:shitwine: Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Surely Wallace? To be honest though I didn't mind him going there. We got a bit of cash for him and at least Rangers were still one of the top dogs in Scottish football. He went there hoping to win silverware, play in the champions league and eventually make a move to a bigger club. Just a shame for him how it all worked out and now he's stuck down there. I never had a problem with him moving, and at the time, it was a great move for him. However, he chose to stay when he had a chance to cancel his contract, and has pledged his loyalty to them when he could easily play in the English Championship, maybe even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasathejambo1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't hate Motherwell or St Johnstone but I do not understand why fans of one football side in Scotland would want another to do well in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't hate Motherwell or St Johnstone but I do not understand why fans of one football side in Scotland would want another to do well in Europe. I don't understand this post....will we call this a draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't hate Motherwell or St Johnstone but I do not understand why fans of one football side in Scotland would want another to do well in Europe. Because you get older and the seethe dissipates, apart from Craig Gordon signing for Celtic - that made me lose my shit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't hate Motherwell or St Johnstone but I do not understand why fans of one football side in Scotland would want another to do well in Europe. Because football fans group clubs by nationality in their heads. It's quite nice not having fans in Europe thinking our teams, and therefore Scottish football, are utter horseshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't hate Motherwell or St Johnstone but I do not understand why fans of one football side in Scotland would want another to do well in Europe. Think someone already mentioned why you might want that. More wins- better co-efficient- more places, more chance of Hearts getting into Europe and entering at a later stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeshi's Tynecastle Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Surely Wallace? To be honest though I didn't mind him going there. We got a bit of cash for him and at least Rangers were still one of the top dogs in Scottish football. He went there hoping to win silverware, play in the champions league and eventually make a move to a bigger club. Just a shame for him how it all worked out and now he's stuck down there. Agree up to your last line: not really a shame how it worked out. And he chose to stay there. Can understand him going there - never understood him staying there. That's where the lack of ambition comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Draper Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 SJ win 5-4 on pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Saints through 5-4 on pens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasathejambo1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't understand this post....will we call this a draw? Three others did, why couldn't you? Anyway I see where you all are coming from. I thought it was generally just wanting those teams to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I never had a problem with him moving, and at the time, it was a great move for him. However, he chose to stay when he had a chance to cancel his contract, and has pledged his loyalty to them when he could easily play in the English Championship, maybe even higher. That's true but it's hard to call how he would have been feeling at that point. Maybe he just felt really welcomed at the club and settled in nicely and didn't want to move on again so soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Nice one Saints .Motherwell game still going. ET. 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Jumped on St Johns to qualify. Mannus is a good penalty stopper right? Maybe I just made that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned In Oz Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Saints through 5-4 on pens! Excellent news. Now for Motherwell to stop whale-harpooning themselves in the foot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Weird topic switches here but Dundee Utd are obviously teaching their players that it's a big wide world out there avid they should be looking way beyond The Old Firm and Rangers. Lee Wallace would never get that, having the mental capacity of a toddler or a reall intelligent Jack Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesy1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 To be fair if it gets to pens the motherwell keeper should have a rough idea as to where they will put there penalties after facing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Three others did, why couldn't you? Anyway I see where you all are coming from. I thought it was generally just wanting those teams to win. Three others did, why couldn't you? Anyway I see where you all are coming from. I thought it was generally just wanting those teams to win. Two through,one to go,,,,,,but here is where a slight contradiction may come into play...don't mind the sheep and staines going through but Motherwell going out would not be a disaster. It all happened years ago.....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 You would have to say that St.Johnstone have an easier tie in the next round. Good chance of reaching he playoff round, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Aberdeen and St Johnstone both securing terrific wins . Well done both. Spleedoink must be absolutely spewing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 3-2 to the Icemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Tam Cowan will be spewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I dont particularly like other scottish teams on a domestic front But i would rather they all did well in europe. Look at the stages in which aberdeen entered and even st j and murderwell Compare that to where we entered at the 2012/2013 stage having been cup winners, a difference of two stages / 4 games If it means that when we do eventually get back to competing for european places i would rather that we enter as late as possible to have a better chance of making group stage and a crack at millions of pounds than wish that our fellow teams get pumped in the 1st qualifying round and we have similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Wanted them to go through but it's quite amusing just how they can have a 2-0 lead in the first leg and continually throw it away over and over again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I dont particularly like other scottish teams on a domestic front But i would rather they all did well in europe. Look at the stages in which aberdeen entered and even st j and murderwell Compare that to where we entered at the 2012/2013 stage having been cup winners, a difference of two stages / 4 games If it means that when we do eventually get back to competing for european places i would rather that we enter as late as possible to have a better chance of making group stage and a crack at millions of pounds than wish that our fellow teams get pumped in the 1st qualifying round and we have similar We'll not have any of that foresight on this thread, thank you. There's seething to be doing - boo etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned In Oz Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Wanted them to go through but it's quite amusing just how they can have a 2-0 lead in the first leg and continually throw it away over and over again . Deserve to go out. How can a professional team that had been ahead that maybe times be going out to a semi-pro outfit from a country of 300 000 people. Well done to the Icelanders. Motherwell, you're ******* out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Sure i mentioned it before but motherwell are a joke Knew even wen they qualified for europe they would do the grand total of zip in terms of progress. Utter cack That too and i was quite keen to see Lech Poznan coming to scotland. As i quite like polish football as well would have probably went along in the away end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Great night. Well done the Dons and Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Video of Groningen hooligans attacking Aberdeen bagpipers with a bike http://bit.ly/1uk4OBY no need like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Video of Groningen hooligans attacking Aberdeen bagpipers with a bike http://bit.ly/1uk4OBY no need like Speaking of Groningen 'hooligans', what the hell are all the Groningen stickers around Edinburgh all about? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Strange night - fantastic results for Aberdeen and Saints against semi decent opposition, total embarrassment for Motherwell against part time pish. They should be ashamed - as bad as Scottish football has become I can't recall any of our teams ever being knocked out by an Icelandic team. They've got a population much less than Edinburgh ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Draper Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Strange night - fantastic results for Aberdeen and Saints against semi decent opposition, total embarrassment for Motherwell against part time pish. They should be ashamed - as bad as Scottish football has become I can't recall any of our teams ever being knocked out by an Icelandic team. They've got a population much less than Edinburgh ffs! I believe Dunfermline may have been there, done that etc. Terrible result for Mwell. Well done to the other two, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Reminds me of the time Dunfermline got knocked out by Harnarfjordur. Finished 4th the year before and reached the Scottish Cup final... then what could have been a fairly decent European run got cut short by an Icelandic team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Strange night - fantastic results for Aberdeen and Saints against semi decent opposition, total embarrassment for Motherwell against part time pish. They should be ashamed - as bad as Scottish football has become I can't recall any of our teams ever being knocked out by an Icelandic team. They've got a population much less than Edinburgh ffs! I'm afraid you just need to look back to Dunfermline 2004. Worse than that Falkirk losing to Vaduz from Liechtenstein in 2009 (though they have beaten quite a few teams since then) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozyuzi Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 If it means that when we do eventually get back to competing for european places i would rather that we enter as late as possible It's changing next year, 2 Scottish teams enter the 1st round of qualies instead of 1. Scotland would need to get up to 15th in the coefficients to make a difference, we're 22nd just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Draper Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I'm afraid you just need to look back to Dunfermline 2004. Worse than that Falkirk losing to Vaduz from Liechtenstein in 2009 (though they have beaten quite a few teams since then) Don't they play in the Swiss League, though? Surely losing to an Icelandic team is worse. Or a Latvian team (Aberdeen). Or an Irish team (Aberdeen again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Don't they play in the Swiss League, though? Surely losing to an Icelandic team is worse. Or a Latvian team (Aberdeen). Or an Irish team (Aberdeen again). Correct. Falkirk 1st division at the time also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Shocker of a result for Motherwell, North Lanarkshire has a bigger population than Iceland as a whole. Aberdeen and St Johnstone have done very well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned In Oz Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Video of Groningen hooligans attacking Aberdeen bagpipers with a bike http://bit.ly/1uk4OBY no need like Groningen fans are ******* scum. That guy looked like an old man - pathetic. They also have a connection with Hibs so I am delighted they are out - probabty why their stickers are plastered all over the place. Filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM1874 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Speaking of Groningen 'hooligans', what the hell are all the Groningen stickers around Edinburgh all about? haha Believe it or not They have a 'friendship' with the wee team Apparently some of them come over to games regularly (dont know if the wee team go over there though) Dont know any more than that or care, bit bizarre As unclear how came about, but read that when checking up on the preview to the sheep game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned In Oz Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Believe it or not They have a 'friendship' with the wee team Apparently some of them come over to games regularly (dont know if the wee team go over there though) Dont know any more than that or care, bit bizarre As unclear how came about, but read that when checking up on the preview to the sheep game I've always liked Heerenveen due to the "hearts" on their shirt. They are also Groningen's major rivals.... No brainer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNCASTLE Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Think someone already mentioned why you might want that. More wins- better co-efficient- more places, more chance of Hearts getting into Europe and entering at a later stage. It's all about the coefficient ! As usual Motherwell let us down. If it was up to me I wouldn't let them in. They ALWAYS do this. Well done the others. This round 8 matches and only one Scottish defeat, best for years and our coefficient will rise again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Lasley fouls to concede the penalty.....for the THIRD time over the two legs! Gets away with murder every week that guy in our leagues,another Goodwin imo well not quite as bad as Lasley is a decent footballer as well just nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNCASTLE Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Switzerland and Holland are 2 big World Cup countries so finally our clubs don't look like easy beats ( not counting Motherwell....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 How many times straight is this now that Motherwell has soaked up a Euro spot (a CL spot nonetheless a couple years ago) and proceeded to crash out at the first opportunity? Well done to Aberdeen and St Johnstone. Would be great to see both make the group stage -- what we need to be aiming for every year once we're back up where we belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienbrellier Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 well done st johnstone! happy in general for scottish teams to do well in europe but the day I support that shower of c**ts Aberdeen is the day I pack in being a jambo. disgusting supporters on par with the old firm if not worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 well done st johnstone! happy in general for scottish teams to do well in europe but the day I support that shower of c**ts Aberdeen is the day I pack in being a jambo. disgusting supporters on par with the old firm if not worse Spot on. No true Hearts Man wants Aberdeen to do well. The others get a nod of respect and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hearts record in Europe is genuinely mediocre. By that I mean we rarely win ties we expect to lose and have never suffered a 'humiliation' against a lower ranked opponent . We have had some wonderful first leg results only to go out in leg 2. Munich and Bordeaux for example. Basle was a great victory but was rendered meaningless by the 'round 4' results. Our best two tie results were Vienna and Braga. Nearly Every other Scottish team has had a 'shocker' vs lower opponents can't think of any for Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_razors_edge Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Was speaking to a M'well fan at work just now. He was saying that getting knocked out came as no surprise to him. He says the football under McCall has been dire and that M'well are seriously struggling financially. He reckons they need to find 400k by November or they'll be in admin. This is why they released McFadden and have only signed 3 players over the summer. Might be worth sticking a couple of quid on M'well getting relegated, you'll probably get a decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Right. I hate this love in with Scottish Clubs in Europe. Celtic dont even want to play in Scottish Football. Aberdeen and Motherwell celebrated our demise,and both sang with joy about relegation. Lets leave St.John's Stains out of it,they are too diddy and irrelevant to care about. This crap about "Co-efficient" means nil. Barriers through qualification in Europe like seeding and places are miles away from being better in Scotland. That apart,I hate every team in Scotland apart from HMFC and hope they get humped in Europe for evermore that's nice for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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