jamboinglasgow Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 http://www.teamtalk.com/scottish-premier/9745468/Celtic-chief-executive-Peter-Lawwell-says-club-exploring-ways-of-joining-a-European-league?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter ...please go spin on it. So after plundering Scottish football, grabbing as many fans as possible, making sure you have every bit of power, you decide that Scottish football doesn't deserve you so are looking for more money by going abroad. oh sorry, but you made your own mess, you have brought Scottish football down, stopped ways of making it more competitive, thus making it more attractive for more investment. So please dont treat Scottish football as holding you back when (and your old firm partner in crime) have held smaller clubs back for years. This is why we dont get more money, Celtic keep gazing away at the next door neighbour thinking its just a matter of time before they take you in, why should care about long term future and improvement of the house your already in if in your mind its only temporary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Well where could they go. Its only practical to be part of the FA. They can't join the Bundeseiga for exaample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC86 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 There is zero chance of any of that happening. How can a euro elite league compete or run alongside the champions league. To run along side clubs who qualify on a regular basis would lose this. Stupid Celtic we are too big for Scotland crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden Gorgie Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Amen to that JiG, their arrogance knows no bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Well where could they go. Its only practical to be part of the FA. They can't join the Bundeseiga for exaample. well he is convinced there will a European league of second tier league teams (presume he thinks Netherlands, Portugal, Scotland etc.) But if it is only made up of the biggest supported teams in these countries, it brings the biggest flaw in these leagues (same with a super European league with teams like Barcelona, Chelsea ,etc.) The flaw is that its fine if your the team in the top 3 every time, but say your a big club such as Celtic, built on success and winning most of the time, imagine being in a league where you are mid table or even lower table, where you quite often lose, are fans going to keep following you in the numbers they were before? Of course note. So a clubs support goes down, its money goes down, it gets worse and worse, and then does it justify its place in such a league. There is zero chance of any of that happening. How can a euro elite league compete or run alongside the champions league. To run along side clubs who qualify on a regular basis would lose this. Stupid Celtic we are too big for Scotland crap. exactly. But so long as the old firm convince themselves that its possible they lose interest in bigging up Scottish football and doing the hard work to secure better deals for the league. Instead they will belittle it, and even have an interest in keeping the league revenue low as it provides the excuse to keep pushing to move for a better deal ("the money in Scottish football is so restrictive, but if we moved to a bigger league we could get more money for the team which could trickle down to Scottish football as we could buy SPFL players.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I honestly don't blame them for being 'envious' of abroad or even wanting to play in a different league. If they played in one of the major leagues and with the resources that came with it they probably could be a massive club that signed top players rather than one that sells their best ones to Norwich or Southampton. I do however detest them for the continual talking down of the SPL to the detriment of everyone in it including themselves to the point of the main sporting competition in a country being unable to find a sponsor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 JiG has summed it up perfectly to be honest. How many years of having your shite clothes ripped, and the popular-kid's front door slammed in your face do Celtic need, before they get the message and suck it up. The only reason their current league doesn't satisfy their wants, is because they and Rangers have devalued, drained and parasitised it for so many years. Arseholes. Thankfully the very thing that helps keep them big and popular in Scotland and Ireland, is the very thing that makes them unpalatable to everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Dont care. We have proven this season that Scottish football does not need the OF to be an entertaining product. Id be more than happy if they were to leave and become a mediocre european team and we can get on with enjoying Scottish football without their poison. Or they get denied and make further aresholes of themselves. win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartally Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 The sooner they go the better - fans are a disgrace. European police will sort out these jokers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 St Johnstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 They haven't ruled out the possibility of joining an elite European league? The other clubs in this elite European league clearly have to do more to persuade Celtic to join! Maybe an effective veto along with one other club on any changes to the rules. Maybe the lion's share of sponsorship and TV money. These elite European clubs must surely know how attractive to them Celtic would be and should be bending over backwards to persuade them to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 He was also slavering about how unfair it is for their name to be blackened by their famous tiny minority of misbehavers. 2 (two) was the number he chose in order to illustrate the tinyness of the surprisingly loud minority... of 2. So... don't bother yourself dealing with the misbehavers. Much more important to pretend there aren't any - apart from 2 - and claim unfair treatment as a result. Aye... that'll get ye yer move to a bigger league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Scottish football would be absolutely brilliant if this pair just ****ed right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 GTF ASAP Mr Lawell and take the solid number 2 with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Aw bless, victims their own success...snarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Must have looked round the stadium last night at the empty seats.All 30000 of them.And to top it, they lose. You see how his statement was arrived at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinger Bell Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Scottish football would be absolutely brilliant if this pair just messed right off. Well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Must have looked round the stadium last night at the empty seats.All 30000 of them.And to top it, they lose. You see how his statement was arrived at.When they are struggling in the bottom half of their elite European league they will look back on 30,000 empty seats with fondness and envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 At what point will the SFA deem Lawell's continual besmirching and disparaging of the game and league in Scotland worthy of a disrepute charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 At what point will the SFA deem Lawell's continual besmirching and disparaging of the game and league in Scotland worthy of a disrepute charge? At no point. Mr Bawswell tells the beaks what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gristle Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Oh not again. It's like the 7 week itch. Just. Feck. Off. Then. Don't ever come crawling back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Celtic - please leave and never come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Ingram Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Is this regularly repeated Lawwell theory about loads of other clubs in other countries wanting the same thing actually true? I haven't seen any evidence of it. Obviously the biggest clubs make fortunes from the Champions League but I haven't seen that addressed by anyone (Porto, Ajax etc) wanting to leap into cross border leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Scottish football would be absolutely brilliant if this pair just messed right off. Scottish football would be even better if there was a level playing field!! If they really want the whole of Scottish football to improve *and them as well)" - then there will need to be a fairer system of distributing the money. They may not like it short term but in the longer run it would improve the standard. They could also stop plundering other teams best players - and then moaning about having no competition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldcastlerock2012 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Dont care. We have proven this season that Scottish football does not need the OF to be an entertaining product. Id be more than happy if they were to leave and become a mediocre european team and we can get on with enjoying Scottish football without their poison. Or they get denied and make further aresholes of themselves. win win. Exactly this. If the OF leave we'll get more trophies and european football and a more competitive league in general despite the fact Celtic are hardly running away with the league this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 The enthusiasm and joy of Hearts fans from our lower league campaign proves that you don't need the filth around for football to matter and to have value. Even for us, by far the next largest club behind them. Much more so for smaller clubs. We have proved they aren't needed. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 It's never going to happen. Part of me would ****ing love it if aberdeen pipped them to the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Did they not just lose at home to St Johnstone? So even when they lose it's because they don't have competition. How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Neilson Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Scottish football would be absolutely brilliant if this pair just messed right off. Amen to that. Id be all for it. Please, by all means, go ahead, dont let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. And dont come back crying if it doesnt work out. Once you are go, you stay gone The rest of us would do just fine on our own thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Makes me sick that vlad /Hearts were fined at every opportunity for saying very little but Lawwell can say our leagues suck and he wants out with no consequence whatsoever. Disgusting. I'd love the spfl to grow a pair and say "feck off then" but we know they never will. Wish the old firm would die and the beaks at Hampden slithered off with the clap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 At what point will the SFA deem Lawell's continual besmirching and disparaging of the game and league in Scotland worthy of a disrepute charge? They wont bring that against him, but I wonder if they were to say to him, fine if you want to leave then we wont have you on any SFA or SPFL boards, see how quickly he changes his tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 They wont bring that against him, but I wonder if they were to say to him, fine if you want to leave then we wont have you on any SFA or SPFL boards, see how quickly he changes his tune. He IS the board unfortunately. Until the day somebody demands the commercial interests of Celtic and eventually Rangers again stop being the same thing as the 'health of Scottish football' the rest of us will continue to be insignificant . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilmuir Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 He was also slavering about how unfair it is for their name to be blackened by their famous tiny minority of misbehavers. 2 (two) was the number he chose in order to illustrate the tinyness of the surprisingly loud minority... of 2. So... don't bother yourself dealing with the misbehavers. Much more important to pretend there aren't any - apart from 2 - and claim unfair treatment as a result. Aye... that'll get ye yer move to a bigger league. I heard this too and just about fell off my seat.....which was alarming because I was driving at the time! It just shows the continuous denial that goes on in the heads of the Celtic-minded. They are oblivious to the offensive songs and the vandalism subjected on grounds like Fir Park, Dens Park and Tynecastle. Maybe the rest of us have dreamt it all. It would be more than welcome if they left for England, Ireland or any league that keeps them away from Scottish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 He IS the board unfortunately. Until the day somebody demands the commercial interests of Celtic and eventually Rangers again stop being the same thing as the 'health of Scottish football' the rest of us will continue to be insignificant . Thats what is mental, a guy who actively talks down the game in Scotland and the desire for his team to play in a non-Scottish league, gets given every position going and allowed to dictate things. Put it this way, if Rangers and Celtic moan about not enough money in Scotland requiring them to move abroad, how come they have not tried to do more when tv deals were under negotiation? Or looked to get someone better in to the run the SPFL/SPL who can bring about more money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 No one in the world wants the pair of scumbag teams polluting their air,I wish they could put them and their bigoted scum fans on an island and let them eat each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Them leaving the SPL would be the best thing to happen to scottish football. We would have one of the most competative leagues in European football, which would make the league more attractive to sponsors and tv. Attendances would rise, due to having something meaningful to play for than the usual non event of third, or as it is now, second place. And we wouldn't have to listen to anymore of their horrible songs or put up with the carnage they cause when in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Pipe dreams and more pipe dreams, it'll never happen, it's got absolutely zero chance of ever turning into anything, but let them waste time and money on it, deluded arseholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 At what point will the SFA deem Lawell's continual besmirching and disparaging of the game and league in Scotland worthy of a disrepute charge? its certainly a factor in our shite tv deal etc they should leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 No one in the world wants the pair of scumbag teams polluting their air,I wish they could put them and their bigoted scum fans on an island and let them eat each other I'm with this chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I remember when I was about 14 reading in the paper about the old firms imminent move to a European super league. I'm 28 now and it's further away than ever from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communist Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Does this not breach the "acting in good faith" of Scottish Football rule?..........or does that not apply to shellik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 btw its all very well saying only a small minority sing offensive songs but 3000 + fans sing these songs at Tynecastle, more at Ibrox - funny definition of a minority is he saying a few guys are just really loud or is it compared to the millions of Celtic fans across the Universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I might be stupid, but isn't there already an "elite" European league (the Champions League) and Celtic already get a chance to participate in it? There is also, if I remember rightly, a "secondary" European league (Europa League) that Celtic also get a chance to participate in. - From playing performances, Celtic are ranked 54th in Europe (although that will go up considerably if they do well in Europe next year). - From a crowd size perspective they are ranked 16th in Europe. They are hardly "giants" in European terms, and they are probably exactly where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 What they're essentially saying is "we'd like circumstances to change in a way that enables us to make more money", which is surely the case for every club on the planet. What's less common is a sycophantic media lapping it up. This sort of shite should be treated with the same disdain as the 39th game idea in England . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Pillaging Scottish football for all they can, whilst all the while aiming to leave it behind like a redundant mine. Disgusting approach, sadly typical of this capitalist society where profits are the only goal. Instead of talking-down Scottish football, they should be talking it up, and investing in the future of the game in this country. They think the rest of us are holding them back! They're holding us back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 a bit of a backlash against Lawwell for saying Celtic have had nothing to do with Irish Republicanism - Celtic fans piling in to complain online bit of a mirror of the Rangers Forum bigotry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'm with this chap. Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I've long since given up listening to words that come out of those two filthy organisations, but if it's about them leaving then can they get their finger out and feck off, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 btw its all very well saying only a small minority sing offensive songs but 3000 + fans sing these songs at Tynecastle, more at Ibrox - funny definition of a minority is he saying a few guys are just really loud or is it compared to the millions of Celtic fans across the Universe Is it not only a couple that sing these songs? They keep talking about those few fans that let them down. Maybe when they say a few they mean a few thousand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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