alicante jambo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Vaguely remember him being pretty succesfull withe the youth/reserve or u21s.Whats he up to now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argyjambo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Pretty sure he was our 1st team defensive coach at one point. Don't remember what management team that he worked under, might be a useful addition to our coaching staff. Budgetary & personnel priorities notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Worked under Jefferies first time round I think, very successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Manager of montrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I genuinely haven't met a nicer bloke than Paul Hegarty. I met him during JJ's spell as manager. He was also a tremendous centre half for Dundeen Utd during a time when they were one of europes to sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I genuinely haven't met a nicer bloke than Paul Hegarty. I met him during JJ's spell as manager. He was also a tremendous centre half for Dundeen Utd during a time when they were one of europes to sides. I met him as well and a good guy born in Edinburgh who loved the Hearts. He was the captain of Dundee Utd most successful teams playing beside David Narey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I genuinely haven't met a nicer bloke than Paul Hegarty. I met him during JJ's spell as manager. He was also a tremendous centre half for Dundeen Utd during a time when they were one of europes to sides. I was just going to post the same. Definitely one of lifes good guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I was just going to post the same. Definitely one of lifes good guys Spot on. We certainly benefited from him working with Mr Jim. I can't believe that he isn't working in the top flight. What I'd give to have a player like him at centre half now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torry Jambo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I met him as well and a good guy born in Edinburgh who loved the Hearts. He was the captain of Dundee Utd most successful teams playing beside David Narey. Showing my age here but If I remember correctly,his brother Kevin was a striker at Hearts for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Showing my age here but If I remember correctly,his brother Kevin was a striker at Hearts for a while. Correct and unfortunately not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Showing my age here but If I remember correctly,his brother Kevin was a striker at Hearts for a while. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Correct and unfortunately not very good. Kevin Hegarty was a decent young striker for us who went on to have a good career in midfield for Dunfermline. Good pro and quite good. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie wallace Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Played with Paul at Tynecastle under 18s.He was a top centre forward back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Showing my age here but If I remember correctly,his brother Kevin was a striker at Hearts for a while.i know Kevin well. Still a big Hearts man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'd love someone with the defensive awareness and skills Hegs had in our back four now. Cracking player and really nice guy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 manager(??) of Electric Centre branch up there seen him at Abbeyhill branch last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guess The Crowd Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I met him as well and a good guy born in Edinburgh who loved the Hearts. He was the captain of Dundee Utd most successful teams playing beside David Narey. Another guy from that team to whom the same applies is Billy Kirkwood. Hearts fan / really nice guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie wallace Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Played with Paul at Tynecastle under 18s.He was a top centre forward back then. Was just thinking after this post that Paul was still playing boys club football at 17 and must have been closer to 18 when he joined Hamilton. What are the chances of this happening nowadays.Did him no harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibpc Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Remember seeing under age team including a young and raw Robbie Neilson, Kevin Hegarty as defence coach and Peter Houston in midfield playing Gala Fairydean. Hegarty organised the defence brought them up and down as a line, Houston sat and played passes through the midfield. Like sitting on a training lecture. Always liked them both ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 manager(??) of Electric Centre branch up there seen him at Abbeyhill branch last year Manager of Montrose as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Was in Montrose today for an auction, not enough time to see a game if there was one - Hegarty was magnificent for United . I always felt that Scotland might have done better to opt for narey and Hegarty at the back or miller mcleish but they wanted to accommodate Hansen ? What a contract to today's options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torry Jambo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hansen got a game for Scotland,only due to the club he played for.At that time,the English League was not any better than the top teams of the time In Scotland,such was the European competition runs from Aberdeen and Dundee United.It would have been better having Hegarty/Narey or Miller/McLeish playing for Scotland Instead of Hansen and may have to a better understanding In the World Cup Finals In Spain,when a lack of communication between Hansen and Miller,led to the goal that knocked us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torry Jambo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hansen got a game for Scotland,only due to the club he played for.At that time,the English League was not any better than the top teams of the time In Scotland,such was the European competition runs from Aberdeen and Dundee United.It would have been better having Hegarty/Narey or Miller/McLeish playing for Scotland Instead of Hansen and may have led to a better understanding In the World Cup Finals In Spain,when a lack of communication between Hansen and Miller,led to the goal that knocked us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hansen got a game for Scotland,only due to the club he played for.At that time,the English League was not any better than the top teams of the time In Scotland,such was the European competition runs from Aberdeen and Dundee United.It would have been better having Hegarty/Narey or Miller/McLeish playing for Scotland Instead of Hansen and may have to a better understanding In the World Cup Finals In Spain,when a lack of communication between Hansen and Miller,led to the goal that knocked us out. Yep - I was at the game in question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hansen got a game for Scotland,only due to the club he played for.At that time,the English League was not any better than the top teams of the time In Scotland,such was the European competition runs from Aberdeen and Dundee United.It would have been better having Hegarty/Narey or Miller/McLeish playing for Scotland Instead of Hansen and may have to a better understanding In the World Cup Finals In Spain,when a lack of communication between Hansen and Miller,led to the goal that knocked us out. I take it this is an attempt at a troll. Hansen was one of the best centre backs in Europe and should have been playing for Scotland many more times. At that time Scotland had some excellent defenders and the anglos were not seen in such a good light by the local press hence many missed out to home based players. He won what is now known as the Champions league unlike those you mention and whilst the gap was not as large there was a gap still between England and Scotland at club level. You can hold the opinion that the others were better and that club partnerships helped but lets not run down an excellent defender who was part of the team dominating European football at the time. None of those mentioned would have made the Liverpool team of that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I take it this is an attempt at a troll. Hansen was one of the best centre backs in Europe and should have been playing for Scotland many more times. At that time Scotland had some excellent defenders and the anglos were not seen in such a good light by the local press hence many missed out to home based players. He won what is now known as the Champions league unlike those you mention and whilst the gap was not as large there was a gap still between England and Scotland at club level. You can hold the opinion that the others were better and that club partnerships helped but lets not run down an excellent defender who was part of the team dominating European football at the time. None of those mentioned would have made the Liverpool team of that era. Always used to irritate me that many anglos used to call of NT duty. Club over country. And some were absolutely appalling at international level. Steve Nicholson was terrible for Scotland and Steve Archibald used to do my nut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Always used to irritate me that many anglos used to call of NT duty. Club over country. And some were absolutely appalling at international level. Steve Nicholson was terrible for Scotland and Steve Archibald used to do my nut...Gary Gillespie was garbage in dark blue too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I take it this is an attempt at a troll. Hansen was one of the best centre backs in Europe and should have been playing for Scotland many more times. At that time Scotland had some excellent defenders and the anglos were not seen in such a good light by the local press hence many missed out to home based players. He won what is now known as the Champions league unlike those you mention and whilst the gap was not as large there was a gap still between England and Scotland at club level. You can hold the opinion that the others were better and that club partnerships helped but lets not run down an excellent defender who was part of the team dominating European football at the time. None of those mentioned would have made the Liverpool team of that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I take it this is an attempt at a troll. Hansen was one of the best centre backs in Europe and should have been playing for Scotland many more times. At that time Scotland had some excellent defenders and the anglos were not seen in such a good light by the local press hence many missed out to home based players. He won what is now known as the Champions league unlike those you mention and whilst the gap was not as large there was a gap still between England and Scotland at club level. You can hold the opinion that the others were better and that club partnerships helped but lets not run down an excellent defender who was part of the team dominating European football at the time. None of those mentioned would have made the Liverpool team of that era. Hansen didn't win the Champions Leaugue - he was part of a very good side that did - a fact that over estimated his ability in international terms imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hansen didn't win the Champions Leaugue - he was part of a very good side that did - a fact that over estimated his ability in international terms imho Whereas Hegarty was part of a team that could not win in Europe and if we follow your logic was overrated given his achievements...he was a good player but in Hansens class ?..sorry but no. It's all about opinion but in mine Hansen was a better player and defender. I have seen them both live in their prime and as stated previously whilst there were good defenders in Scotland none were as good as Hansen. The club partnerships with Aberdeen and Dundee United defenders meant he was overlooked too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 if levein hadnt got his injury he would have been as good as hansen imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Correct and unfortunately not very good. Was top scorer (7 from memory) when Seith arrived, having scored 3 goals in 2 games against Celtic within a fortnight (league cup section matches, lost 2-1 and 4-2). Was instantly dropped by Seith because his hair was too long, or that was the reason given to Hegarty. At a time that Hearts just couldn't score, he was brought back for a Derby we lost 2-1, he scored our goal, and was then dropped for the next match. He was then brought back as an unused sub in an unexpected defeat to St Johnston (we didn't score) and was the only man dropped from the squad for the next match. Johnny Harvey, the manager who signed him, had high hopes for Kevin, he (Harvey) was a much better manager than Seith. Kevin knew Seith didn't want him around, was young and lost his early confdence as a result. It will always be a mystery to me why any new manager would instantly drop his club's top scorer, but no young footballer can be 'very good' with a manager who won't give him a chance. Johnny Harvey gave him a chance, and he found a top goalscorer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Always used to irritate me that many anglos used to call of NT duty. Club over country. And some were absolutely appalling at international level. Steve Nicholson was terrible for Scotland and Steve Archibald used to do my nut... Steve Nichol you mean? Thought he was a good servant for club and country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hansen didn't win the Champions Leaugue - he was part of a very good side that did - a fact that over estimated his ability in international terms imho Eh? By your logic then nobody has ever won a European Cup/Champions League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hansen was a top drawer footballer, and it would be ridiculous to suggests otherwise. His measly 26 caps was due to the Miller/McLeish partnership. Hegarty and Narey also had a fantastic partnership but Miller/McLeish was too strong. I think Narey was playing full back when he scored v Brazil. I think it was Deodato who recently posted 'The Jim McLean' years video on here. I watched it, and of course, Utd's achievements from 1979-87 were extraordinary. Something was obviously very wrong with the Scotland set up back then that allowed for such average performances in major championships because we had an abundance of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Got my mum to cut out numbers 10 and sew on to my Hearts top, Kevin Heggarty was my new favourite. The numbers were made in brown cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 My original point was that the pairing of narey and Hegarty brought something above the individual skills of each player (as did Miller/Mcleish). Not that Hansen wasn't a more skilled player. I would have liked to have seen narey and Hegarty get a chance for Scotland, even if it meant dropping the more skilled Hansen. The best team isn't necessarily about the best 11 individual players - look at clough's teams for example. One thing narey and Hegarty had off pat was an empathetic understanding of when one or other (usually but not always Narey) should come forward with the ball or add to an attack. That could give D Utd a critical extra player in a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheile Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Was top scorer (7 from memory) when Seith arrived, having scored 3 goals in 2 games against Celtic within a fortnight (league cup section matches, lost 2-1 and 4-2). Was instantly dropped by Seith because his hair was too long, or that was the reason given to Hegarty. At a time that Hearts just couldn't score, he was brought back for a Derby we lost 2-1, he scored our goal, and was then dropped for the next match. He was then brought back as an unused sub in an unexpected defeat to St Johnston (we didn't score) and was the only man dropped from the squad for the next match. Johnny Harvey, the manager who signed him, had high hopes for Kevin, he (Harvey) was a much better manager than Seith. Kevin knew Seith didn't want him around, was young and lost his early confdence as a result. It will always be a mystery to me why any new manager would instantly drop his club's top scorer, but no young footballer can be 'very good' with a manager who won't give him a chance. Johnny Harvey gave him a chance, and he found a top goalscorer! Off thread topic, but as was pointed out just after Seith was appointed his name is an anagram of shite. How apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I take it this is an attempt at a troll. Hansen was one of the best centre backs in Europe and should have been playing for Scotland many more times. At that time Scotland had some excellent defenders and the anglos were not seen in such a good light by the local press hence many missed out to home based players. He won what is now known as the Champions league unlike those you mention and whilst the gap was not as large there was a gap still between England and Scotland at club level. You can hold the opinion that the others were better and that club partnerships helped but lets not run down an excellent defender who was part of the team dominating European football at the time. None of those mentioned would have made the Liverpool team of that era. Hansen massively under-achieved on those occasions he could be arsed turning out for his country. PH may not have had the ability of Hansen but I would have much rather have him and Narey or Miller and Mcleish in a scotland rather than accommodating somebody with Hansen's commitment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I genuinely don't understand why Scotland is unable to produce any top quality players, look at the centre backs discussed here, mcleish, Miller, narey, hegarty, Hansen, then add levein, gough, Alan mclaren ... Something has gone badly wrong.. Is Alan mclaren the last top class centre back Scotland produced? Maybe John Kennedy would have got there were it not for his injury... What the hell has gone wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Bobby Seith sends a shiver down my spine a bit like when Tommy McLean's name crops up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YMWrules Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I genuinely don't understand why Scotland is unable to produce any top quality players, look at the centre backs discussed here, mcleish, Miller, narey, hegarty, Hansen, then add levein, gough, Alan mclaren ... Something has gone badly wrong.. Is Alan mclaren the last top class centre back Scotland produced? Maybe John Kennedy would have got there were it not for his injury... What the hell has gone wrong... The coaching at grass roots from the late 80's through the 90's was abysmal,teams were being run by egotistical numpties more concerned with their own credibility than the development of players,we still produce genuinely skillfull players,they just either loose their way or get it coached out of them.Darren Fletcher was an average player in our area at under 10's and had 3 players well ahead in his Langlaw team including Neil Jancyk,but he had the dedication to make it to the top where as guys like Janny enjoyed the birds n bevvy too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Steve Nichol you mean? Thought he was a good servant for club and country.yeah, another autocorrect fail...I thought he was always better for Liverpool than he ever was for Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The coaching at grass roots from the late 80's through the 90's was abysmal,teams were being run by egotistical numpties more concerned with their own credibility than the development of players,we still produce genuinely skillfull players,they just either loose their way or get it coached out of them.Darren Fletcher was an average player in our area at under 10's and had 3 players well ahead in his Langlaw team including Neil Jancyk,but he had the dedication to make it to the top where as guys like Janny enjoyed the birds n bevvy too much. All true, but the coaching standards have increased in the past decade but still I don't see any genuine "top" talent coming through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 yeah, another autocorrect fail...I thought he was always better for Liverpool than he ever was for Scotland. Can't argue with that chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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