Marvin Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 My mate is a massive(ish) Hun and of course I'm a lifelong Hearts fan. We have been discussing which set of supporters hates their rivals the most. The hatred between the OF is well documented but I think since 1994 the Hobbits hatred and seethe towards us has eclipsed that of the OF. And its purely down to the aborted Mercer takeover of hibs (even though everyone knows the late Hearts owner saved them) and of course Hearts' dominance in the Edinburgh derby. But my mate refuses to see that point of view and insists its the OF. So what is everyone's opinion this subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 nope I'd say Of is much more severe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz the postie Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't hate hibs,I think they're funny,probably the best derby opponents you could wish for. Many of my fellow workers/ friends are hibbys,they're brill. The banter of going back to work after yet another win is tops,winning most games makes this a usual occurance. I don't however have much time for the weegies,I enjoy their derbys when they kick ten bells out of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hibs are like a wee pet.. How could you hate anyone that's brought us so much joy... I doubt the feeling is mutual, but the old firm or whatever it is now is much much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Got to say don't hate the hibs it's more of a pity I have towards them ,except for when the games on the bigot brothers hatred of each other however is a constant and is far greater IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There hasn't been a 'Glasgow Derby' in three years since The Rangers were born? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There hasn't been a 'Glasgow Derby' in three years since The Rangers were born? Past 2 seasons Partick vs Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooth11 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't hate hibs,I think they're funny,probably the best derby opponents you could wish for. Many of my fellow workers/ friends are hibbys,they're brill. The banter of going back to work after yet another win is tops,winning most games makes this a usual occurance. I don't however have much time for the weegies,I enjoy their derbys when they kick ten bells out of each other. I wouldn't say we have a friendlier derby, but both sets of Edinburgh fans realise it's a game and that only. The bigot brothers take their hatred more deeper than that, from every aspect. We as hearts fans say we are pride of Edinburgh, whereas the old firm kinda forget about Glasgow and go more into ireland/Britain, catholic/protestant and bring stuff that's got nothing to do with football into their derbies. So in my opinion our derbies are better as they are for footballing reasons and that only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Past 2 seasons Partick vs Celtic You know fine well, and as the OP stated, it was regarding Celtic & The Rangers ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 You know fine well, and as the OP stated, it was regarding Celtic & The Rangers ;-) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooth11 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's also worth noting a fair few of our fans hate rangers and Celtic more than they hate hibs (or I do amyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's also worth noting a fair few of our fans hate rangers and Celtic more than they hate hibs (or I do amyway) I am 100% in this camp, always have been too....I wouldnt even use the word hate with Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ortarkod Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Anyone who doesn't hate Hibs isn't a proper Hearts man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Was there a Celtic fan that spent 10 years of his life trying to bring down Rangers? They despise us with the burning fury of a thousand suns and it infuriates them even more that we just pat them on the head and give it the oh you, before slapping them down like the pathetic, snivelling welts they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboman1512 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 it's definitely the of (rip). I love h1b5, they have provided me with some of the best and funniest moments in football, the hilarious way they got relegated had me laughing so hard i could barley breathe and we all know how great 1-5 was and continues to be, they definitely hate us though, years of dominance by us has turned them into a seething mass of putrid green and white sheite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Was there a Celtic fan that spent 10 years of his life trying to bring down Rangers? They despise us with the burning fury of a thousand suns and it infuriates them even more that we just pat them on the head and give it the oh you, before slapping them down like the pathetic, snivelling welts they are. They've got that Phil MacGiollabhain crackpot to contend with. He even writes books about his club's rivals ffs. There's a few Celtic fans who do that sort of stuff. Rangers fans would probably do the same in return if any of them were capable of reading and writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 They've got that Phil MacGiollabhain crackpot to contend with. He even writes books about his club's rivals ffs. There's a few Celtic fans who do that sort of stuff. Rangers fans would probably do the same in return if any of them were capable of reading and writing. Ah yes, I forgot about that particular fantasist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 it's definitely the of (rip). I love h1b5, they have provided me with some of the best and funniest moments in football, the hilarious way they got relegated had me laughing so hard i could barley breathe and we all know how great 1-5 was and continues to be, they definitely hate us though, years of dominance by us has turned them into a seething mass of putrid green and white sheite. I actually thought I was going to pass out I was laughing so hard. Hibs are, as many have said, the gift that keeps on giving, I could never really hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Stabbing and domestic abuse increases on old firm day. Don't think I've heard similar said about Edinburgh Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have encountered some real bitterness, vitriol and hatred from a few vermin I know. Our perceived financial cheating, allied to the ongoing total derby domination and our Scottish Cup wins (obv. inc 5-1) has really, really affected these chumps. No doubt about it whatsoever. Some of them have true hatred of us. Very few Hearts fans have real hatred for them. There's no reason to hate a source of such joy. **** the weegies. Couldn't give a monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Stabbing and domestic abuse increases on old firm day. Don't think I've heard similar said about Edinburgh Derby I remember that, forgot when I originally posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Meh Southampton vs Portsmouth is worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ps. They really hate Rudi Skacel. I'm sometimes surprised at how much venom there is about him. Much more so than Robbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Of personal preference imo. I hate Hibs more than anyone else. They've glorified in Albert Kidd etc...for so long, wanted us extinct with great passion, I've worked beside all sets of fans and there's no one more bitter and deluded than Hibs fans when it comes to football, even though I can't stand the Old Firms constant arrogance. The big cup win over H1b5 was the icing on a 26 year long baked cake. Not so much Albert Kidd sheight out them these days. It's easy for us to be cocky as we've so much dominance over them but that's the warning. Never get too comfy and always revel in the next win over them. I want another 22 in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Meh Southampton vs Portsmouth is worse Raise you Bristol City v Bristol Rovers, makes the OF one look like a girly bitch fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have encountered some real bitterness, vitriol and hatred from a few vermin I know. Our perceived financial cheating, allied to the ongoing total derby domination and our Scottish Cup wins (obv. inc 5-1) has really, really affected these chumps. No doubt about it whatsoever. Some of them have true hatred of us. Very few Hearts fans have real hatred for them. There's no reason to hate a source of such joy. **** the weegies. Couldn't give a monkeys. I wonder how this would have turned out in the 70s. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I wouldn't say we have a friendlier derby, but both sets of Edinburgh fans realise it's a game and that only. The bigot brothers take their hatred more deeper than that, from every aspect. We as hearts fans say we are pride of Edinburgh, whereas the old firm kinda forget about Glasgow and go more into ireland/Britain, catholic/protestant and bring stuff that's got nothing to do with football into their derbies. So in my opinion our derbies are better as they are for footballing reasons and that only If you're going down that road what does "Edinburgh" as an entity have to do with football? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 They've got that Phil MacGiollabhain crackpot to contend with. He even writes books about his club's rivals ffs. There's a few Celtic fans who do that sort of stuff. Rangers fans would probably do the same in return if any of them were capable of reading and writing. So Celtic fans are inherently more intelligent? Really? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poultry Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I think in the last few tears the most hated game in Scotland has been the Famous v septic, at least that's what it feels like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If it wasn't for the internet, there would be less acrimony between Hearts fans and Hibs fans. However, the internet is a reality and, my attitude to Hibs has definitely changed because of the stuff tat went on over the past few seasons, particularly. I would not compare us with the Cheeks in Glasgow, because it's more a Big Toe Pinkie Toe relationship through here. No matter how het up the wee toe gets, it's wee toe and will always be so! Mind you, given a few million years, the wee toe could evolve into an elephant's trunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockcroc Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's also worth noting a fair few of our fans hate rangers and Celtic more than they hate hibs (or I do amyway) I don't understand why this is, hibs hate us with a vengeance, they wanted us dead, buried and totally erased from the face of the planet, they are totally obsessed to the point that some prick spent 10 years of his sad life trying to destroy us. The OF are a bit of an irrelevance to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooth11 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Delete - ersed up the quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't understand why this is, hibs hate us with a vengeance, they wanted us dead, buried and totally erased from the face of the planet, they are totally obsessed to the point that some prick spent 10 years of his sad life trying to destroy us. The OF are a bit of an irrelevance to us. That was the basis of my topic. I used to hate the OF more than hibs, but because of their (fans) actions during our administration I now wish them obliterated from the planet and will piss my self when administration comes knocking on their door. I have huge respect for all the other teams who have helped us during this very rocky time for our famous old club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Raise you Bristol City v Bristol Rovers, makes the OF one look like a girly bitch fight or City v Cardiff those games are just like what the Hearts v Aberdeen games used to be like (circa 1970s and 1980s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schillaci Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If the Edinburgh teams came anywhere close what I see here in Glasgow I would never have anything to do with Hearts (and therefore Scottish football) again. The things I have witnessed in the ten years I have lived here are staggering. (I work in the health service.) I saw nothing like it in 15 years working in Edinburgh. Even when one or two try to draw on past "connections" that we really don't have, it as a bunch of amateurs compared to the West. We do have a meaningful club history but it is related to stories that make Jeremy Paxman bring the BBC to Tynecastle, not UEFA threaten investigations and sanctions. Hibs are much closer to us than they are to any other team in Scotland. We are more rival siblings, than clans with a blood feud. And even better that we are always going to be the big brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't understand why this is, hibs hate us with a vengeance, they wanted us dead, buried and totally erased from the face of the planet, they are totally obsessed to the point that some prick spent 10 years of his sad life trying to destroy us. The OF are a bit of an irrelevance to us. Because it shows how right and fair thinking they are. We don't hate our rivals or anyone really apart from the big bad old firm. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hate is for the stunted. Hearts and Hibs enjoy a generally healthy rivalry. Aye, there's some a-holes on both sides but not enough to skew it too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imeantasong Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If the Edinburgh teams came anywhere close what I see here in Glasgow I would never have anything to do with Hearts (and therefore Scottish football) again. The things I have witnessed in the ten years I have lived here are staggering. (I work in the health service.) I saw nothing like it in 15 years working in Edinburgh. Even when one or two try to draw on past "connections" that we really don't have, it as a bunch of amateurs compared to the West. We do have a meaningful club history but it is related to stories that make Jeremy Paxman bring the BBC to Tynecastle, not UEFA threaten investigations and sanctions. Hibs are much closer to us than they are to any other team in Scotland. We are more rival siblings, than clans with a blood feud. And even better that we are always going to be the big brother. Moved long before you did, and agree entirely. The patronising 'friendship' from one side, the total non belief from the other you're not interested in the religion thing nor you always want Rangers to win. Even the more sensible ones, when they get together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 That was the basis of my topic. I used to hate the OF more than hibs, but because of their (fans) actions during our administration I now wish them obliterated from the planet and will piss my self when administration comes knocking on their door. I have huge respect for all the other teams who have helped us during this very rocky time for our famous old club. To be fair if you'd previously based hatred of a club on the behaviour of the noisiest fans at matches Hibs would have been right up there. I'm not convinced basing it on the most extreme arseholes on an internet forum, as both sides tend to do, is any more representative. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 They hate us more than we hate them, imo. I do, in a footballing sense, hate them, but that hate is diluted with scorn and ridicule. As others have suggested, they're just too damned funny, weird and ridiculous to hate with the seething rage many of them have toward us. The derby has provided at least half of my favourite Hearts games/memories over the years, particularly the pre-trophy winning days of the 80's and early 90's. It's no coincidence that Hearts fans won the hater contest in the 70's when H1b5 dominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockcroc Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Because it shows how right and fair thinking they are. We don't hate our rivals or anyone really apart from the big bad old firm. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Before our administration I would have seen hibs as a team( club) to be an irrelevance but last year totally changed it for me, I want that club to die now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imeantasong Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Mind you, I was at school during the 70s, and I won't forget what it was like then either. FTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Before our administration I would have seen hibs as a team( club) to be an irrelevance but last year totally changed it for me, I want that club to die now. I can understand that but it doesn't fit with "right minded" thinking. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 They hate us more than we hate them, imo. I do, in a footballing sense, hate them, but that hate is diluted with scorn and ridicule. As others have suggested, they're just too damned funny, weird and ridiculous to hate with the seething rage many of them have toward us. The derby has provided at least half of my favourite Hearts games/memories over the years, particularly the pre-trophy winning days of the 80's and early 90's. It's no coincidence that Hearts fans won the hater contest in the 70's when H1b5 dominated. ...The hatred between Celtic and Rangers goes way beyond what is normal and, despite H1b5 fans best efforts recently, I hope the Edinburgh derby never goes the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I can understand that but it doesn't fit with "right minded" thinking. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 It isn't a case of being PC, for the sake of it, more a maturity to rise above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It isn't a case of being PC, for the sake of it, more a maturity to rise above it. Rise above what? Hating your rivals? Most football fans would see nothing wrong with that. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Rise above what? Hating your rivals? Most football fans would see nothing wrong with that. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 The reference was to wanting the club dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hibs are like that dog you can't help but love despite its bad habits. It shits on your carpet and eats the dinner off the counter when your backs turned but you just whip it with the newspaper and rub its nose in it. It gives you years of joy and loves nothing more than rolling over and having its tummy tickled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restonbabe Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If you're going down that road what does "Edinburgh" as an entity have to do with football? Hearts are one of the 11 leagues founding members of Scotland. We were the club to implement the penalty kick as we know it today. We are the only club to win the scottish cup outside of Glasgow. Hibs helped set up Dundee united. cant forget St bernards in anything mentioned as they won a few scottish cups. Along with Spartans today. Edinburgh is steeped in footballing history. Hope that answered your question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 We didn't 'implement' the penalty kick. It was our 'despicable' action of 'fisting the ball out' in the Cup QF that caused the SFA to support the football law change proposed by Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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