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If Dundee United get him have Hibs taken the step from being an old firm nursery to a premier top six and any team in England nursery ?

 

What happens next could decide which way Hibs will be going in the next ten years ! Never ever wanted to be a Hibee but even less these days.

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Tbh as funny as it would be for them to lose him, I would rather Dundee Utd didn't strengthen. Allan and McGinn are both decent players.

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With Rod still firmly at the helm, any decent offer will be accepted.  They can't afford not to.

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letsalllaughathobos

Hibs deserve everything they get after the way they have behaved towards us over the last while, I hope all there new sigings are duds and they rot in championship for many many years to come,

 

Fth

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Tbh as funny as it would be for them to lose him, I would rather Dundee Utd didn't strengthen. Allan and McGinn are both decent players.

Decent but nothing special,

Allan is one of the most overrated players ever,

Not hard to look good in championship,

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Jambof3tornado

I want a strong hibs pushing sevco all the way. Anything which weakens our nearest and dearest rivals is bad(until they get back up into the top flight with us).

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Bert Le Clos

Big money required surely

 

unless there is a "clause in his contract"

 

:gok:

 

?500k.

 

Whether that is considered big money for a player like Allan I don't know. But I'm almost certain it would be enough to take him away from Hibs.

 

I wouldn't want us to pay it for him, I still think we need to spend our money more wisely and already have three creative attacking midfielders. Four if you count El Hass.

 

But Dundee Utd have lost their three most creative midfielders in the last two seasons, getting money for them all. Plus they've just got a decent wedge for Cifti. If I was an Utd fan I'd be quite happy to spend ?500k on Allan who's the type of player they need.

 

Hibs don't have a pot to piss in.

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?500k.

 

Whether that is considered big money for a player like Allan I don't know. But I'm almost certain it would be enough to take him away from Hibs.

 

I wouldn't want us to pay it for him, I still think we need to spend our money more wisely and already have three creative attacking midfielders. Four if you count El Hass.

 

But Dundee Utd have lost their three most creative midfielders in the last two seasons, getting money for them all. Plus they've just got a decent wedge for Cifti. If I was an Utd fan I'd be quite happy to spend ?500k on Allan who's the type of player they need.

 

Hibs don't have a pot to piss in.

He was at United and they emptied him.

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Scott Allan was good in the Championship last season but I still cannot see why all the hype about a player who has hardly played any top flight games in his career.

 

For somebody who is meant to be so brilliant he has up until last year struggled to get a game for anyone he has played for.  Not sure either how many of his appearances were substitute appearances either.

 

 

2010?2012 Dundee United 8 Appearances

2010Forfar Athletic (loan) 4 Appearances

2012?2014 West Bromwich Albion 0 Appearances

2012Portsmouth (loan) 15 Appearances

2012Milton Keynes Dons (loan) 4 Appearances 

2012?2013Portsmouth (loan) 9 Appearances

2013?2014Birmingham City (loan) 5 Appearances

2014? Hibernian 32 Appearances

 

He has scored 5 career goals.

 

Average player who has had the season of his life against the crap teams in the second tier of Scottish football - would you pay big money for him?

 

I predict he will be playing for Arbroath in 2 years time ;)

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Dundee Utd must have a bit to spend after all the players they sold.

 

It might also be worth it in the long run. If they don't make a couple of statement of intent signings they will end up losing more money in fan revenue because they have done a good job of alienating them recently.

 

Buying Allan and McGinn might help sell some more season tickets and merchandise.

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?500k.

 

Whether that is considered big money for a player like Allan I don't know. But I'm almost certain it would be enough to take him away from Hibs.

 

I wouldn't want us to pay it for him, I still think we need to spend our money more wisely and already have three creative attacking midfielders. Four if you count El Hass.

 

But Dundee Utd have lost their three most creative midfielders in the last two seasons, getting money for them all. Plus they've just got a decent wedge for Cifti. If I was an Utd fan I'd be quite happy to spend ?500k on Allan who's the type of player they need.

 

Hibs don't have a pot to piss in.

 

 

I'd say that we have no creative, attacking midfielders other than Anderson and maybe El Hass, both of whom have struggled to make an impact.

Gomis is more a playmaker, Prince is an all-rounder and Pallardo is a tackler.

We tend not to play an attacking midfielder and rely on 2 wingers and 2 strikers so our managers might not regard that position as vital.

I'd say a quality, attacking, central midfielder is exactly what we need and what we're lacking tbh.

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He was at United and they emptied him.

He left, a bit acrimoniously if i remeber correctly. But he wasn't binned

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Bert Le Clos

I'd say that we have no creative, attacking midfielders other than Anderson and maybe El Hass, both of whom have struggled to make an impact.

Gomis is more a playmaker, Prince is an all-rounder and Pallardo is a tackler.

We tend not to play an attacking midfielder and rely on 2 wingers and 2 strikers so our managers might not regard that position as vital.

I'd say a quality, attacking, central midfielder is exactly what we need and what we're lacking tbh.

 

I disagree. If anything we need a player who will get up in support of or beyond the striker. I think we'll mostly play one main striker, two wingers and someone in behind the striker.

 

That player seems to be Walker, however it's debatable if that's his best position. I can see Anderson and El Hass playing there too although the jury is still out on them.

 

Playing that formation, we need our midfielders to have a bit of discipline, be good at either winning or intercepting the ball and be capable of playing short, simple passes forward or out wide. I'm happy that Pallardo, Gomis and Buaben cover us in that respect, with Buaben having the added bonus of getting forward a little more when needed. We don't urgently need another tidy midfielder.

 

I suppose it all depends on where we are going to play Sow. Scott Allan is a very good player, but if it came down to spending money I'd much rather it was on a Cameron type who will burst into the box and get us goals from midfield. Allan is a very good player IMO, just not the exact sort we need. Especially not if it involves dropping hundreds of thousands of pounds on him.

 

Just my opinion mind!

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I disagree. If anything we need a player who will get up in support of or beyond the striker. I think we'll mostly play one main striker, two wingers and someone in behind the striker.

 

That player seems to be Walker, however it's debatable if that's his best position. I can see Anderson and El Hass playing there too although the jury is still out on them.

 

Playing that formation, we need our midfielders to have a bit of discipline, be good at either winning or intercepting the ball and be capable of playing short, simple passes forward or out wide. I'm happy that Pallardo, Gomis and Buaben cover us in that respect, with Buaben having the added bonus of getting forward a little more when needed. We don't urgently need another tidy midfielder.

 

I suppose it all depends on where we are going to play Sow. Scott Allan is a very good player, but if it came down to spending money I'd much rather it was on a Cameron type who will burst into the box and get us goals from midfield. Allan is a very good player IMO, just not the exact sort we need. Especially not if it involves dropping hundreds of thousands of pounds on him.

 

Just my opinion mind!

 

That's exactly what I meant that we needed.

The attacking, creative midfielder in the Paul Hartley mould. Even a young Stevo would be a decent addition.

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He was at United and they emptied him.

Or, he rejected a new deal and got an offer from the English premier league.

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That's exactly what I meant that we needed.

The attacking, creative midfielder in the Paul Hartley mould. Even a young Stevo would be a decent addition.

 

Apologies, a bit of confusion.

 

I don't see Allan as that type of player is all.

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johnking123

That's exactly what I meant that we needed.

The attacking, creative midfielder in the Paul Hartley mould. Even a young Stevo would be a decent addition.

Think thats what they are trying to turn Walker into.

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Apologies, a bit of confusion.

 

I don't see Allan as that type of player is all.

 

I don't either.

I just disagreed that we have 3 or 4 attacking midfielders.

I think we only have 1 at present and he doesn't look great.

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Think thats what they are trying to turn Walker into.

 

Spot on.

He is certainly a threat from that position.

I like him on the wing better though.

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I'd say that we have no creative, attacking midfielders other than Anderson and maybe El Hass, both of whom have struggled to make an impact.

Gomis is more a playmaker, Prince is an all-rounder and Pallardo is a tackler.

We tend not to play an attacking midfielder and rely on 2 wingers and 2 strikers so our managers might not regard that position as vital.

I'd say a quality, attacking, central midfielder is exactly what we need and what we're lacking tbh.

A bigb part of our lack of attacking midfielder, is down to us playing two wingers imo. We are more set up for a centreforward and a supporting striker like El Hass, than a Hartley/Cameron attacking midfielder imo. If we play with two wingers, it's more important to have a strong and solid centre midfield than a 'tip of the diamond' midfielder.

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A bigb part of our lack of attacking midfielder, is down to us playing two wingers imo. We are more set up for a centreforward and a supporting striker like El Hass, than a Hartley/Cameron attacking midfielder imo. If we play with two wingers, it's more important to have a strong and solid centre midfield than a 'tip of the diamond' midfielder.

 

Agree with all of that. Two wingers and two strikers seems to be the way Robbie likes to set up. 

I just think a goal threat from centre midfield would be a great addition to the squad.

Easier said than done I guess. Cameron and Hartley types don't come along too often. I guess the only way we can get that sort of quality player is to find someone from abroad with potential (Anderson) and develop them or nurture someone through the academy and help them diversify into that role (Walker).

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A bigb part of our lack of attacking midfielder, is down to us playing two wingers imo. We are more set up for a centreforward and a supporting striker like El Hass, than a Hartley/Cameron attacking midfielder imo. If we play with two wingers, it's more important to have a strong and solid centre midfield than a 'tip of the diamond' midfielder.

Understand that but Burley's team had 2 wingers and only Brellier as DM midfield in an attacking 4-4-2. To me it's the one main flaw in our squad. No quality attacking midfielder.

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Agree with all of that. Two wingers and two strikers seems to be the way Robbie likes to set up.

I just think a goal threat from centre midfield would be a great addition to the squad.

Easier said than done I guess. Cameron and Hartley types don't come along too often. I guess the only way we can get that sort of quality player is to find someone from abroad with potential (Anderson) and develop them or nurture someone through the academy and help them diversify into that role (Walker).

I also prefer playing with an attacking central midfielder. It always needs to be balanced with a Brellier/Mrowiec type though, imo. Pallardo is more of a ball player than that I think.

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Understand that but Burley's team had 2 wingers and only Brellier as DM midfield in an attacking 4-4-2. To me it's the one main flaw in our squad. No quality attacking midfielder.

Who would play the Brellier role though?

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I also prefer playing with an attacking central midfielder. It always needs to be balanced with a Brellier/Mrowiec type though, imo. Pallardo is more of a ball player than that I think.

 

Pallardo is a quality defensive mid. His all round game is light years ahead of Brellier or Mrowiec.

They were limited players that existed to do a simple job. Pallardo is a decent all rounder although clearly is more defensive minded.

He's not as attacking as Prince and doesn't have the same passing and brain as Gomis but he's way better at tackling and reading the game than both of them. 

The midfielder that we lack is the goal thread from the middle. Maybe that'll be Prince this year. 

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Jambof3tornado

I also prefer playing with an attacking central midfielder. It always needs to be balanced with a Brellier/Mrowiec type though, imo. Pallardo is more of a ball player than that I think.

Miguel showed last season that he can make a pass to uock a defence,prince too for that matter.
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I'd honestly play Pallardo a bit further forward if given the choice. I think he's a little wasted as a defensive midfielder.

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I'd honestly play Pallardo a bit further forward if given the choice. I think he's a little wasted as a defensive midfielder.

 

That's his best position so he should play there.

He's a wee fighter so let him fight it out in front of the defence.

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That's his best position so he should play there.

He's a wee fighter so let him fight it out in front of the defence.

 

That and players of his type who can find space, be available for the pass out of defence and keep the ball moving to good effect, are quite rare up here. He is a very calming influence in the deeper role, you know he's not going to give it away in dangerous areas.

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That's his best position so he should play there.

He's a wee fighter so let him fight it out in front of the defence.

I felt he looked more effective slightly further forward, and that he struggled slightly against attacking midfielders when we played Hibs and Rangers. Just imo.

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ChunkyCharlie

Hibs deserve everything they get after the way they have behaved towards us over the last while, I hope all there new sigings are duds and they rot in championship for many many years to come,

 

Fth

Couldn't agree more!

 

They wanted us dead!

 

Let them die!

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Couldn't agree more!

 

They wanted us dead!

 

Let them die!

Am I the only one who really, really looks forward to derbies and never wants them to end?

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Gigolo-Aunt

Scott Allen is a talented player so it stands to reason that clubs in the top division are looking at him.

 

Not a lot of money sloshing around in the Scottish game so Hibs will have to weight up taking a fee and putting faith in their scouting system to come up with a replacement or keeping a hold of their best player to push for promotion.

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ChunkyCharlie

Am I the only one who really, really looks forward to derbies and never wants them to end?

Don't think so mate however with they way their fans acted I really really hope they curl up and die and become a part time team playing in league 2. We will draw them in the cups over the years and just destroy them when we do. Everybody wins :verysmug:

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Don't think so mate however with they way their fans acted I really really hope they curl up and die and become a part time team playing in league 2. We will draw them in the cups over the years and just destroy them when we do. Everybody wins :verysmug:

I suppose it's just different types of pain we wish on them - I want them facing us four times a year with that pretend confident air that they have, so we can gut punch them again and again and again  :verysmug:

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I think he'll sign a pre contract with Rangers in January and leave for free. His time at Hibs will peter out along with their bid for promotion.

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And he's not praying

Ideal scenario is he stays at Hibs, signs a pre contract agreement in January and Hibs end up with no money and a player whose thoughts are elsewhere. Rangers/St mirren/anyone wins the league, hibs bottle the play offs again and are faced with a 3rd year in Scotlands second tier.

 

Then they die.

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Ideal scenario is he stays at Hibs, signs a pre contract agreement in January and Hibs end up with no money and a player whose thoughts are elsewhere. Rangers/St mirren/anyone wins the league, hibs bottle the play offs again and are faced with a 3rd year in Scotlands second tier.

 

Then they die.

I am all good with that except the part where you suggest St Mirren winning the league.

 

They can **** off with hibs.

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Couldn't agree more!

 

They wanted us dead!

 

Let them die!

 

 

Ideal scenario is he stays at Hibs, signs a pre contract agreement in January and Hibs end up with no money and a player whose thoughts are elsewhere. Rangers/St mirren/anyone wins the league, hibs bottle the play offs again and are faced with a 3rd year in Scotlands second tier.

 

Then they die.

 

I think it was small core of the "bitterest hobo's" that were sending the emails, printing party flyers etc. Who knows, maybe tomorrow they'll want to settle down.

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Bert Le Clos

I don't either.

I just disagreed that we have 3 or 4 attacking midfielders.

I think we only have 1 at present and he doesn't look great.

 

I was including King and Nicholson in my definition of attacking midfielders. Not as in the "behind the striker type", just attack minded midfielders. 

 

I think there's probably room for another attacking midfielder in our squad, but as you say Scott Allan isn't it. And I certainly wouldn't want us spending ?500k on anyone we bring in. That was more the point of my post.

 

Agreed on Pallardo being left to play deeper though. If anyone should be pushed forward out of our three centre mids it's Buaben.

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PresidentGrant

Surprised United are prioritising Allan and McGinn. Both good players but both midfielders. Armstrong, GMS and Ciftci would all be considered genuine attackers IMO and don't think they've replaced any of them yet. Who have they got left up top? Just the guy Erskine? Can't see them challenging for top 4 this year tbh.

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Cast No Shadow

Good player.

 

Miffed and unsure as to why we never went for him when he was a free agent last summer.

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Good player.

 

Miffed and unsure as to why we never went for him when he was a free agent last summer.

 

Agreed, we really missed him in midfield last season :cornette:

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Agreed, we really missed him in midfield last season :cornette:

Yes, because you can always afford to stop seeking to improve things. He is certainly a better player than Gomis and Buaben and I'd be delighted to see him alongside Pallardo.

 

A standard dinosaur response really.

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