CJGJ Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Aberdeen have accused Celtic's Bulgarian winger Aleksander Tonev of racial abuse directed at their defender Shay Logan. Referee Bobby Madden received the complaint which will also feature in SPFL delegate John Connelly's report. The incident is said to have occurred early in the second half of Saturday's Premiership match at Celtic Park. BBC Scotland has approached Celtic for comment on the matter but the club has yet to make a statement. The Scottish Football Association expects to receive the report on Monday, following which the compliance officer will decide what action it should take. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29197915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loganjambo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Aberdeen have accused Celtic's Bulgarian winger Aleksander Tonev of racial abuse directed at their defender Shay Logan. Referee Bobby Madden received the complaint which will also feature in SPFL delegate John Connelly's report. The incident is said to have occurred early in the second half of Saturday's Premiership match at Celtic Park. BBC Scotland has approached Celtic for comment on the matter but the club has yet to make a statement. The Scottish Football Association expects to receive the report on Monday, following which the compliance officer will decide what action it should take. http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/29197915 smeltic will play the victim card here, dons player shay logan to get 3 game ban nap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 No comment from Celtic, quelle surprise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The thumb wearing off on the new lad I see. Disgusting bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks No Deid Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I reckon carpets, sweepers etc.. will be the next step? Nothing to see here, do you not know how politically correct they are about absolutely everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The thumb wearing off on the new lad I see. Disgusting bunch. On that topic, how long does it take for the police to look at you tube to decide that Griffiths is a racist," I saw it once, it was him and he was singing it," the police have been deciding what to do about this racist since April, and of course our football authorities have said they can't take any action until the police have made a decision. Are they hoping we are all just going to forget about this ?..Celtic know that if he is proven guilty they are going to have to take action, and a lot of there fans will want rid, only months after spending about 800k for his signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockcroc Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The GFA will investigate no doubt and then after a few months when everybody's forgotten about it the verdict will be unproven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Mywords Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 We are still waiting on Griffith's being punished 6 months after the incident.... and that was with video evidence. The broom will be back in action again I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 He is not the only racist to play for Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The GFA will investigate no doubt and then after a few months when everybody's forgotten about it the verdict will be unproven. Have they met over Griffiths charge yet? Dont remember any verdict coming from that. edit: just seen that it hasn't. That is mad, how can you have such a slow system like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks No Deid Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 We are still waiting on Griffith's being punished 6 months after the incident.... and that was with video evidence. The broom will be back in action again I feel. exactly - the silence on this is deafening. How long does this investigation take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Celtic will get on touch with the authorities and say sorry about that we'll have a word with him and that will be the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The so called anti fascist peace club will take action accordingly I hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Have they met over Griffiths charge yet? Dont remember any verdict coming from that. edit: just seen that it hasn't. That is mad, how can you have such a slow system like this. Can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but to be fair to the SPFL/SFA, they are waiting on the outcome of the police investigation before conducting their own. They can't be seen to potentially prejudice an active police investigation by conducting their own and having an outcome. Same rule of thumb applied down South when the FA had to wait for the police to conclude before investigating John Terry over his spat with Anton Ferdinand. I just hope that the cops get their finger out soon though as it's been dragging on for a ridiculous amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Unless anyone else has heard the comments, it's going to be difficult to prove what was said? Can't see the Compliance Officer getting involved-he only reacts to incidents caught on TV camera's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but to be fair to the SPFL/SFA, they are waiting on the outcome of the police investigation before conducting their own. They can't be seen to potentially prejudice an active police investigation by conducting their own and having an outcome. Same rule of thumb applied down South when the FA had to wait for the police to conclude before investigating John Terry over his spat with Anton Ferdinand. I just hope that the cops get their finger out soon though as it's been dragging on for a ridiculous amount of time. ah right, did not know there was a police investigation that was on going. If thats the case they will report next year on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks No Deid Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but to be fair to the SPFL/SFA, they are waiting on the outcome of the police investigation before conducting their own. They can't be seen to potentially prejudice an active police investigation by conducting their own and having an outcome. Same rule of thumb applied down South when the FA had to wait for the police to conclude before investigating John Terry over his spat with Anton Ferdinand. I just hope that the cops get their finger out soon though as it's been dragging on for a ridiculous amount of time. I'm as amazed as you are mate - polis look at the video, see him doing what he did....jeez ..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnbelievableJeff Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but to be fair to the SPFL/SFA, they are waiting on the outcome of the police investigation before conducting their own. They can't be seen to potentially prejudice an active police investigation by conducting their own and having an outcome. Same rule of thumb applied down South when the FA had to wait for the police to conclude before investigating John Terry over his spat with Anton Ferdinand. I just hope that the cops get their finger out soon though as it's been dragging on for a ridiculous amount of time. Police report is complete weeks ago and papers are with the Crown office awaiting a decision on whether to prosecute or not. Pretty sure some erse singing a naughty song in a boozer won't be at the top of the list of priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Find it hard to believe the Aberdeen player would make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Celtic have denied an allegation that Aleksandar Tonev racially abused Aberdeen's Shay Logan during Saturday's Premiership match. Dons defender Logan reported the alleged second-half incident immediately to referee Bobby Madden and skipper Mark Reynolds before informing manager Derek McInnes. Fourth official Crawford Allan and Celtic were also made aware of the allegation by the Dons management team. A Celtic spokesman issued a statement to Sky Sports News HQ on Sunday which read: "We have spoken to the player and he has stated that the accusation made is not true." The Scottish FA is awaiting the referee's report which should arrive on Monday. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9470526/scottish-premiership-celtic-deny-aberdeen-allegations-of-racism-against-aleksandar-tonev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Celtic have denied an allegation that Aleksandar Tonev racially abused Aberdeen's Shay Logan during Saturday's Premiership match. Dons defender Logan reported the alleged second-half incident immediately to referee Bobby Madden and skipper Mark Reynolds before informing manager Derek McInnes. Fourth official Crawford Allan and Celtic were also made aware of the allegation by the Dons management team. A Celtic spokesman issued a statement to Sky Sports News HQ on Sunday which read: "We have spoken to the player and he has stated that the accusation made is not true." The Scottish FA is awaiting the referee's report which should arrive on Monday. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9470526/scottish-premiership-celtic-deny-aberdeen-allegations-of-racism-against-aleksandar-tonev That'll be that then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Celtic have denied an allegation that Aleksandar Tonev racially abused Aberdeen's Shay Logan during Saturday's Premiership match. Dons defender Logan reported the alleged second-half incident immediately to referee Bobby Madden and skipper Mark Reynolds before informing manager Derek McInnes. Fourth official Crawford Allan and Celtic were also made aware of the allegation by the Dons management team. A Celtic spokesman issued a statement to Sky Sports News HQ on Sunday which read: "We have spoken to the player and he has stated that the accusation made is not true." The Scottish FA is awaiting the referee's report which should arrive on Monday. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9470526/scottish-premiership-celtic-deny-aberdeen-allegations-of-racism-against-aleksandar-tonev He's not likely to admit to being a racist scumbag though, is he? If he is guilty I hope a camera has caught the incident and suitable punishment is forthcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sweep, and indeed, sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Given that the Scottish authorities not only tolerate but actively encourage sectarianism, can't see why they would worry too much about a bit of racism. The lack of action over Griffiths is evidence of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Jambo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 As some posters have already said it will very hard to prove unless some one else has heard what was said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Given that the Scottish authorities not only tolerate but actively encourage sectarianism, can't see why they would worry too much about a bit of racism. The lack of action over Griffiths is evidence of that. As has been covered already on this thread, the SPFL/SFA can't do anything until the Cops/Crown conclude their side of things, so as not to prejudice any potential criminal case. A bit lilt the John Terry v Anton Ferdinand scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Ingram Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Not impossible it was heard by other players but as mentioned, that would be absolutely necessary for anything to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Clearly Shay Logan's fault... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Clearly Shay Logan's fault... 3 game ban for logan for daring to call a celtic player a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairneyhill Jambo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but to be fair to the SPFL/SFA, they are waiting on the outcome of the police investigation before conducting their own. They can't be seen to potentially prejudice an active police investigation by conducting their own and having an outcome. Same rule of thumb applied down South when the FA had to wait for the police to conclude before investigating John Terry over his spat with Anton Ferdinand. I just hope that the cops get their finger out soon though as it's been dragging on for a ridiculous amount of time. Duncan Ferguson was given his 12 match ban for headbutting John McStay before his case went to court. Not saying its right or wrong, but a precedence was set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 By gosh I am stunned....someone or someones saying something anti PC?! Will anything be done about it...of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyruby Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 If that had been hearts,you can bet your last quid that it would have been sensational headline news & we would have been fined ?50.000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Lennon got away with shouting similar despite being on camera at the time. Nothing to see here, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Clearly Shay Logan's fault... He shouted it in his own face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Police report is complete weeks ago and papers are with the Crown office awaiting a decision on whether to prosecute or not. Pretty sure some erse singing a naughty song in a boozer won't be at the top of the list of priorities. Well it should be! Very high profile case of a leading player employed by one of Scotland's leading clubs, clearly singing a racist song which has been viewed by thousands of members of the public. If Scotland is serious about stamping out racism they need to be seen to hammer this Ned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Celtics PR machine will be in full swing and no doubt the Dons player will get done for making it all up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 As others have said, difficult to prove unless other players come forward. The fact that the dons player reported it right away may act in his favour. Personally,I expect that sellik will issue the standard "player spoken to about behaviour expected from tic players" etc, etc and it will quietly disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 As has been covered already on this thread, the SPFL/SFA can't do anything until the Cops/Crown conclude their side of things, so as not to prejudice any potential criminal case. A bit lilt the John Terry v Anton Ferdinand scenario. 'Lilt' eh? Makes it a tropical debate then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Police report is complete weeks ago and papers are with the Crown office awaiting a decision on whether to prosecute or not. Pretty sure some erse singing a naughty song in a boozer won't be at the top of the list of priorities. Going by the report in The Hibsman it looks like they are busy prosecuting some other erse for Twitter abuse against Anthony Stokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 shows you he's pretty rubbish IMO. Logan's not a great defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The SFA say it might take upto 2 weeks to decide if any action will be taken against Tonev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The SFA say it might take upto 2 weeks to decide if any action will be taken against Tonev? It'll give The Sun some time to photoshop a speech bubble onto a picture of the two of them - "No, I said you're black affronted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Lucky he didnt call him a Welsh bar steward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Celtics PR machine will be in full swing and no doubt the Dons player will get done for making it all up? and the first bit has happened Celtic saying Tonev did not do this suggests Logan is lying or was mistaken though they just seem to be relying on his word poor by Celtic - should stick to it being his statement he is innocent not to say they know its absolutely the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks No Deid Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Agree that the police should be setting a precedent with Griffith's altercations. As has been mentioned, they have done their part and the report on the matter awaits a decision (from the courts if I read correctly?). Hopefully the courts will realise, that although this may seem a minor incident in comparison to the heinous crimes that no doubt cross their desks, it needs to be viewed as an example case. If they act correctly now, then it should help to prevent any of the younger members of public who have viewed the video thinking that racism is acceptable behaviour. It would also send out a clear message; regardless of who you are, what job title you hold/ who you work for and whomever your friends in high places may be (Lawell in this case) it is not acceptable conduct and will be dealt with accordingly. And he's done similar before eg. the young lad from Livi, facebook/twitter? Something along the lines of go back to where you come from......err like that far away place that is Livi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Charged with using language of a racist nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dia Liom Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It'll give The Sun some time to photoshop a speech bubble onto a picture of the two of them - "No, I said you're black affronted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Cheerio http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29285903 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 He many games did Suarez get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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