Hearts Heritage Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Historically Hearts after 22 league gamesWith the predicates of different leagues signing ban etc Scored 43 more goals conceded 25 less 1 1914-15 W19 D2 L1 F53 A13 591 1957-58 W19 D2 L1 F89 A15 593 2014-15 W18 D3 L1 F58 A14 57 123 123 1910-11 W4 D4 L14 F23 A42 16124 124 1980-81 W3 D5 L14 F18 A37 14125 125 2013-14 W3 D4 L15 F15 A39 13 (not deducting the 15 points) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 1957-58 must have been entertaining to watch. +74 goal difference after 22 games is pretty spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 1957-58 must have been entertaining to watch. +74 goal difference after 22 games is pretty spectacular. Picking game 22 from that season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scott_jambo Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 You forgot the bit where we are in a diddy league playing part-time mechanics, waiters etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 You forgot the bit where we are in a diddy league playing part-time mechanics, waiters etc... Yeah in 1958 the teams were pretty rubbish ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 1957-58 must have been entertaining to watch. +74 goal difference after 22 games is pretty spectacular. Hearts went on to establish the record for most goals scored in a season, which stands to this day. 132 goals scored in 34 games, 29 conceded, goal difference +103. We lost one game, to Clyde (who finished 4th). My mum was lucky enough to be supporting them at that time and still has programmes from that period. London Hearts can no doubt provide a full list, but I can remember from the previous results page in one of her programmes, we scored 9 goals twice that season, another game we hit 8 and at least once 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Jamie Walker, Sam Nicholson, Billy King have grown up and next season I think they will be even better. Is Gary McKay Stevens really any better than these 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 1957-58 must have been entertaining to watch. +74 goal difference after 22 games is pretty spectacular. Entertaining and spectacular to be sure. And the crowds at Tynecastle were massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hearts went on to establish the record for most goals scored in a season, which stands to this day. 132 goals scored in 34 games, 29 conceded, goal difference +103. We lost one game, to Clyde (who finished 4th). My mum was lucky enough to be supporting them at that time and still has programmes from that period. London Hearts can no doubt provide a full list, but I can remember from the previous results page in one of her programmes, we scored 9 goals twice that season, another game we hit 8 and at least once 7. Hearts scored an instance of 0 to 9 in at least one of their league games that season Sat 12 Oct 1957 Third Lanark 0 Hearts 0 19000 Sat 23 Nov 1957 Clyde 2 Hearts 1 18000 Sat 05 Apr 1958 Kilmarnock 1 Hearts 1 15865 Sat 02 Nov 1957 Hearts 2 Motherwell 2 30000 Sat 14 Dec 1957 Hearts 2 Kilmarnock 1 24000 Sat 28 Dec 1957 Celtic 0 Hearts 2 43000 Wed 01 Jan 1958 Hibernian 0 Hearts 2 49200 Wed 19 Mar 1958 Hearts 2 Clyde 2 34000 Wed 30 Apr 1958 Hearts 2 Rangers 1 30000 Sat 21 Sep 1957 Hearts 3 Hibernian 1 34000 Sat 26 Oct 1957 Rangers 2 Hearts 3 62000 Mon 11 Nov 1957 Partick Thistle 1 Hearts 3 12000 Sat 07 Dec 1957 Raith Rovers 0 Hearts 3 21000 Sat 18 Jan 1958 East Fife 0 Hearts 3 10000 Mon 10 Mar 1958 Hearts 3 Queen Of The South 1 11000 Sat 12 Apr 1958 St Mirren 2 Hearts 3 22000 Sat 19 Oct 1957 Hearts 4 Aberdeen 0 35000 Sat 09 Nov 1957 Queen Of The South 1 Hearts 4 9500 Thu 02 Jan 1958 Hearts 4 Airdrieonians 0 19000 Sat 11 Jan 1958 Hearts 4 Partick Thistle 1 22000 Sat 22 Feb 1958 Motherwell 0 Hearts 4 20000 Sat 08 Mar 1958 Queens Park 1 Hearts 4 8232 Sat 22 Mar 1958 Falkirk 0 Hearts 4 18000 Sat 29 Mar 1958 Hearts 4 Raith Rovers 1 9000 Wed 16 Apr 1958 Aberdeen 0 Hearts 4 12000 Sat 21 Dec 1957 Hearts 5 St Mirren 1 18000 Sat 04 Jan 1958 Dundee 0 Hearts 5 23000 Fri 14 Mar 1958 Hearts 5 Celtic 3 35000 Sat 07 Sep 1957 Hearts 6 Dundee 0 19700 Sat 14 Sep 1957 Airdrieonians 2 Hearts 7 14000 Sat 25 Jan 1958 Hearts 7 Third Lanark 2 17000 Sat 16 Nov 1957 Hearts 8 Queens Park 0 20000 Sat 05 Oct 1957 Hearts 9 East Fife 0 28000 Sat 30 Nov 1957 Hearts 9 Falkirk 1 25000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 With scorers Sat 12 Oct 1957 Third Lanark 0 Hearts 0 19000 -----Sat 23 Nov 1957 Clyde 2 Hearts 1 18000 Willie Bauld 84Sat 05 Apr 1958 Kilmarnock 1 Hearts 1 15865 Andy Bowman 31Sat 02 Nov 1957 Hearts 2 Motherwell 2 30000 Jimmy Wardhaugh 15 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 27Sat 14 Dec 1957 Hearts 2 Kilmarnock 1 24000 Dave Mackay 22 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 37Sat 28 Dec 1957 Celtic 0 Hearts 2 43000 Jimmy Wardhaugh 64 ;Alex Young 88Wed 01 Jan 1958 Hibernian 0 Hearts 2 49200 Alex Young 52 ;Dave Mackay 78Wed 19 Mar 1958 Hearts 2 Clyde 2 34000 Alex Young 70 ;Ian Crawford 88Wed 30 Apr 1958 Hearts 2 Rangers 1 30000 Jimmy Wardhaugh 64 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 89Sat 21 Sep 1957 Hearts 3 Hibernian 1 34000 Jimmy Wardhaugh 2 ;Ian Crawford 7 ;Jimmy Murray 24Sat 26 Oct 1957 Rangers 2 Hearts 3 62000 Jimmy Wardhaugh 45 ;Willie Bauld 49 ;Alex Young 67Mon 11 Nov 1957 Partick Thistle 1 Hearts 3 12000 Alex Young 10 ;John Cumming 13 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 43Sat 07 Dec 1957 Raith Rovers 0 Hearts 3 21000 Jimmy Wardhaugh 5 ;Jimmy Murray 11 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 57Sat 18 Jan 1958 East Fife 0 Hearts 3 10000 Alex Young 18 ;Johnny Hamilton 29 ;Johnny Hamilton 68Mon 10 Mar 1958 Hearts 3 Queen Of The South 1 11000 Jimmy Murray 37 ;Alec Smith og 87 ;Jimmy Milne pen 89Sat 12 Apr 1958 St Mirren 2 Hearts 3 22000 Alex Young 7 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 60 ;Alex Young 73Sat 19 Oct 1957 Hearts 4 Aberdeen 0 35000 Jimmy Murray 26 ;Jimmy Murray 43 ;Alex Young 75 ;Bobby Blackwood 83Sat 09 Nov 1957 Queen Of The South 1 Hearts 4 9500 Jimmy Murray 19 ;Jimmy Murray 33 ;John Cumming 53 ;Alex Young 62Thu 02 Jan 1958 Hearts 4 Airdrieonians 0 19000 Jimmy Murray 7 ;Jimmy Murray 22 ;Jimmy Murray 27 ;Dave Mackay pen 69Sat 11 Jan 1958 Hearts 4 Partick Thistle 1 22000 Jimmy Murray 14 ;Dave Mackay 16 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 29 ;Bobby Blackwood 43Sat 22 Feb 1958 Motherwell 0 Hearts 4 20000 Alfie Conn Snr 49 ;Jimmy Milne pen 67 ;Jimmy Murray 75 ;Alfie Conn Snr 86Sat 08 Mar 1958 Queens Park 1 Hearts 4 8232 Alfie Conn Snr 41 ;Alfie Conn Snr 53 ;Alex Young 60 ;Dave Mackay 89Sat 22 Mar 1958 Falkirk 0 Hearts 4 18000 Jimmy Murray 18 ;Ian Crawford 24 ;Jimmy Murray 34 ;Alex Young 60Sat 29 Mar 1958 Hearts 4 Raith Rovers 1 9000 Jimmy Murray 3 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 7 ;Jimmy Murray 26 ;Alex Young 34Wed 16 Apr 1958 Aberdeen 0 Hearts 4 12000 Ian Crawford 14 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 74 ;Alex Young 85 ;Andy Bowman 88Sat 21 Dec 1957 Hearts 5 St Mirren 1 18000 Jimmy Murray 7 ;Alex Young 27 ;Dave Mackay pen 39 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 72 ;Jimmy Murray 78Sat 04 Jan 1958 Dundee 0 Hearts 5 23000 Jimmy Wardhaugh 5 ;Jimmy Murray 13 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 51 ;Dave Mackay pen 65 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 78Fri 14 Mar 1958 Hearts 5 Celtic 3 35000 Ian Crawford 3 ;Bobby Blackwood 7 ;Ian Crawford 46 ;Jimmy Murray 52 ;Jimmy Murray 76Sat 07 Sep 1957 Hearts 6 Dundee 0 19700 Jimmy Murray 8 ;Willie Bauld 11 ;Ian Crawford 38 ;Bobby Kirk pen 54 ;Ian Crawford 62 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 70Sat 14 Sep 1957 Airdrieonians 2 Hearts 7 14000 Ian Crawford 4 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 14 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 15 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 27 ;Jimmy Murray 42 ;Ian Crawford 53 ;Bobby Kirk pen 58Sat 25 Jan 1958 Hearts 7 Third Lanark 2 17000 Alex Young 1 ;Bobby Blackwood 19 ;Jimmy Murray 25 ;Johnny Hamilton 38 ;Johnny Hamilton 50 ;Jimmy Milne pen 72 ;Jimmy Murray 86Sat 16 Nov 1957 Hearts 8 Queens Park 0 20000 Alex Young 10 ;Dave Mackay pen 40 ;Alex Young 44 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 49 ;Alex Young 54 ;John Cumming 58 ;John Cumming 75 ;Danny Paton 82Sat 05 Oct 1957 Hearts 9 East Fife 0 28000 Willie Bauld 24 ;Dave Mackay 25 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 34 ;John Cumming 53 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 58 ;Jimmy Murray 65 ;Willie Bauld 80 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 85 ;Alex Young 87Sat 30 Nov 1957 Hearts 9 Falkirk 1 25000 Dave Mackay 6 ;Jimmy Wardhaugh 23 ;Dave Mackay pen 30 ;Alex Young 55 ;Dave Mackay 63 ;Alex Young 69 ;Jimmy Murray 70 ;Alex Young 73 ;Alex Young 82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChunkyCharlie Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Entertaining and spectacular to be sure. And the crowds at Tynecastle were massive. What sort of attendances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Jamie Walker, Sam Nicholson, Billy King have grown up and next season I think they will be even better. Is Gary McKay Stevens really any better than these 3? I'd be pretty happy if we swapped any of those 3 for GMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hearts scored an instance of 0 to 9 in at least one of their league games that season Sat 12 Oct 1957 Third Lanark 0 Hearts 0 19000 Sat 23 Nov 1957 Clyde 2 Hearts 1 18000 Sat 05 Apr 1958 Kilmarnock 1 Hearts 1 15865 Sat 02 Nov 1957 Hearts 2 Motherwell 2 30000 Sat 14 Dec 1957 Hearts 2 Kilmarnock 1 24000 Sat 28 Dec 1957 Celtic 0 Hearts 2 43000 Wed 01 Jan 1958 Hibernian 0 Hearts 2 49200 Wed 19 Mar 1958 Hearts 2 Clyde 2 34000 Wed 30 Apr 1958 Hearts 2 Rangers 1 30000 Sat 21 Sep 1957 Hearts 3 Hibernian 1 34000 Sat 26 Oct 1957 Rangers 2 Hearts 3 62000 Mon 11 Nov 1957 Partick Thistle 1 Hearts 3 12000 Sat 07 Dec 1957 Raith Rovers 0 Hearts 3 21000 Sat 18 Jan 1958 East Fife 0 Hearts 3 10000 Mon 10 Mar 1958 Hearts 3 Queen Of The South 1 11000 Sat 12 Apr 1958 St Mirren 2 Hearts 3 22000 Sat 19 Oct 1957 Hearts 4 Aberdeen 0 35000 Sat 09 Nov 1957 Queen Of The South 1 Hearts 4 9500 Thu 02 Jan 1958 Hearts 4 Airdrieonians 0 19000 Sat 11 Jan 1958 Hearts 4 Partick Thistle 1 22000 Sat 22 Feb 1958 Motherwell 0 Hearts 4 20000 Sat 08 Mar 1958 Queens Park 1 Hearts 4 8232 Sat 22 Mar 1958 Falkirk 0 Hearts 4 18000 Sat 29 Mar 1958 Hearts 4 Raith Rovers 1 9000 Wed 16 Apr 1958 Aberdeen 0 Hearts 4 12000 Sat 21 Dec 1957 Hearts 5 St Mirren 1 18000 Sat 04 Jan 1958 Dundee 0 Hearts 5 23000 Fri 14 Mar 1958 Hearts 5 Celtic 3 35000 Sat 07 Sep 1957 Hearts 6 Dundee 0 19700 Sat 14 Sep 1957 Airdrieonians 2 Hearts 7 14000 Sat 25 Jan 1958 Hearts 7 Third Lanark 2 17000 Sat 16 Nov 1957 Hearts 8 Queens Park 0 20000 Sat 05 Oct 1957 Hearts 9 East Fife 0 28000 Sat 30 Nov 1957 Hearts 9 Falkirk 1 25000 Only managed the old 5-1 once though, disappointing!! Still, max points against Celtic, Rangers and Hibs is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Only managed the old 5-1 once though, disappointing!! Still, max points against Celtic, Rangers and Hibs is cool. Won 3-2 at Ibrox from 2-0 down.in Oct then 2-0 at Celtic in December followed by 'double' over Hibs on 1st Jan. League effectively won then. Though 'chucking' away the title in BOTH 1954 and 1957 was very fresh in the fans minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Historically Hearts after 22 league games With the predicates of different leagues signing ban etc You forgot the bit where we are in a diddy league playing part-time mechanics, waiters etc... Eh? Either you're being sarcastic (which doesn't come across very well in written form), wide or monumentally dim but I think 12August1893 has covered that perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Great stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I'd be pretty happy if we swapped any of those 3 for GMS.[/quote Woodje aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast No Shadow Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 When you look back at football footage from the '50s and '60s etc the standard looks absolutely gash, but I suppose it was all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 When you look back at football footage from the '50s and '60s etc the standard looks absolutely gash, but I suppose it was all relative. You should look at scottish clubs records in europe during this time, particularly teams like dunfermline and dundee. Different times my man but they certainly were not gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast No Shadow Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 You should look at scottish clubs records in europe during this time, particularly teams like dunfermline and dundee. Different times my man but they certainly were not gash. Yeah, but the standard overseas was woeful as well in comparison to today. Players smoked and drunk the night before games in those days ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yeah, but the standard overseas was woeful as well in comparison to today. Players smoked and drunk the night before games in those days ffs. Aye fair enough the Real Madrid team from the 50's were pure gash and that Di stefano bloke was honking! Got news for you buddy a lot of guys still smoke (look no further than our last cup winning captain) and drink (Gazza & Rangers team when they were ripping up the SPL for fun). Doubt very much many of the players from back then were also sticking a proportion of their wages up their noses either! The world has changed massively since back then, the football was different but the best players still made it to the top and the standard in Scottish football was much closer to the top leagues than the gulf that exists now. Anyway, we are way off topic now. Guess we have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 A year today since we lost against 9 men ICT in the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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