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[mcdougg]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/17295576

Arsenal have agreed to sign him for 10.9 million on 100k a week.

If this works out, he'll be a brilliant signing IMHO  

[mahgrassyshoes]

Agreed. Could be another example of clubs going abroad a getting players for very good pedigree for much cheaper than their English counterparts. Hopefully it will be enough to see the likes of RVP staying at the club as well.

[vegas-voss]

He never seems to do much at any of the clubs he has been at and then is a goal machine in WC and Euros

[mcdougg]

I'm not an Arsenal fan by any means, but I hope this doesn't spell the end for RVP.  Massive rumours about him going to City.  

[The Merse]

Weird one.

He's playing at Cologne for a reason.

Seems to turn it on for Germany but is a very risky signing.

Edit:

Wouldn't mind a front 3 of:

             RVP
Podolski             Oxlade-Chamberlain

Edited by The Merse, 08 March 2012 - 12:39 PM.

[Problem Officer?]

Cheerio RVP, or at least that's what it looks like to me.

If they keep him as well though, then they'll be lethal up top next season.

[Jona Weinhofen]

Arsenal style signing. Good player but not a top team player, see bellamy at Liverpool.

[Manny1874]

He is a very talented player, but seems to only play well for either Germany or Koln. Hopefully for him the move to Arsenal wont be like his move to Bayern and he will flourish. He also has a camp German song about him  

[Feeno]

The Merse, on 08 March 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Weird one.

He's playing at Cologne for a reason.

Seems to turn it on for Germany but is a very risky signing.

Edit:

Wouldn't mind a front 3 of:

             RVP
Podolski             Oxlade-Chamberlain

Didnt enjoy his time at Bayern apparantly, went back to Cologne and was told the team would be built round him with high profile signings, that never materialised. Still only 26. I dont think its that risky tbh. I like the edit part.

[andrew]

A strange signing IMO.

He's the German version of David Healy - brilliant for the national team but distinctly average at club level. He was a total flop at Bayern.

[super_vlad]

The Merse, on 08 March 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Weird one.

He's playing at Cologne for a reason.

Seems to turn it on for Germany but is a very risky signing.

Edit:

Wouldn't mind a front 3 of:

         RVP
Podolski         Oxlade-Chamberlain

have a wee read here http://bundesligafoo...end-the-throne/

The man is treated like a god in Koln, he was unlucky at Bayern, he had Klose and toni in outstanding form in front of him and the formation they played didn't suit his game.

[mcdougg]

super_vlad, on 08 March 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

have a wee read here http://bundesligafoo...end-the-throne/

The man is treated like a god in Koln, he was unlucky at Bayern, he had Klose and toni in outstanding form in front of him and the formation they played didn't suit his game.

This.....  

[SectionDJambo]

He is scoring goals for fun in a struggling side at Koln. They love him there, and for good reason. He should score goals in the EPL. Left footed player though, so not hard to see why some think RVP will be away, but Arsenal do seem to be prepared to push the boat out to keep him as well.

[GD_JAMBO]

People saying the guys shite at club level he has 16 goals this season and he scored a lot last season too and when he was at cologne before he went to bayern he had 46 goals in 81 appearances.

[Allez Rossoneri]

GD_JAMBO, on 08 March 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

People saying the guys shite at club level he has 16 goals this season and he scored a lot last season too and when he was at cologne before he went to bayern he had 46 goals in 81 appearances.

This x1000. Muppets.

[Jona Weinhofen]

GD_JAMBO, on 08 March 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

People saying the guys shite at club level he has 16 goals this season and he scored a lot last season too and when he was at cologne before he went to bayern he had 46 goals in 81 appearances.

Don't think think they are saying he is shite at club level, just that he seems to do much better for the national team and that his last chance at a big club was a total flop.

I think he will do okay, no better-no worse. If he replaces RVP I would consider it like replacing Fabregas with Arteta, not horrific, but not world class.

[weststand93]

On 7 March 2012 it was announced that Podolski would join Arsenal in the summer of 2012 for €13 million.

[andrew]

GD_JAMBO, on 08 March 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

People saying the guys shite at club level he has 16 goals this season and he scored a lot last season too and when he was at cologne before he went to bayern he had 46 goals in 81 appearances.

jamboally, on 08 March 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

This x1000. Muppets.

He scored an average of 5 league goals a season between 2006 and 2009 and only managed 14 goals in all competitions last year.

If you think that's worthy of over £10m and £100k a week then you're having a laugh.

Feel free to bring this up at the end of next season.

[GD_JAMBO]

taylor_1874, on 08 March 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

Don't think think they are saying he is shite at club level, just that he seems to do much better for the national team and that his last chance at a big club was a total flop.

I think he will do okay, no better-no worse. If he replaces RVP I would consider it like replacing Fabregas with Arteta, not horrific, but not world class.

But he wasn't a flop at bayern he was behind Toni and klose who were a brilliant partnership for bayern at the time, and he was only young. bayern wanted to keep podolski but he didn't want to stay.

[super_vlad]

andrew, on 08 March 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

He scored an average of 5 league goals a season between 2006 and 2009 and only managed 14 goals in all competitions last year.

If you think that's worthy of over £10m and £100k a week then you're having a laugh.

Feel free to bring this up at the end of next season.

Let me guess you just had a look at Wikipedia didn't you?

Did you happened to miss his Germany record 43 goals in 95 games?

In his first season in the first division with Koln he scored 29 goals in 33 games! I suggest you actually watch some german football before you take shite stats off the internet to say a player is shite! In terms of money i think i could name 100 players who have gone for more and being less players!

Edited by super_vlad, 08 March 2012 - 01:27 PM.

[GD_JAMBO]

andrew, on 08 March 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

He scored an average of 5 league goals a season between 2006 and 2009 and only managed 14 goals in all competitions last year.

If you think that's worthy of over £10m and £100k a week
then you're having a laugh.

Feel free to bring this up at the end of next season.

You clearly don't know what your on about he scored 14 goals in a struggling cologne team who weren't scoring and 16 this season and cologne are still struggling. look at the goals at international level he didn't start every game at bayern most of the performances came from the bench.

[Bert Le Clos]

He'll be a good signing for Arsenal IMO. He's technically brilliant, although I think very similar to RVP.

Van Persie won't be there next year.

[The Merse]

super_vlad, on 08 March 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

Let me guess you just had a look at Wikipedia didn't you?

Did you happened to miss his Germany record 43 goals in 95 games?

In his first season in the first division with Koln he scored 29 goals in 33 games! I suggest you actually watch some german football before you take shite stats off the internet to say a player is shite! In terms of money i think i could name 100 players who have gone for more and being less players!

He didn't say the player was shite.

More questioning the 100k per week that he is rumoured to be getting.

[Feeno]

The Merse, on 08 March 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

He didn't say the player was shite.

More questioning the 100k per week that he is rumoured to be getting.

I think that might be a bit mischief making from the papers what with RVP and Walcotts contracts being up for renewal

[winningways]

Arsenal need to keep hold of RVP , not many replacements around for him.Fairly good signing all the same.

[Ribble]

Just find it strange when you compare the last striker to move from Germany to the Premiership

Pappis Demba Cisse, 26, goals last season 22, fee 10m*, wages 40-50k

Podolski, 26, goals last season 15, fee 10.7m, wages 100k

*in the january window where values are overstated

[Feeno]

Ribble, on 08 March 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Just find it strange when you compare the last striker to move from Germany to the Premiership

Pappis Demba Cisse, 26, goals last season 22, fee 10m*, wages 40-50k

Podolski, 26, goals last season 15, fee 10.7m, wages 100k

*in the january window where values are overstated

Podolski's contract only has a year to run or the fee would almost certainly be higher, still not convinced that'll be the wage, could be wrong tho!

I dont know when that Cisse fellie's contract would have been up too.

[Jona Weinhofen]

GD_JAMBO, on 08 March 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

But he wasn't a flop at bayern he was behind Toni and klose who were a brilliant partnership for bayern at the time, and he was only young. bayern wanted to keep podolski but he didn't want to stay.

I didn't say he was a flop, I said his move there was a total flop.

As I said, he is a good player but not a world class player. If he was, he would have got into the starting 11, even as a winger. RVP would get into that Bayern starting 11. Which as I have said, and shall restate, he is a good player but is not good enough for teams that are aspiring to challenge for the EPL, La Liga or Serie A.

Saying he isn't good enough to play ahead of Toni and Klose, is by definition, saying he is not world class.

Edited by taylor_1874, 08 March 2012 - 03:14 PM.

[andrew]

super_vlad, on 08 March 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

Let me guess you just had a look at Wikipedia didn't you?

Did you happened to miss his Germany record 43 goals in 95 games?

In his first season in the first division with Koln he scored 29 goals in 33 games! I suggest you actually watch some german football before you take shite stats off the internet to say a player is shite! In terms of money i think i could name 100 players who have gone for more and being less players!

I didn't say he was shite. I said he wasn't worth £100k a week and he won't score anywhere near the number of goals as RVP does for Arsenal.

I've also probably seen a lot more German football than most folk on here, one of my best mate has lived near Munich for the past 6 or 7 years and I go over there regularly to watch games (and guzzle the delicious weiB beer).

I'll take a wager on it if you're game? He won't score more than 30 goals next season (something RVP has already comfortably surpassed)?

[Feeno]

andrew, on 08 March 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

I didn't say he was shite. I said he wasn't worth £100k a week and he won't score anywhere near the number of goals as RVP does for Arsenal.

I've also probably seen a lot more German football than most folk on here, one of my best mate has lived near Munich for the past 6 or 7 years and I go over there regularly to watch games (and guzzle the delicious weiB beer).

I'll take a wager on it if you're game? He won't score more than 30 goals next season (something RVP has already comfortably surpassed)?

thats a kinda stacked bet, why not give the lad til the next again season to see where he gets to?? RVP has been at Arsenal for seven years and due to age and injuries this is the first time he has hit these kind of figures, to suggest Podolski will maybe not need time to adapt to English football and the way Arsenal want him to play is foolish

[super_vlad]

andrew, on 08 March 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

I didn't say he was shite. I said he wasn't worth £100k a week and he won't score anywhere near the number of goals as RVP does for Arsenal.

I've also probably seen a lot more German football than most folk on here, one of my best mate has lived near Munich for the past 6 or 7 years and I go over there regularly to watch games (and guzzle the delicious weiB beer).

I'll take a wager on it if you're game? He won't score more than 30 goals next season (something RVP has already comfortably surpassed)?

I see your point, but thats the EPL for u. Arsenal are desperate to re build and as a arsenal fan i'm sick of watching other players slip thru our fingers as we argue over 10k here or there.

How many strikers really in the EPL are going to score 30 goals next season? if he gets anything over 15 i think thats success, u can't compere him to RVP as he is just having a outstanding 18 months right now.

[Ribble]

Feeno, on 08 March 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Podolski's contract only has a year to run or the fee would almost certainly be higher, still not convinced that'll be the wage, could be wrong tho!

I dont know when that Cisse fellie's contract would have been up too.

Cisse would have had at least 18months left on his contract when Newcastle signed him, was only at Freiburg for 1 and a half seasons. Also sure he has outscored Podolski this year too!

[andrew]

super_vlad, on 08 March 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

I see your point, but thats the EPL for u. Arsenal are desperate to re build and as a arsenal fan i'm sick of watching other players slip thru our fingers as we argue over 10k here or there.

That seems to be the Arsenal way under Wenger mate.

Controversial, but I think they should try and re-sign Adebayor - he'd be the perfect player for the likes of Walcott, RVP and O-C to play off. If they want to start challenging at the top again they need to heavily invest in 3-4 top class players....if van Persie goes they're in big trouble IMO.

[GD_JAMBO]

taylor_1874, on 08 March 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:

I didn't say he was a flop, I said his move there was a total flop.

As I said, he is a good player but not a world class player. If he was, he would have got into the starting 11, even as a winger. RVP would get into that Bayern starting 11. Which as I have said, and shall restate, he is a good player but is
not good enough for teams that are aspiring to challenge for the EPL, La Liga or Serie A.

Saying he isn't good enough to play ahead of Toni and Klose, is by definition, saying he is not world class.

I very much doubt van Persie would get into the bayern team as a winger considering the two wingers are robben and ribery who fit the way bayern play fast attacking football. I didn't say he was world class I said he didn't flop klose was world class at the time he was there, and Toni complimented klose, asking podolski who was young at the time to go in in a keep 1 of them out is not very fair.


Podolski could easily play for a top team now that is challenging considering he has improved.

[Gigolo-Aunt]

Good player who has never made the most (so far) of what talents he has.    From listening to a piece of German football a while back, Podolski can be a bit hard to handle with his attitude.

Still, he is more mature now so this could be the time for him to show at a big league club what he has.   Something he failed to do with Bayern when he was there.

[Ross21]

andrew, on 08 March 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

A strange signing IMO.

He's the German version of David Healy - brilliant for the national team but distinctly average at club level. He was a total flop at Bayern.

This exactly for me. Like him, hope he does well but think he will struggle

[drumie jambo]

Arjen Robben next on hitlist apparently

[NatCurr]

I think this is a fantastic signing for them.

[Deans Jambo]

Not an Arsenal fan but would like to see them build a team around RVP. Maybe their about to loosen the purse strings a little.

[zorba74]

Anyone with a scoring record like that at international level cannot be a bad player

He will be one of the top players in the premiership and will be going straight into my fantasy football team

[Bert Le Clos]

Feeno, on 08 March 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Podolski's contract only has a year to run or the fee would almost certainly be higher, still not convinced that'll be the wage, could be wrong tho!

I dont know when that Cisse fellie's contract would have been up too.

Not saying he's not a good player, but your opinions on Arsenal or potential Arsenal players need to be toned down a notch.

Mind you told us Djorou was a quality player?

[Never Let Them Forget]

andrew, on 08 March 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

That seems to be the Arsenal way under Wenger mate.

Controversial, but I think they should try and re-sign Adebayor - he'd be the perfect player for the likes of Walcott, RVP and O-C to play off. If they want to start challenging at the top again they need to heavily invest in 3-4 top class players....if van Persie goes they're in big trouble IMO.

Why would they re-sign adebayor? Rvp is the best striker in the league and Arsenals formation they only play with the one up top and two wingers. He wouldnt get a game when rvp is fit and wouldn't be able to play on the wings.

I think its a brilliant move by Wenger

Podolski            Walcott/the Ox
            RVP

[BigZal]

Ramsay - Wilshere

Chamberlain - Podolski

RVP


that looks pretty good imo, its whats behind them that needs to be adressed

[super_vlad]

Kim Jong Il, on 08 March 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

Not saying he's not a good player, but your opinions on Arsenal or potential Arsenal players need to be toned down a notch.

Mind you told us Djorou was a quality player?

Tbf to Feeno he also said that  koscielny would come good, he has being outstanding recently as has Song. No one gets that all right!

[Feeno]

Kim Jong Il, on 08 March 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

Not saying he's not a good player, but your opinions on Arsenal or potential Arsenal players need to be toned down a notch.

Mind you told us Djorou was a quality player?

You just seem to talk utter ill informed keek where arsenal's concerned, don't ever try an tell me what to do, there's a good girl.

[Bert Le Clos]

Feeno, on 08 March 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

You just seem to talk utter ill informed keek where arsenal's concerned, don't ever try an tell me what to do, there's a good girl.

I give credit where credit's due. Hence me saying earlier on the thread I think Podolski is a good player and will be a good signing for Arsenal. I also praised Wenger's philosophy on football.

You on the other hand, I distinctly remember telling us this would be Arsenal's year, and that Djorou was a quality player.

First to spot the ill informed keek gets a sausage.

[Optimus Prime]

Lucas Podolski is a class act, he will score goals (David healey :-//////).

However he won't solve Arsenals main problem of being shit at the back and not having a ball winner in the middle of the pitch. Until Arsenal address this they'll continue to win the hole in the doughnut.

Regards
Optimus

[Feeno]

Kim Jong Il, on 08 March 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

I give credit where credit's due. Hence me saying earlier on the thread I think Podolski is a good player and will be a good signing for Arsenal. I also praised Wenger's philosophy on football.

You on the other hand, I distinctly remember telling us this would be Arsenal's year, and that Djorou was a quality player.

First to spot the ill informed keek gets a sausage.

Did I say quality player just day he wasnt horrendous as you were making out, i think its the later. I think it'll be arsenals year every year, if ye cant go into the season without hope what can you have, I also go into the season optimistic that it'll be our year also, thats just the kind of person I am.

I also distinctly remember saying if we kept fabregas and nasri we'd have had a shout but you just keep on picking and choosing what bits you remember.

[Bert Le Clos]

Feeno, on 09 March 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

Did I say quality player just day he wasnt horrendous as you were making out, i think its the later. I think it'll be arsenals year every year, if ye cant go into the season without hope what can you have, I also go into the season optimistic that it'll be our year also, thats just the kind of person I am.

I also distinctly remember saying if we kept fabregas and nasri we'd have had a shout but you just keep on picking and choosing what bits you remember.

But you were never going to keep Fabregas and Nasri, and that was the crux of my Wenger bashing! He goes on and on about potential, and people laud his youth policy, but the truth is the best players leave before they can fill their own or Arsenal's potential.

I've always said his footballing philosophy is tremendous, but it hasn't him a single piece of silverware in what will now be 7 (8?) years. So as much as I applaud it, it can't be claimed to be a success.

I will give you Alex Song by the way, he's turned into a right player. I thought he was just a midfield bully man but technically he's far better than I thought. Still prone to losing his man when tracking back because he switches off, but that will come with experience.

And your words regarding Djorou were either "quality player" or something along the lines of "potential to be/has all the attributes of a quality player". either way, it's a load of shite. Djorou is a bombscare of a player.

[Feeno]

Kim Jong Il, on 09 March 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

But you were never going to keep Fabregas and Nasri, and that was the crux of my Wenger bashing! He goes on and on about potential, and people laud his youth policy, but the truth is the best players leave before they can fill their own or Arsenal's potential.

I've always said his footballing philosophy is tremendous, but it hasn't him a single piece of silverware in what will now be 7 (8?) years. So as much as I applaud it, it can't be claimed to be a success.

I will give you Alex Song by the way, he's turned into a right player. I thought he was just a midfield bully man but technically he's far better than I thought. Still prone to losing his man when tracking back because he switches off, but that will come with experience.

And your words regarding Djorou were either "quality player" or something along the lines of "potential to be/has all the attributes of a quality player". either way, it's a load of shite. Djorou is a bombscare of a player.

haha bombscare, awrite bud. We'll see eh.