Hearts Heritage Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Sat 15 Aug 1914 15:30 Hearts 2 Harry Wattie 27 ;Tom Gracie 82 Celtic 0 Division 1 1 of 38 Tynecastle Park Edinburgh Scotland 18500 Ref: Tom Dougray Barrhead 1 Archie Boyd 2 Patrick Crossan 3 James H Frew 4 Alfred Ernest Briggs 5 Bob Mercer 6 Peter Nellies 7 Jimmy Low 8 Harry Wattie 9 Tom Gracie 10 James Speedie 11 Willie Wilson http://londonhearts..../191408151.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Gracie played a blinder that day. I had an Auntie Gracie (RIP) and she was named after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpos Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I have never heard The celtic called the 'parksiders' before. Interesting reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 In early reports HMFC often called 'The Heart' HFC called 'the Irishmen' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 In early reports HMFC often called 'The Heart' HFC called 'the Irishmen' and Dumbarton called Dumbarton Harp, learning something new there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 and Dumbarton called Dumbarton Harp, learning something new there. Different Club Dumbarton Harp played the majority of their existence in local football leagues, such as the Glasgow and District Junior League, which they joined in their inaugural season, or the Inter County Football League in season 1916?17. In 1910 they were champions of the Scottish Football Union which they left in 1912 to participate in the Scottish Reserve Football League.[1] They did play for a short spell in the Scottish Football League when it expanded to a three division set up in the 1920s. They finished tenth (out of 16 clubs) in the inaugural Division Three in the 1923?24 season,[3][4] but withdrew midway through the 1924?25 season when it became clear they could not meet their financial commitments.[3] They played on for a while longer, again in local leagues, but had become defunct by around 1936. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Different Club Dumbarton Harp played the majority of their existence in local football leagues, such as the Glasgow and District Junior League, which they joined in their inaugural season, or the Inter County Football League in season 1916?17. In 1910 they were champions of the Scottish Football Union which they left in 1912 to participate in the Scottish Reserve Football League.[1] They did play for a short spell in the Scottish Football League when it expanded to a three division set up in the 1920s. They finished tenth (out of 16 clubs) in the inaugural Division Three in the 1923?24 season,[3][4] but withdrew midway through the 1924?25 season when it became clear they could not meet their financial commitments.[3] They played on for a while longer, again in local leagues, but had become defunct by around 1936. good one, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambie15 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 What a brilliant thread and one I hope can be maintained as we recall the horrors of 100 years ago and the lads from Tynie who led the way for others to follow. HUGE thanks to London Hearts who yet again provide all the history required. BRILLIANT effort chaps - please keep it up. "The Rangers", "The Heart of Midlothian", "The Celtic"...... funny how history has a habit of repeating itself eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots civil war Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 brilliant stuff....oh,if only there were time machines id be back there like a meteorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomaso Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I loved the comment - "The Hibernians who lost narrowly to Clyde, were pretty much the same Hibernians of last season" A 100 years on and nothing much changed then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hearts Heritage Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 The DR has changed in last 100 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Earlier in the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I look forward to the rest of this (!) seasons thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcliff Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Super photo of the match 12august1893. Is that the new stand in the background, without a roof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Super photo of the match 12august1893. Is that the new stand in the background, without a roof? I would think so. Stand didn't open until Queen's Park game on Sat 24 Oct 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 A coincidence that we will be playing them tomorrow 100 years and a day. Sat 22 Aug 1914 15:30 Raith Rovers 1 [J Scott 85] Hearts 3 Willie Wilson ;Harry Graham 75 ;Harry Graham 80 Division 1 02 of 38 Stark's Park Kirkcaldy Scotland 7750 Ref: J Matthews Greenock http://londonhearts.com/scores/games/191408221.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Getintaethem Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Uncanny that we have the same fixture 100 years later. Hopefully we'll get the same score line, I'd imagine that the attendance won't be very far away from that figure either. Hibs at home to Falkirk that day too, another draw perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Raith Rovers 1 William Wallace 2 William Winning 3 William J Lavery 4 James Henry Logan 5 George McLay 6 William Porter 7 Neil McDougall Turner 8 James Scott 9 John C Rattray 10 Harry A Anderson 11 Frederick Thomas Bertrand Gibson Heart Of Mid-Lothian 1 Archie Boyd 2 Patrick Crossan 3 James H Frew 4 Alfred Ernest Briggs 5 Walter Scott 6 Peter Nellies 7 Jimmy Low 8 Harry Wattie 9 Tom Gracie 10 Harry Graham 2 goals 11 Willie Wilson 1 goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Hearts had famously been knocked out of the Scottish Cup earlier in 1914. A crowd of 21,000 were there. Sat 07 Feb 1914 Raith Rovers 2 Hearts 0 Scottish Cup R2 Stark's Park Kirkcaldy Scotland 21000 Ref: Tom Robertson Glasgow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Getintaethem Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Can see this thread being an enjoyable read, although sad and poignant over the course of the year. As well as the football, think it's also important to note the progress of the war to get a full picture of what was happening at the time. Tomorrow also marks the 100th anniversary of the start of the Battle of Mons, the first major conflict of the First World War and the first indication that this conflict was to be more than just another European war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambie15 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 "Can see this thread being an enjoyable read, although sad and poignant over the course of the year. As well as the football, think it's also important to note the progress of the war to get a full picture of what was happening at the time. Tomorrow also marks the 100th anniversary of the start of the Battle of Mons, the first major conflict of the First World War and the first indication that this conflict was to be more than just another European war." Agreed....think this can be an outstanding thread and tremendous respectful way for all of us to remember the Boys of McCrae's Battalion - putting into context their football careers against wider reports from the war. Let's not forget that the early 14-15 season was one to savour as the Hearts team were developing very well under the guidance of John McCartney, and starting to challenge the dominance from Celtic. I've posted before that it's remarkable how history has a habit of repeating itself...Celtic dominant, Raith Rovers 100 years ago this weekend, Hearts developing nicely under an astute coach etc. But history can also inform us - which is why this thread has the potential to develop into something extremely powerful. I confess to being a luddite when it comes to posting etc, but if there's anyone on KB who can dovetail the historical aspects of the war with the BRILLIANT postings from our London Hearts chum - this could be really something to maintain going forward. I'm more than happy to help out researching if someone points me in the right direction, but I'd need (BIG) help posting stuff !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 From Thursday 20th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 100 years and one day . Same result will do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 http://londonhearts..../1914082601.htm Wed 26 Aug 1914 18:20 Hearts 6 Hibernian 0 Dunedin Cup Final Tynecastle Park Edinburgh Scotland 4750 Ref: L Wynne Uphall Tom Gracie 4 ; Harry Graham 8 ; Robert Malcolm 15 ; Harry Graham 75 ; James Speedie 80 ; Tom Gracie 88 Heart Of Mid-Lothian 6 1 Archie Boyd 2 Patrick Crossan 3 James H Frew 4 Alfred Ernest Briggs 5 Walter Scott 6 Peter Nellies 7 Jimmy Low 8 Robert Malcolm 1 goal 9 Tom Gracie 2 goals 10 Harry Graham 2 goals 11 James Speedie 1 goal Hibernian 0 1 David Stevenson 2 Neil Girdwood 3 Robert Templeton 4 Peter Kerr 5 Matthew Paterson 6 Alex Ramsay Grosart 7 Robert Wilson 8 Connell McColl 9 Patrick Callaghan 10 John Aitken 11 William Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Currahee! Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 An 18:20 ko time? Police station entrance? Good reading though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 An 18:20 ko time? Police station entrance? Good reading though. Where I have found kick off times. The normal time was 15:30. Obviously getting earlier in the winter. The Noon kick offs were on Holidays 12:00 2 14:00 2 14:15 3 14:30 1 14:45 1 15:00 3 15:20 1 15:30 24 18:20 1 18:45 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zen Jambo Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 After reading those articles I havce the tune of 'old football is crap' from Badiel and Skinners Fantasy Football show. *This is in no way the poinion of this poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 After reading those articles I havce the tune of 'new football is crap' from Badiel and Skinners Fantasy Football show. *This is in no way the poinion of this poster. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 HEARTS ROUT HIBERNIANS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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i8hibsh Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 This thread is a fantastic idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 Sat 29 Aug 1914 15:30 Hearts 2 Third Lanark 0 Division 1 03 of 38 Tynecastle Park Edinburgh Scotland 13000 Ref: Alexander Edwards Glasgow 1 Archie Boyd 2 Patrick Crossan 3 James H Frew 4 Alfred Ernest Briggs 5 Walter Scott 6 Peter Nellies 7 Jimmy Low 8 Robert Malcolm 1 goal 9 Tom Gracie 10 Harry Graham 1 goal 11 James Speedie 1 James Brownlie 2 George Ferguson Lennon 3 George Gibb 4 James Yates 5 Harry Swift 6 John Hannah 7 John Thomas Butler 8 John Ferguson 9 James D Smith 10 John Brown 11 Harry Washington Mountford http://londonhearts.com/scores/games/191408291.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Craig Herbertson Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 In the middle of cleverly slating footballers Mr Luke misspelled 'woe to the vanquished' Should have been 'Vae Victus'/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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