Clerry Jambo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I remember reading reports from U20 games about McHattie appearing a bit disinterested? Could this be Robbie "avin a word" http://www.edinburgh...tient-1-3589799 ROBBIE NEILSON has told Kevin McHattie that he will regain a starting place with Hearts should he remain ?patient and motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Fair enough. I don't think McHattie should be an automatic starter. Good talent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Think Robbie is basically telling McHattie that's he's been crusing along with no competition for his place and now he has competition. McHattie needs to react appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bell Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Think Robbie is basically telling McHattie that's he's been crusing along with no competition for his place and now he has competition. McHattie needs to react appropriately. Absolutely, nothing wrong with a wee reality check for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 A wee boot up the star does us all good from time to time. Not that I think McHattie needed one to be fair to him, I actually think he's a better player than Eckersley, but he now knows if his form drops or he gets himself silly suspensions it might take a bit of time getting back into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Prior to his injury I thought we were seeing him raise his game, certainly put the work on in the gym and was getting forward well.Even his tackling was improving, probably as a result of some good coaching. Nothing wrong with competition but still a wee bit unlucky not to be first choice again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think we are a better team with McHattie in it. His link up play with Nicholson is excellent and gives us much more going forward than eckersley provides. I also don't believe that eckersley is that much better a defender even though it seems to be the general opinion on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think we are a better team with McHattie in it. His link up play with Nicholson is excellent and gives us much more going forward than eckersley provides. I also don't believe that eckersley is that much better a defender even though it seems to be the general opinion on here. Thanks Sam (Nicholson the surname is it?) ...................I agree with all of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think we are a better team with McHattie in it. His link up play with Nicholson is excellent and gives us much more going forward than eckersley provides. I also don't believe that eckersley is that much better a defender even though it seems to be the general opinion on here. personally I think Eckersley is better defensively in terms of his awareness and I think Neilson has edged him in because of this. McHattie can tackle given the opportunity but I've always thought he's lacked in positional awareness and was often caught out. People will argue he needs games to improve that but sometimes a seat on the sidelines to take stock helps as much too. Watch and learn as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I rate McHattie and I think he's got a big future at the club but he (and the other youngsters) have been quite fortunate in terms of how many appearances they've made at such an early stage in their career due to the circumstances at the club; most players aren't that lucky. It's good there's competition for places now and he's fortunate to have someone like Eckersley to learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 See the difference in how our last 2 managers have handled situations,its like night and day. Superb management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 McHattie's positional sense has always been utterly abysmal. Also poor at tackling. A really average defender. The myth of him being outstanding grows the longer he sits on the bench. I've also read countless posts on here criticising Eckersley no matter how well he plays. Kickback eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 McHattie is strong going forward but poor in defence. Eckersley is poor going forward but strong in defence. Both good players in their own right but neither the complete left back. McHattie will hopefully develop that defensive side with time and good coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 They are both more than capable, and preferring one over the other should mot always result in one being branded outstanding and the other shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 McHattie is strong going forward but poor in defence. Eckersley is poor going forward but strong in defence. Both good players in their own right but neither the complete left back. McHattie will hopefully develop that defensive side with time and good coaching. I remember when our DOF was manager and he said he wanted his defenders to defend and occasionally go forward rather than the other way round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arse 'Friends' Dyslexic? Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 McHattie is strong going forward but poor in defence. Eckersley is poor going forward but strong in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 mchattie is 21 and doesnt have to work on much of his game to make him a very effective spl left back. eckerslie is 29 and just signed for a championship club in scotland. frankly, i know who my money is on being hearts left back in two years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the geezer Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Eck has shown his experience but Mchattie will come back stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonbury jambo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Great management...Mchattie has to now prove himself beyond doubt and rise to the occasion, we will now see what mchatts is made of in the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 McHattie's positional sense has always been utterly abysmal. Also poor at tackling. A really average defender. The myth of him being outstanding grows the longer he sits on the bench. I've also read countless posts on here criticising Eckersley no matter how well he plays. Kickback eh Spot on. McHattie's defending is terrible and he offers little more than Eckersley going forward either. His delivery is poor to average in most cases. Eckersley looks a far better player for me right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Eckersley has the jersey at the moment and has done nothing to suggest he deserves to be dropped in favour of McHattie. McHattie will have to bide his time and wait for his opportunity to get back into the first team, then put on displays that justify him keeping his place ahead of Eckersley. It's what competition for places is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 McHattie's positional sense has always been utterly abysmal. Also poor at tackling. A really average defender. The myth of him being outstanding grows the longer he sits on the bench. I've also read countless posts on here criticising Eckersley no matter how well he plays. Kickback eh Sorry but thats absolute shite . Both good players. McHatties positional sense has improved greatly and he can tackle, dearie me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Sorry but thats absolute shite . Both good players. McHatties positional sense has improved greatly and he can tackle, dearie me. the law of averages says that if you do something often enough then you'll get it right every so often...McHattie dives in at every opportunity given and hence will occasionally win the ball lawfully...rarely stands his man...he has improved a little but more of a reflection on how god awful he has been for 2 years...thank god we have someone who can compete for the position after our woes of late in terms of lack of competition for places prior to the summer...defending is easier if you stand tall and strong and jockey your opponent as oppose to selling yourself by sliding in with last ditch challenges due to your ineffective positional awareness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Fair enough. I don't think McHattie should be an automatic starter. Good talent though. I think he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 the law of averages says that if you do something often enough then you'll get it right every so often...McHattie dives in at every opportunity given and hence will occasionally win the ball lawfully...rarely stands his man...he has improved a little but more of a reflection on how god awful he has been for 2 years...thank god we have someone who can compete for the position after our woes of late in terms of lack of competition for places prior to the summer...defending is easier if you stand tall and strong and jockey your opponent as oppose to selling yourself by sliding in with last ditch challenges due to your ineffective positional awareness... Completely disagree, god awful?! Come on eh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 the law of averages says that if you do something often enough then you'll get it right every so often...McHattie dives in at every opportunity given and hence will occasionally win the ball lawfully...rarely stands his man...he has improved a little but more of a reflection on how god awful he has been for 2 years...thank god we have someone who can compete for the position after our woes of late in terms of lack of competition for places prior to the summer...defending is easier if you stand tall and strong and jockey your opponent as oppose to selling yourself by sliding in with last ditch challenges due to your ineffective positional awareness... only bit of our post I agee with is its good to have competition for place. he is a good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Moysey Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 As has been alluded to already both are good players. Some people spout rubbish about McHattie being this or that but it is their opinion. Fact is McHattie is a good developing player. His performances this season had been improving, then picked up an injury and lost his place. He is having to win it back - fair enough. Eckersley is a 6/10 player he will never be outstanding but will not let down badly either. (Similar to how R N was) His one area to improve imo so far is his heading ability as demonstrated v QOS and Alloa. Just wish so called experts on here would have a more balanced view and not just jump in using subjective nonsense like "wage thief", "utterly abysmal"or "Bombscare" as has been dished out to El Has, Paterson, Wilson,McKay, King and McHattie of late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 As has been alluded to already both are good players. Some people spout rubbish about McHattie being this or that but it is their opinion. Fact is McHattie is a good developing player. His performances this season had been improving, then picked up an injury and lost his place. He is having to win it back - fair enough. Eckersley is a 6/10 player he will never be outstanding but will not let down badly either. (Similar to how R N was) His one area to improve imo so far is his heading ability as demonstrated v QOS and Alloa.Just wish so called experts on here would have a more balanced view and not just jump in using subjective nonsense like "wage thief", "utterly abysmal"or "Bombscare" as has been dished out to El Has, Paterson, Wilson,McKay, King and McHattie of late! Spot on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 As has been alluded to already both are good players. Some people spout rubbish about McHattie being this or that but it is their opinion. Fact is McHattie is a good developing player. His performances this season had been improving, then picked up an injury and lost his place. He is having to win it back - fair enough. Eckersley is a 6/10 player he will never be outstanding but will not let down badly either. (Similar to how R N was) His one area to improve imo so far is his heading ability as demonstrated v QOS and Alloa.Just wish so called experts on here would have a more balanced view and not just jump in using subjective nonsense like "wage thief", "utterly abysmal"or "Bombscare" as has been dished out to El Has, Paterson, Wilson,McKay, King and McHattie of late! Err nope. "Good developing player" is subjective too I'm afraid, whether emboldened or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 the law of averages says that if you do something often enough then you'll get it right every so often...McHattie dives in at every opportunity given and hence will occasionally win the ball lawfully...rarely stands his man...he has improved a little but more of a reflection on how god awful he has been for 2 years...thank god we have someone who can compete for the position after our woes of late in terms of lack of competition for places prior to the summer...defending is easier if you stand tall and strong and jockey your opponent as oppose to selling yourself by sliding in with last ditch challenges due to your ineffective positional awareness... Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 It's a shame some people make their mind up about a player and that's that. God awful.... That's still making me chuckle. If he was so bad he wouldn't be there. I trust the management, they've got the vast majority if decisions right so far. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 This will get the best out of McHattie. Smart management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Spot on. McHattie's defending is terrible and he offers little more than Eckersley going forward either. His delivery is poor to average in most cases. Eckersley looks a far better player for me right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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