeen below us in the coefficient as well as the Kung Fu Fighters

 

 

[Diego10]

Works in their favour if they can get through round 2 though, as they then take on the seeded teams coefficient for round 3. Ironically having a lower seeding probably improves their chances of making the playoff round.

[The jj era]

Love the sound of Budapest! Absolutely love the city so any excuse to go back

[Hearts007]

Amongst the teams Hearts and Aberdeen could draw are MTK Budapest of Hungary ? who currently employ former Hearts manager Csaba Laszlo as sports director ? Banants Yerevan from Armenia and the Irish club Cork City.

 

[IveSeenTheLight]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-seeded-in-europa-league-openers-but-hibs-miss-out-1-4135875

 

Aberdeen below us in the coefficient as well as the Kung Fu Fighters

 

 

 

Problem is, your seeded to go down in the co-efficients for next season.

 

If we both get to the same stage (realistically QR3), then we will have the higher co-efficient as a result of the 2011/12 season (2.05 points) no longer being counted.

Then the year after, you'll be replacing the 2012/13 (2.36 points)

 

Meanwhile, we are replacing 0.55 and 0.86 points

 

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

[IveSeenTheLight]

Works in their favour if they can get through round 2 though, as they then take on the seeded teams coefficient for round 3. Ironically having a lower seeding probably improves their chances of making the playoff round.

 

Only if you draw a high enough seeded team in QR2 and then beat them.

We beat Rijeka last season to be seeded in QR3, but the previous season, we beat Groningen, who were seeded, but not high enough to be seeded in QR3 and we drew Real Sociedad

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Problem is, your seeded to go down in the co-efficients for next season.

 

If we both get to the same stage (realistically QR3), then we will have the higher co-efficient as a result of the 2011/12 season (2.05 points) no longer being counted.

Then the year after, you'll be replacing the 2012/13 (2.36 points)

 

Meanwhile, we are replacing 0.55 and 0.86 points

 

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

Don't fuss won't affect you next season

[DC_92]

It's been pointed out several times that being unseeded in R2 could have led to being seeded in R3 were we to knock out one of the bigger fishes, but what about the other side of that coin? Being definitely unseeded in R3 gives the possibility of facing a small team who managed to knock out one of the better teams, which doesn't strike me as being much less likely than the first scenario.

 

I can't remember if we were the seeded team, but in 2011 we drew Tromso/Paksi. Paksi surprisingly beat Tromso, giving us an easy path into the final qualifying round.

[peter_hmfc]

It's been pointed out several times that being unseeded in R2 could have led to being seeded in R3 were we to knock out one of the bigger fishes, but what about the other side of that coin? Being definitely unseeded in R3 gives the possibility of facing a small team who managed to knock out one of the better teams, which doesn't strike me as being much less likely than the first scenario.

 

I can't remember if we were the seeded team, but in 2011 we drew Tromso/Paksi. Paksi surprisingly beat Tromso, giving us an easy path into the final qualifying round.

 

[IveSeenTheLight]

Don't fuss won't affect you next season

 

LOL, nice quip, but we'll see what foundation and who is affected next season.

Out of interest, who do you think will be the 4 qualifiers for Europe next season?

 

No getting away from the fact that if you qualify next year, your realistically will have a lower co-efficient than this year and even lower the following year.

 

What we need really is consistent qualifications by the top teams in Scotland to boost our individual co-efficient and the assiciations

[Ferryjambo99]

It's been pointed out several times that being unseeded in R2 could have led to being seeded in R3 were we to knock out one of the bigger fishes, but what about the other side of that coin? Being definitely unseeded in R3 gives the possibility of facing a small team who managed to knock out one of the better teams, which doesn't strike me as being much less likely than the first scenario.

 

I can't remember if we were the seeded team, but in 2011 we drew Tromso/Paksi. Paksi surprisingly beat Tromso, giving us an easy path into the final qualifying round.

That's interesting. Wouldn't want to draw tromso given how far north they are

[Ferryjambo99]

LOL, nice quip, but we'll see what foundation and who is affected next season.

Out of interest, who do you think will be the 4 qualifiers for Europe next season?

 

No getting away from the fact that if you qualify next year, your realistically will have a lower co-efficient than this year and even lower the following year.

 

What we need really is consistent qualifications by the top teams in Scotland to boost our individual co-efficient and the assiciations

I agree. We need all the scottish teams to do well, hibs probably won't but aberdeen, hearts and as much as it pains me, celtic have to do well. We've gone from having automatic places in group stages to fighting through all the qualifying rounds and that really needs to change

[cheetah]

I look forward to crushing those tax thieving b******* from the Westfield shopping mall

 

 

Grandad Grandad give us a song...

 

**** em all  

[Cade]

Let's get tore intae the Maltese Hibs

 

[Daveandal]

LOL, nice quip, but we'll see what foundation and who is affected next season.

Out of interest, who do you think will be the 4 qualifiers for Europe next season?

 

No getting away from the fact that if you qualify next year, your realistically will have a lower co-efficient than this year and even lower the following year.

 

What we need really is consistent qualifications by the top teams in Scotland to boost our individual co-efficient and the assiciations

Celtic, Hearts, Aberdeen and whoever wins the cup...... St Johnstone maybe?

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Celtic, Hearts, Aberdeen and whoever wins the cup...... St Johnstone maybe?

 

This.  Seems like another year for a smaller club taking the cup, just on a hunch.  Wouldn't be shocked to see Dundee or Motherwell getting a turn at Hampden either.

[Daveandal]

This. Seems like another year for a smaller club taking the cup, just on a hunch. Wouldn't be shocked to see Dundee or Motherwell getting a turn at Hampden either.

Well its been won by small teams the last 3 seasons.....St Johnstone, Inverness and Hibs......

[peter_hmfc]

Anyone else going to the Kosovar Cup Final on the 30th? Should get a Kickback bus going.

 

[eduardo.j]

Yes there was but I don't think they have even started on it yet.

 

Moving the game to Faro might be an option. Been done before.

 

If we draw that team by some fluke of chance, we are looking at 2000-3000 or so travelling I would imagine

The national team played their home games in Portugal during euro 2016 qualification due to a new ground being built.

 

Also those of you asking about prices in the faroes, every Christmas a boat of them docks in leith and one of the first things they do is raid the nearest supermarket for as much chocolate,cakes and biscuits they can along with booze as well, apparently those tins of quality Street at ?5 are about ?20 there!

 

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[Statto]

Our list of potential opponents for the 1st and 2nd qualifying round of the 2016/17 Europa League is complete.

 

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2016.html

 

Here is the full list of potential 1st round opponents in order of distance from Edinburgh.

 

Cliftonville (Northern Ireland)

Glenavon (Northern Ireland)

Bala Town (Wales)

Llandudno FC (Wales)

Connah's Quay (Wales)

Cork City (Republic of Ireland)

HB Torshavn (Faroe Islands)

Vikingur (Faroe Islands)

NSI Runavik (Faroe Islands)

CS Fola Esch (Luxembourg)

Jeunesse d'Esch (Luxembourg)

Valur Reykjavik (Iceland)

FC Lusitanos (Andorra)

UE Santa Coloma (Andorra)

Spartak Myjava (Slovakia)

Nova Gorica (Slovenia)

FK Jelgava (Latvia)

Spartaks Jurmala (Latvia)

Infonet Tallinn (Estonia)

RoPS Rovaniemi (Finland)

IFK Mariehamn (Finland)

La Fiorita (San Marino)

Folgore (San Marino)

MTK Budapest (Hungary)

Suduva Marijampole (Lithuania)

Atlantas Klaipeda (Lithuania)

FK Trakai (Lithuania)

Radnik Bijeljina (Bosnia)

Sloboda Tuzla (Bosnia)

Rudar Pljevlja (Montenegro)

Budnucnost Podgorica (Montenegro)

Bokelj Kotor (Montenegro)

Europa FC (Gibraltar)

FC Prishtina (Kosovo)

Teuta Durres (Albania)

Partizani Tirana (Albania)

Shkendija Tetovo (Macedonia)

Sileks Kratovo (Macedonia)

Slavia Sofia (Bulgaria)

Zaria Balti (Moldova)

Birkirkara (Malta)

Hibernians (Malta)

Balzan FC (Malta)

Chikhura Sachkhere (Georgia)

Samtredia (Georgia)

Shirak Gyumri (Armenia)

Banants Yerevan (Armenia)

Kapaz Ganja (Azerbaijan)

Ordabasy Shymkent (Kazakhstan)

[CollyWolly]

West Ham would be great at that stage.

 

And not entirely a dead rubber (IMO).

If they weren't interested in the competition and played a second string, we'd give them a game but would struggle to beat them. If they played their first 11 at anything like racing speed they would murder us.

[luckyBatistuta]

R1...Hibernians please

 

R2...Wouldn't want Cracovia Krak?w, as there fans are psychos.

[BM1874]

Ooft some countries I wouldnt fancy being drawn too (kazakstan kosovo armenia) as well as slovakia finland and slovenia aint too desireable

 

Whereas

Gibraltar/san marino/andorra would all be decent

[Different Class]

Ooft some countries I wouldnt fancy being drawn too (kazakstan kosovo armenia) as well as slovakia finland and slovenia aint too desireable

 

Whereas

Gibraltar/san marino/andorra would all be decent

 

Slovenia undesirable? It's a great wee country

[davemclaren]

good to see that there are still some nations in Europe whose teams we fancy our chances against.

[Riddley Walker]

Slovenia undesirable? It's a great wee country

 

I was going to call him on the same thing but I think he might mean the quality of opposition in those three countries. I think.

[Daveandal]

Obviously lots winnable games there but also some tricky ones.

 

Kind of fancy a wee road trip myself.

[Zen Jambo]

One of the Welsh teams please. Can't afford a trip abroad

[BM1874]

I was going to call him on the same thing but I think he might mean the quality of opposition in those three countries. I think.

Very much this. Heard nothing but positives about the place. Just dnt fancy a slovenian team JUST Yet.

[onetruejambo]

Kosovo please, planning a trip there next year anyways but wouldn't mind this year, that's what Europe is all about, **** Wales, England, Ireland etc that's just lets pretend

[BelgeJambo]

There are not enough unknowns anymore for us to be unseeded. That's why we are now in the seeded colomn.

Therefore we are seeded for Q1 and Q2! Let's hope that throws up some good games, but also some winnable games to get us off to a good start.

 

It is also possible that we could be seeded for Q3, but I fear that too many results would have to go our way, so best bets for Q3 and Q4 is unseeded, but hopefully also getting a winnable draw. We can only hope!

Yes please for Tallinn

[Ferryjambo99]

Hope to god we don't get shymkent. To put the distance into perspective, shymkent is nearer seoul than edinburgh

[Dean Winchester]

As long as we get through the first round and the second round away game is the 14th. It's the only chance I have for a European trip this year

[The Continental Op]

If they weren't interested in the competition and played a second string, we'd give them a game but would struggle to beat them. If they played their first 11 at anything like racing speed they would murder us.

They only just managed to get past Birkirkara of Malta (!) in a penalty shoot out in QR2 this season

[luckyBatistuta]

Edit

[willie wallace]

R1...Hibernians please

 

R2...Wouldn't want Cracovia Krak?w, as there fans are psychos.

So are the Hibernians fans.

[willie wallace]

As this been one of the most informative threads in KB history and my holidays only starting in mid August who can we expect to be playing in the group stages.

I would prefer a Dutch team due to free accomodation but not that bothered.

 

Only super optimists to reply.

[We_are_the_Hearts]

As this been one of the most informative threads in KB history and my holidays only starting in mid August who can we expect to be playing in the group stages.

I would prefer a Dutch team due to free accomodation but not that bothered.

 

Only super optimists to reply.

Sounds like you have been on Amsterdam's finest.................

[Bainy]

Don't fancy trying to get to:

 

Kapaz Ganja (Azerbaijan)

Ordabasy Shymkent (Kazakhstan)

 

I am sure they would be incredible trips but a nightmare to get to.

[Ferryjambo99]

Faroe Islands would be excellent with direct flights from Edinburgh