Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Jordan did just fine when he came on, no need for a panic signing. Yep. We also have a young lad waiting for a chance. What's to say he doesn't come in and make a Patersonesque impact himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiboy Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Maybe Hearts could arrange a testimonial for him next Saturday, as there's no game..? We play St Johnstone, think we will need to put that game on the back burner for now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 If it is his cruciate and hes out for the season then his chances of fulfilling the high level career he was destined for are over. Was the whole forum on drugs last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Big blow if he's out for any serious length of time, he's a top prospect. Gives young Liam Smith a chance to show what he can do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Big blow if he's out for any serious length of time, he's a top prospect. Gives young Liam Smith a chance to show what he can do though. If he can force Jordan out of the position and if Paterson is out for as long as some doom merchants think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 If he can force Jordan out of the position and if Paterson is out for as long as some doom merchants think. McGhee's a centre half, going by pre season Neilson wants to use him more there than at right back. Think Smith will get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Jordan did just fine when he came on, no need for a panic signing. Fair point. I wasn't there yesterday so didn't know how Jordan got on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neave Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Robbie's interview would suggest we won't be bringing in a replacement if CP is out for a long while. If Liam Smith is good and confident enough, that's fine with me. We already know McGhee can competently play there. Just our luck though, eh? We sign a new team, the signs point to us gelling really well in pre-season with a view to hitting the ground running, then we injure a mainstay to our first 11 in a nothing game against part-timers. It wouldn't be Hearts if it was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonbury jambo Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 And to think there was a thread on here devoted to him being the weak link in defence... And whats wrong with that ?,i still believe he is a weak link at right back, im devastated that he is injured and hope that he makes a speedy recovery, thinking he is a weak link in defence at rb and him getting a possible serious injury are two completely different things you fool. heres to a speedy recovery callum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 It's a bit disappointing to potentially lose a good young player to injury before a ball is kicked in anger. Mind you 'wuv goat tae sign roodi now likesy cos he's a qwality right back' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hope Calum is ok, doesn't disguise neither full back looked comfortable again. This would be a real shame, the boy is a learner and would have improved in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Cruciates are not quite the death sentence they used to be. Hopefully not that though. There's been major advances in last 5 years alone with specialists claiming there's a better way to carry out the procedure. Read an article stating shorter recovery period plus reducing the likelihood of reoccurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Shall we list players who have done their ACL before continuing to play at a high or higher level? For every Gary Locke (who was never the same) there's a Lee Wallace... Van Nistelrooy did his cruciate in 2000 and still went on to score a she'd load more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Paterson probably isnt the best defensive minded player to have at RB but his attacking threat will see him bag 5-10 goals in a season. Is Liam Smith the attack full back type? Hopefully Paterson isnt out for long but we have players who can take advantage of his injury, thats the nature of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 And whats wrong with that ?, i still believe he is a weak link at right back, im devastated that he is injured and hope that he makes a speedy recovery, thinking he is a weak link in defence at rb and him getting a possible serious injury are two completely different things you fool. heres to a speedy recovery callum... I was actually referring to the knee jerk reaction that if it's a serious injury our season is over given that last week people felt he was going to cost us goals in that position. If you genuinely felt I was saying that folk were wishing an injury on him as a result then you've got my post completely wrong chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonbury jambo Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I was actually referring to the knee jerk reaction that if it's a serious injury our season is over given that last week people felt he was going to cost us goals in that position. If you genuinely felt I was saying that folk were wishing an injury on him as a result then you've got my post completely wrong chief. ok bud .. no offence intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Did he not do his knee in a couple seasons ago? McGlynn season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Depressing The injury or this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the geezer Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The injury of course ,for the lad and the club . I think his ability in the air will be missed badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The injury or this thread? both i'd say bad news if one of our best players is out injured and the usual KB post speculating about how long he'll be out and how bad it is when he's not had a scan yet let's wait and see and keep our fingers crossed it's not too serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Shall we list players who have done their ACL before continuing to play at a high or higher level? For every Gary Locke (who was never the same) there's a Lee Wallace... Van Nistelrooy did his cruciate in 2000 and still went on to score a she'd load more goals. Lee Wallace tore his PCL. I don't think he even had surgery as it isn't always required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Let's hope Paterson is as capable of a knee jerk reaction as many JKB posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kljambo Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Lets just hope he is ok HHGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Did he not do his knee in a couple seasons ago? McGlynn season? yea last season as well he had an injury its prob going to affect his sell on value in a couple of years as he could be seen as vulnerable to injury unless when he comes back from this one he can go a couple seasons without a big injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Player-Coach to cover for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Any word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Any word? I imagine the scan will be at some point this morning and we'll get results thereafter.... Will just have to wait and see. Fingers crossed it isnt cruciate, would be devastating blow for him and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Good luck come scan time for the lad. Fingers crossed its not as bad as 1st thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Player-Coach to cover for him? Didn't Rudi play full back at Southampton....? Only asking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogjh Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Na news yet then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Na news yet then Sort off! http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/robbie-neilson-sure-hearts-can-cope-without-callum-paterson-1-3490705 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Lee Wallace tore his PCL. I don't think he even had surgery as it isn't always required. Fair enough... I thought it was ACL. I do remember people saying it wasn't as serious as most knee ligament injuries because he did it in the air and didn't land on it, so the surrounding cartilage wasn't as badly damaged as it usually would be, but did definitely read / hear it was ACL... But you're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiboy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Barry Anderson ?@BarryAnderson_ 9 mins #Hearts' Callum Paterson didn't have his knee scanned today due to pain from the injury. Scan may be tomorrow: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/robbie-neilson-sure-hearts-can-cope-without-callum-paterson-1-3490705 ? #HMFC From experience this doesn't sound good, sounds like ACL to me. Really hope it isn't for him and us. That would mean 9 months out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Didnt have a scan due to pain from injury? Thats what the bloody scan is for!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiboy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Didnt have a scan due to pain from injury? Thats what the bloody scan is for!! Normally if the knee is too swollen then they are not able to scan it, that is what I am thinking he actually means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Not sounding good then. I'll be really quite disappointed for the lad if it's a nine month lay off. Hope you are back soon Callum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogjh Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 After what CL tweeted on Saturday about bringing in a defender, He & RN will be sourcing a replacement this week that'll be a priority now. McGee, Makay & Smith will be kept for replacements & only used as subs or to cover short term injuries & suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboPete Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 After what CL tweeted on Saturday about bringing in a defender, He & RN will be sourcing a replacement this week that'll be a priority now. McGee, Makay & Smith will be kept for replacements & only used as subs or to cover short term injuries & suspensions. They were bringing in another defender anyway. Depending on how long Paterson is out for, I wonder if they might look at a loan deal for a natural RB with a bit experience as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Its an interesting dilemma if this is a really bad injury - and obviously I hope it is not as I think Calum is a fantastic player. Jordan McGhee He wants to focus on developing as a centre back and pushing for that position this year in the event of any suspensions or injuries. I think he has made that clear to the club from what I have read. And for what it is worth I tend to agree with that. But, if you have the chance for the best part of a season at right back - how would he feel about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 After what CL tweeted on Saturday about bringing in a defender, He & RN will be sourcing a replacement this week that'll be a priority now. McGee, Makay & Smith will be kept for replacements & only used as subs or to cover short term injuries & suspensions. I wouldn't feel particularly comfortable with either McGhee or Mackay as 1st choice RB so hope that is true. Mackay is far to slow and not nearly good enough on the ball to play at full back, and McGhee, while a very promising youngster, still lacks experience and needs to bulk up. I can't comment on Smith but as he is behind the other 2 even in terms of age/experience, can only assume that he isn't ready. If only we'd kept Jamie Hamill............ *joke* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogjh Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 The loan ideas not a bad shout actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 They were bringing in another defender anyway. Depending on how long Paterson is out for, I wonder if they might look at a loan deal for a natural RB with a bit experience as well. agree we need to sign a 'natural' right back ASAP but sure the management team know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Its an interesting dilemma if this is a really bad injury - and obviously I hope it is not as I think Calum is a fantastic player. Jordan McGhee He wants to focus on developing as a centre back and pushing for that position this year in the event of any suspensions or injuries. I think he has made that clear to the club from what I have read. And for what it is worth I tend to agree with that. But, if you have the chance for the best part of a season at right back - how would he feel about that? As he's previously said, he would accept it happily I'm sure. He is a footballer, he will just want to play (albeit he would prefer to play in his favoured position). The issue is more, is he good enough to be our 1st choice RB at this stage... It is as tough an opening to the season as we could expect, not an easy time to bed him in to an unfamiliar position.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogjh Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hamill in that team would be like a fish out of water. Pass, pass, pass, hoof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antwan Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Well lets just hope he's not out for too long. And hope that when he returns he makes a big impact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Didn't Rudi play full back at Southampton....? Only asking! That wasn't the one I meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 As he's previously said, he would accept it happily I'm sure. He is a footballer, he will just want to play (albeit he would prefer to play in his favoured position). The issue is more, is he good enough to be our 1st choice RB at this stage... It is as tough an opening to the season as we could expect, not an easy time to bed him in to an unfamiliar position.... I'm. Big fan of McGhee, happily put him in there for a couple of months, if things don't work out then bring in cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mancini Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Its an interesting dilemma if this is a really bad injury - and obviously I hope it is not as I think Calum is a fantastic player. Jordan McGhee He wants to focus on developing as a centre back and pushing for that position this year in the event of any suspensions or injuries. I think he has made that clear to the club from what I have read. And for what it is worth I tend to agree with that. But, if you have the chance for the best part of a season at right back - how would he feel about that? Jordan McGhee put in some fantastic performances last season at RB - the league cup game against hibs springs to mind, he was put under pressure by hibs constant attcking in the first 30 mins but put in an assured display and was always making himself available for a roll out from McDonald who was happy to route one 9/10 times, granted he is a centre half first and fore most but i don't think its fitting square pegs in circles, as an aside i think he has the potential to go as far in the game as any of the other younger players in our squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 paterson's injury is a bit of karma for that crazy 'paterson weak link' thread from last week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Not a huge problem. Slot McGhee in and make sure that Bauben/Gomis give him a bit of support on that side. If this is a dilemma then god knows what we'd be doing/saying if this was last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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